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« on: December 05, 2012, 07:21:06 am »

VW needs more Cal-look pictures and stories posted!
The rest of the world needs to hear some of the stories swapped here.
Let's get some Gasser's and proper Looker's on there!

http://why.vw.com/stories


Carry on...
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2012, 07:32:51 am »

Will they sue me if I use the words Vee and Double-You in my stories?
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2012, 07:46:54 am »

They will.... Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2012, 08:24:23 am »

Okay, you can call me bitter but Volkswagen can break it off in its ass. It doesn't t give a plugged nickel about us but it wants to profit from our endearing stories? You do realize that any of the things we did to our cars would've constituted an instant warranty void, right? Volkswagen brass didn't want anything to do with enthusiasts then. Why do they want to be our friends now?

People and organizations vote with their money and even though Hot VWs paid Volkswagen so much lip service VWoA made its feelings pretty well known by rarely advertising. Ask any of the HVWs veterans. The magazine's ad schedule is pretty affordable. It's not as if Volkswagen would've had to bite hard. 

The company merely made another generic economy car. We made it special. But god forbid anyone use one of the endearing colloquial variations of the company's name that we consumers made up. Why would we want to give the company the time of day?

Do what you want but just understand that the brass really doesn't give a sh!t beyond making a buck offa your personal history and it'll never compensate you beyond stroking your ego.
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2012, 09:12:24 am »

Yeah, we're just one big happy family.....
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2012, 15:11:04 pm »

..and if that ^^^^ isn't a "Hot VWs Veteran", I don't know what is... Grin

BTW, Deano, Happy belated Birthday, hope it was a great one !!!
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2012, 15:22:56 pm »

I never thought about the fact that VWoA used the air cooled enthusiast to make money for themselves......It is true that VWoA never really payed us any attention or seemed to give much support to the air cooled VW for a long time. Why are they interested now? VW created a website for VW enthusiasts to post their pictures and stories. At least it exposes the new VW entusiast to what an old VW is all about by letting them read the stories and see pictures....
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2012, 15:36:19 pm »

Yes i agree also with the remarks......  but what about a different view

IF VW use our stories and pictures that encourage others to follow and take part in our dreams amd lifestyles, this will surely help all of us in the vaules of our cars and the parts/service suppliers as it will mean more buisness for them also, yes vw may use us but we can use them and i feel we all have more to gain that they will have....

After reading any old cal look story, it makes me want to but a bug, a set of 48's and some BRMs all of which VWoA dont sell !!! Grin yip the normall person might go thats cute, lets buy a rabbit but most people will say hey i want a bug.
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2012, 16:08:13 pm »

Volkswagen can break it off in its ass.


Thanks for saving me type a bunch of stuff Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2012, 18:04:17 pm »

Yes i agree also with the remarks......  but what about a different view

IF VW use our stories and pictures that encourage others to follow and take part in our dreams amd lifestyles, this will surely help all of us in the vaules of our cars and the parts/service suppliers as it will mean more buisness for them also, yes vw may use us but we can use them and i feel we all have more to gain that they will have....

After reading any old cal look story, it makes me want to but a bug, a set of 48's and some BRMs all of which VWoA dont sell !!! Grin yip the normall person might go thats cute, lets buy a rabbit but most people will say hey i want a bug.


Sorry Russell, working for a company that was hit by VWoA, they could care less about the Air Cooled seen...
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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2012, 19:56:47 pm »

Ten bucks says that people who buy brand new VWs don't give two sh*ts about old air-cooled historic cars.
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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2012, 20:11:09 pm »

I'm pleased to say that VW in the UK has a slightly different outlook. I, along with Ivan at VolksWorld, get invited to all the press launches of all new models. This year I was in Berlin, Rome and Sardinia, plus various regional UK launches. Press cars are always available whenever requested, they display at the VWorld Show, have a Beetle on the press service fleet of cars for any journalist to borrow, usually have an air-cooled car at most press launches, are more than helpful when it comes to any press access etc. If they get an enquiry about the historic side of VW, rather than turn people away, they put them on to me for information – TV, radio, mainstream press etc, all come my way through VW UK. Their representatives came to watch me drag race...  Cool

Clearly things are very different in the USA, but don't knock VW as a whole.
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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2012, 21:56:49 pm »

Okay, your ideas about writing change when people start paying you for your ideas and stories.

Everything that we write or say has some sort of tangible value. If it didn't we would just go into the woods and shout our ideas to the trees. Validation of that idea's futility is the observation that it wouldn't be worth it.

But worth what? We all write for some sort of personal gain. Keith, Stephan, Dean, and I all write primarily for money. But we also contribute to this forum even though we don't get paid with money. We get another type of payment from it: knowledge and a sense of kinship. Actually all of us who participate in a forum like this benefit in that way.

This forum rewards our contributions by facilitating an exchange that benefits all of us. A great example is the absolutely novice who joins to ask a question only to one day answer questions for the next generation of newbies. All of us benefit from these transactions. I came to this forum with decades of personal experience, volumes of literature, and acquaintances in the industry's highest places yet I still learn things. Keith, Stephan, and Dean would tell you the same thing. That's how we all benefit.

