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« on: November 25, 2010, 08:08:59 am » |
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Hi What filters are the best for my 48IDA? I am useing the engine for steet. But I don´t what brand/type of filters that will be the best. So far I have only found K&N and Ramflo. I have two types of stacks. The original stacks and some who are wider, about 98mm outside at the top. But are there any filters that will fit wide stacks? I think the stacks are called "Pro-Stacks", but I am not sure. If anybody have some for sale, new or used at a good price, you are very welcome to let me know.  I have just read that some have tried that the foam-style filters, and that they were being suck in to cabs. So I could sound like that K&N style is the way to go. Anybody who have some other experiences? |
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« Last Edit: November 25, 2010, 08:43:59 am by Blob »
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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2010, 09:00:57 am » |
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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2010, 09:57:34 am » |
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Blob
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2010, 10:06:24 am » |
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Yes I know a lot of people are driving without, because they think it look´s cool. But I have decided that I want to run with filters. |
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Diederick/DVK
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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2010, 10:13:06 am » |
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i bought some filters a few years ago, from proformance i think it was.
don't have a pic though, but i know other people (e.g. Sarge) run/ran them too.
they're mesh with a rubber edge that slides onto the stack. no increase in height either.
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Blob
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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2010, 10:23:46 am » |
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i bought some filters a few years ago, from proformance i think it was.
don't have a pic though, but i know other people (e.g. Sarge) run/ran them too.
they're mesh with a rubber edge that slides onto the stack. no increase in height either.
But how good are the Mesh filters? I have never seen them in real life, but at the pictures it look´s like they will only remove "big" stones. How good are the filter funktion, when it is dusty? |
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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2010, 13:03:26 pm » |
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You´re talking about these... [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] I think they´re only good to keep birds and bees away from your motor.  |
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2010, 13:06:13 pm » |
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those are the ones, and it was shaun geers. guess that's what they'll be doing then |
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2010, 13:41:17 pm » |
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I've heard horror stories about 20% horsepower loss with the Geers type... Fairytales or fact?
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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2010, 14:20:52 pm » |
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I'm running Uni filters.  |
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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2010, 14:26:05 pm » |
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I've heard horror stories about 20% horsepower loss with the Geers type... Fairytales or fact?
no idea, but i can't see why they would? mesh filters are far less "distortive" than foam filters... |
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Blob
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« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2010, 14:37:12 pm » |
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You´re talking about these... [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] I think they´re only good to keep birds and bees away from your motor. Just my thought.. I have read somewhere that some have had problems with the foamtype, being sucked into the stacks. Any of you who have tried that? So there is 3 options: K&N, Foam-style and Mesh. |
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« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2010, 15:20:24 pm » |
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I have foamfilter, no problems at all and easy to remove when the engine bay is showed  |
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Blob
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« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2010, 15:21:44 pm » |
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« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2010, 15:27:02 pm » |
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I can´t open the link. Sure the link is right? [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] |
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« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2010, 17:04:33 pm » |
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Aircooled.net sells foamies with a inside spring installed so they won't get sucked in.
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« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2010, 19:02:55 pm » |
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Aircooled.net sells foamies with a inside spring installed so they won't get sucked in.
That's what i have. |
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Blob
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« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2010, 19:09:41 pm » |
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I have received some very interesting information about K&N and clones. http://shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=133791&p=1042182#p1042182I have never seen the mesh-style, only pictures, so I don´t know how good they are. I just think they look so coarse. So I think that i will use some foam filters. |
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« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2010, 19:14:39 pm » |
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I've heard horror stories about 20% horsepower loss with the Geers type... Fairytales or fact?
Geers claims dyno proven zero hp and flow loss. |
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« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2010, 21:17:49 pm » |
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I've heard horror stories about 20% horsepower loss with the Geers type... Fairytales or fact?
Geers claims dyno proven zero hp and flow loss. If one looks at the aerodynamical properties of a stack with and without the filter it seems incredible that there is no difference in air flow. But if it´s proven, it´s proven. |
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« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2010, 03:09:36 am » |
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Ummmm IDA's don't have filters.........
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« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2010, 17:26:41 pm » |
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Ummmm IDA's don't have filters.........
In certain off road classes/divisions, they do.
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« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2010, 19:15:05 pm » |
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i have this one and i thik that work good!  IDAs, Berg linkage, Bosch 010 and mechanical fuel pump... I like it. |
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« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2010, 19:30:02 pm » |
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VERY TNX.. and the A1 dynomax muffler? hihihihiihiih |
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« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2010, 21:33:58 pm » |
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VERY TNX.. and the A1 dynomax muffler? hihihihiihiih I went Berg with dual QPs |
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« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2010, 00:16:36 am » |
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Will these fit without decklid modifications? i.e. fully closed & no interference??? [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] |
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« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2010, 02:55:56 am » |
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Hello.
In general it is correct that those mesh filter on the stacks kill power. But I have also seen engines that absolutely did´nt care. Dont ask me why, because I dont know.
Foam filters definitely rob some power. Typically about 10 hp per 200 hp. When these filters are used, it is ESSENTIAL!!! that the engine gets dynoed/jetted WITH the filters or it WILL run rich.
With the K&N style filters there are normally not much of a difference with and without filters. Yes, the K&N style filters are not that good UNLESS you remember to oil the filter units. Then they increase efficiency by about 35% without sacrificing flow.
ACE´s filters are really good and does not rob much power if any.
In Blobs case I think the first question needs to be "how much room is there?" After that we/he can begin thinking of types of filters.
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« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2010, 04:40:58 am » |
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Ummmm IDA's don't have filters.........
In certain off road classes/divisions, they do.
Ha.... just being a butt |
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