Now ask yourself, how is your contribution to Volkswagen's marketing narrative going to benefit you or us? Will it bring a bunch of new blood into our industry who will invest heavily in R&D, maintain the financial value of our cars, and participate in our forums? I think it's foolish to believe that.

No, Volkswagen's marketing specialists will use our collective social narrative to get people all gooey about the company's heritage. They'll say, "Look, just look how much people love the cars that Volkswagen builds. Wouldn't you like to be a part of that wonderful shared identity?" It's sort of like selling sex to get people to buy beer, only the sex is your stories and the beer is a new Golf. And you gave 'em the stories for free. 

Volkswagen's financial gain is the payment for your contribution. And Volkswagen will use that financial gain to pay attorneys to send cease-and-desist letters to small businesses because they have generic terms like vee and dub in their names. Well gosh, how can it do that? Oh yeah, Volkswagen used its prior financial gain to pay attorneys to copyright those terms. And what will you get? At best you'll pull up a web page so you can show your mom the neat story you wrote. The page will stand for as long as the marketing campaign lasts.

Quick, our 15 minutes of fame is fleeting!
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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2012, 22:38:36 pm »


Ten bucks says that people who buy brand new VWs don't give two sh*ts about old air-cooled historic cars.


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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2012, 01:42:50 am »

Yes i agree also with the remarks......  but what about a different view

IF VW use our stories and pictures that encourage others to follow and take part in our dreams amd lifestyles, this will surely help all of us in the vaules of our cars and the parts/service suppliers as it will mean more buisness for them also, yes vw may use us but we can use them and i feel we all have more to gain that they will have....

After reading any old cal look story, it makes me want to but a bug, a set of 48's and some BRMs all of which VWoA dont sell !!! Grin yip the normall person might go thats cute, lets buy a rabbit but most people will say hey i want a bug.


Sorry Russell, working for a company that was hit by VWoA, they could care less about the Air Cooled seen...


Dominick, Yes i understand and agree with the comments, but what i was trying to say was if VWoA used our stories to advertise this might encourage more NEW people to join in out hobby which may increase sales for the many many aftermarket VW supplers that we need to kepp our hobby alive, also it might help push the value of our cars up if more people want them.
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« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2012, 02:22:48 am »

Volkswagen can break it off in its ass.


Thanks for saving me type a bunch of stuff Smiley

Ditto!
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« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2012, 02:25:46 am »


Ten bucks says that people who buy brand new VWs don't give two sh*ts about old air-cooled historic cars.


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Of course there are a few who own old and new, but Ryan's bet is mostly accurate.
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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2012, 02:45:05 am »

Yes i agree also with the remarks......  but what about a different view

IF VW use our stories and pictures that encourage others to follow and take part in our dreams amd lifestyles, this will surely help all of us in the vaules of our cars and the parts/service suppliers as it will mean more buisness for them also, yes vw may use us but we can use them and i feel we all have more to gain that they will have....

After reading any old cal look story, it makes me want to but a bug, a set of 48's and some BRMs all of which VWoA dont sell !!! Grin yip the normall person might go thats cute, lets buy a rabbit but most people will say hey i want a bug.


Sorry Russell, working for a company that was hit by VWoA, they could care less about the Air Cooled seen...


Dominick, Yes i understand and agree with the comments, but what i was trying to say was if VWoA used our stories to advertise this might encourage more NEW people to join in out hobby which may increase sales for the many many aftermarket VW supplers that we need to kepp our hobby alive, also it might help push the value of our cars up if more people want them.

Slightly off topic, but whatever. I'm concerned about the future of this hobby. I'm betting that most of us got started when we were in our impressionable teens or twenties. When I was in high school (15ish years ago) there were countless ACVW's in the parking lot. And most were either lowered, had a set of wheels, or a hot motor, etc. Nowaday's, there MIGHT be ONE in your average high school parking lot. Back then (and prior) VW's were still cheap transportation, something that a kid making minimum wage could afford to buy and keep up. And have a lot of fun with his buddies in! Now in 2012? Fucking forget it! Decent project cars at an affordable price are few and far between, and the prices for quality parts are WAY up there. These days you're smarter to steer your high schooler towards a beater 25 year old Honda than a old VW. It's become a hobby for older guys who want to relive their youth and have a few bucks to throw around. New blood? I see very, very little of it. I feel lucky to be part of what I see as the last generation of kids to really enjoy old VW's for what they were.
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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2012, 03:53:57 am »

I'm pleased to say that VW in the UK has a slightly different outlook.

Clearly things are very different in the USA, but don't knock VW as a whole.

Same in Canada.  VWC and their dealers have certainly supported the ACVW hobby over the past 35 years that I've been involved, at least in the province where I live, plus a few other provinces that I've visited.

As for ACVW owners not buying new VW's, well, I own a 2002 Passat 1.8T and a 1999 Golf Wolfburg Edition, both purchased new from the dealer.  I used to own a 1980 Rabbit, which was sold (to fund another project), but I wish I still owned it!  They've all been great cars in their own way...but of course my '68 Beetle has a unique appeal Wink
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« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2012, 09:10:56 am »

I have 2010 Multivan, my Wife a 2010 Polo oh and i still have my 1960 Black Ragtop...VW's rule!!!

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« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2012, 20:39:57 pm »

I have 2010 Multivan, my Wife a 2010 Polo oh and i still have my 1960 Black Ragtop...VW's rule!!!

Frank
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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2012, 05:48:37 am »

Whatever is right....I got 37.4 MPG in my 2010 passat today and have gotten a best of 50.3 MPG in the 2012 diesel sportwagen both are an absolute joy to drive and the best built cars I've owned. I also kinda like aircooled VW's too...ha...to each there own.

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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2012, 10:51:11 am »

if there site is gonna be full with callook beetles,then they maybe gonna realise that it was important in the history of VW.
i never had anything else then VW myself,my first car was a MK 16v that was a fun car to start with.
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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2012, 16:01:23 pm »


Ten bucks says that people who buy brand new VWs don't give two sh*ts about old air-cooled historic cars.


 Shocked

Of course there are a few who own old and new, but Ryan's bet is mostly accurate.

I'll put $20 on the chance that either they or their parents or even grandparents had an air-cooled VW of some kind and can tell you a story ...  Wink

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« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2012, 18:42:02 pm »

I'm pleased to say that VW in the UK has a slightly different outlook. I, along with Ivan at VolksWorld, get invited to all the press launches of all new models. This year I was in Berlin, Rome and Sardinia, plus various regional UK launches. Press cars are always available whenever requested, they display at the VWorld Show, have a Beetle on the press service fleet of cars for any journalist to borrow, usually have an air-cooled car at most press launches, are more than helpful when it comes to any press access etc. If they get an enquiry about the historic side of VW, rather than turn people away, they put them on to me for information – TV, radio, mainstream press etc, all come my way through VW UK. Their representatives came to watch me drag race...  Cool

Clearly things are very different in the USA, but don't knock VW as a whole.


Keith, the next time your sitting around the campfire with VWoA singing “Kumbaya”, ask them why the went after just about every air-cooled parts supplier with their band of Lawyers… Still your friend buddy Grin
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« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2012, 19:19:06 pm »

Wonder if they're moderated? Might be worthwhile for people who got done over by VWoA to post their stories about having supported VW for years, developed parts, raced them, recommended them, etc, just to get threatened with legal action... Show the "caring" side of VWoA... Grin
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« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2012, 19:26:35 pm »

Wonder if they're moderated? Might be worthwhile for people who got done over by VWoA to post their stories about having supported VW for years, developed parts, raced them, recommended them, etc, just to get threatened with legal action... Show the "caring" side of VWoA... Grin


The most resent, Pierside Parts, formally VeeDub Parts Unlimited, ask Greg his story or maybe not, he's not a very happy camper right now!
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« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2012, 19:42:45 pm »

I have 2010 Multivan, my Wife a 2010 Polo oh and i still have my 1960 Black Ragtop...VW's rule!!!

Frank
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How come you don't remember it....;-) currently still in Hospital, can leave Tomorrow...!!!

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« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2012, 20:13:40 pm »

I'm pleased to say that VW in the UK has a slightly different outlook. I, along with Ivan at VolksWorld, get invited to all the press launches of all new models. This year I was in Berlin, Rome and Sardinia, plus various regional UK launches. Press cars are always available whenever requested, they display at the VWorld Show, have a Beetle on the press service fleet of cars for any journalist to borrow, usually have an air-cooled car at most press launches, are more than helpful when it comes to any press access etc. If they get an enquiry about the historic side of VW, rather than turn people away, they put them on to me for information – TV, radio, mainstream press etc, all come my way through VW UK. Their representatives came to watch me drag race...  Cool

Clearly things are very different in the USA, but don't knock VW as a whole.


Keith, the next time your sitting around the campfire with VWoA singing “Kumbaya”, ask them why the went after just about every air-cooled parts supplier with their band of Lawyers… Still your friend buddy Grin

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« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2012, 21:05:55 pm »

Volkswagen can break it off in its ass.


Thanks for saving me type a bunch of stuff Smiley

me three!!!!

Sorry I'm late to the party, been busy changing usernames, stationary, etc. etc.

My legal counsel advises me that this is not the proper venue for me to air any issues with VWOA,(a subsidiary of VWAG for those of you defending one or the other VW's thruout the world)  see me at EBI and I'll give you the whole story. Due to my health issue, I decided it was not the right time for this legal battle. I'm feeling much better now and will not roll over on something as completely bogus as this again.

p.s. My wifes 2010 touareg TDI was the biggest POS i ever owned, and I've owned a lot of POS's(that's plural). It spent more time under warranty than driving it, made em buy it back.

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