Hot rod drag week 2019, 2 x aircooled turbo VWs at least

[Steve D.]

Hey Steve,
Enjoyed watching your runs on the live stream (the second best to being there in person  ) and even Freiberger seems to have a soft spot for your car now.
Breaking the axles on the last day was truly a shitter. I had high expectations for the last day but I'm sure you'll be back at the track soon to get that 9 ;-)
What axles do you run to snap them? With Bus or 930 CV's? Did they break after the splined part? I guess it makes a lot of torque now.
Frank

Breaking the axles didn't really bother me.  These were bus cv joints and I honestly thought the breaking point would have been either the cv or the stock 8mm bolts.  The axles were 300M, but there's only so much you can do with those dimensions.

I went with type 2 cv joints when my goal was a high 11 aircooled streetcar, so they definitely passed expectations.  I know people have gone quicker/faster with type 2 cv's/axles, but with no clutch management and 5-600 passes on them I'm happy with what they did.

I'll post a picture once I get them all apart and cleaned up, but it looks like the first one snapped clean about an inch before the splines.  Once that broke, all the power went to the remaining axle and just wrenched it apart right at the splines.

[Gabetion2000]

Congrats steve and richie. You guys are bad asses. Have a good one.

[Andrew]

Upmost repect to you both, sorry to hear about the car, Ritchie, but, at the end of the day, the fact you're ok is the main thing.

[richie]

Thanks everyone

Small update

I have stripped most of the burnt stuff off now and it does look like I will be able to fix it all myself, main engine and gearbox are ok and body is not too distorted so like everything its now just down to time and money!!!

Hopefully it will all be done by next summer but will depend on how much time i can get in USA on it, i did consider shipping it home to repair but having 2 cars in uk to race already i really don't need another one right now & still have a desire to finish drag week in it.

[Richierich56]

Thanks everyone

Small update

I have stripped most of the burnt stuff off now and it does look like I will be able to fix it all myself, main engine and gearbox are ok and body is not too distorted so like everything its now just down to time and money!!!

Hopefully it will all be done by next summer but will depend on how much time i can get in USA on it, i did consider shipping it home to repair but having 2 cars in uk to race already i really don't need another one right now & still have a desire to finish drag week in it.

Great to hear the damage is repairable and hasn't taken out the motor and trans. Just have to go again next year!

[nicolas]

 still have a desire to finish drag week in it.

voilà! 

[Rocket Ron]

You deserve better luck considering the effort you’ve put in just to get to the start line. Here’s hoping you get to have another shot at it in the future. I’m sure I speak for a lot of us watching that I was shocked to see the damage to the car and can only imagine how you felt at the time.

Onwards and upwards 👍

Regards Ron

[Steve D.]

Got axles and cv's cleaned up.

Autopsy results are:

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THEY BROKE!

[richie]

You deserve better luck considering the effort you’ve put in just to get to the start line. Here’s hoping you get to have another shot at it in the future. I’m sure I speak for a lot of us watching that I was shocked to see the damage to the car and can only imagine how you felt at the time.

Onwards and upwards 👍

Regards Ron

Thanks Ron

[Eddie DVK]

I think it sounds cheesy and won't help licking any wounds, but getting there in a beetle 'is' an achievement on its own.

you have to look at what and where you come from. like I said before a street car with 500 hp in a beetle... you can count those on one or two hands worldwide... and the main reason you did this is to prove it can be street worthy and not be a trailerqueen with a license plate. nothing but respect from over here. weel done to both.

Well said… I agree totaly.
Best Luck next year guys.

[Frallan]

Got axles and cv's cleaned up.

Autopsy results are:

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THEY BROKE!

Interesting (sorry) but I have 300M axles and 28 splines 930 CV´s.
What diameter are those axles on the non-splined part?

[Steve D.]

Interesting (sorry) but I have 300M axles and 28 splines 930 CV´s.
What diameter are those axles on the non-splined part?

0.9640" or 24.5mm

What are those numbers on a 930 axle?

[Frallan]

Interesting (sorry) but I have 300M axles and 28 splines 930 CV´s.
What diameter are those axles on the non-splined part?

0.9640" or 24.5mm

What are those numbers on a 930 axle?

Sorry! Took a while for me to check them out. My 930 axles are 27.7 mm in diameter.  1.090"
I know the splines are 28 in number but I do not know the diameter around the splines. I do know it is larger and the splines do fade out in to the "open" and the smaller diameter of the non splined part. (27.7 mm). Just in same way as yours in the picture.

[PPRMicke]

Got axles and cv's cleaned up.

Autopsy results are:

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THEY BROKE!

EMPI ?

 For info If the material is chromed then it becomes brittle
Therefore all car manufacturers are painted to avoid this problem
/// Micke

[Steve D.]

EMPI ?

Not EMPI, not chrome.  These were 300M from TCS (90% sure).  They were more than adequate for what I was trying to do at the time which was to have a high 11 second street car.

[Frallan]

EMPI ?

Not EMPI, not chrome.  These were 300M from TCS (90% sure).  They were more than adequate for what I was trying to do at the time which was to have a high 11 second street car.

TCS!  Yes, here they are.  Mine are same. Very quick delivery for being a customized order. Nice company to work with.
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[PPRMicke]

the drive shaft at the bottom (empi) on the Swedish dive shaft      Material Orvar Supreme (uddeholm)

[Frallan]

Micke, what diameter and what CV´s?
What are the three on top?   (not my preferred way to have splines end up "inside" material.)

[cassa]

Orvar is the way to go! But not the spline/ diameter solution.

[PPRMicke]

Micke, what diameter and what CV´s?
What are the three on top?   (not my preferred way to have splines end up "inside" material.)

108 mm
My experience with promod drive shafts(V8) is made in the same way
If they are smaller then you get no flex in the shaft. Then they go off at the splinter or twist
What are the three on top?  It is my own that are made in Gothenburg  ( Aröds mekaniska )

/// Micke

[TexasTom]

GREAT THREAD!
Nice to see y'all living the dream ... Hell, I'd love to just be a spectator!
Thanks to both of y'all for representing ... Hate to hear of the breakages and damage but all-in-all I hope it was somehow worth it.
TxT

[gkeeton@zbzoom.net]

Steve, do you happen to have any specs., or build threads on your engine/transaxle from this years event? Thanks

[henk]

There was an article about the car in the last volksworld magazine.
You could see the specs and some evolution in there.

Henk!!!

[gkeeton@zbzoom.net]

Was this the November issue? It has an article listing of “Drag Beetle” on the upper cover corner, but nothing else. I guess I’ve gotten spoiled by reading Richie’s build threads. I live about 10 miles from the shop of former Drag Week competitor Jeff Lutz, so the local hot rodding scene has multiple entrants to the event every year. It would be great to learn about Steven’s car, for those thinking their 1915 with dual 40’s is going to run similar times and, for those with the actual means to build a similar vehicle to learn about the components that “lived”. We now know Type 2 TCS 300m axles with 600 passes won’t make the cut. 

[henk]

The autumn 2019 issue.
It had a blue karmann cabrio on the cover titled:dream ghia.

Tried to post pic. Off cover and the tech info but can not find anything good anymore to upload.

Henk!!!

[richie]

it was also in hotvws recently

[gkeeton@zbzoom.net]

it was also in hotvws recently

Thanks, but I no longer support Hot VW’s.

[henk]

Richie,
Did you start on your cabrio all ready? 

Henk!!!

[richie]

Richie,
Did you start on your cabrio all ready? 

Henk!!!

I only got a couple of days on it before i flew home so not really much done, I am slowly buying all the parts needed and hopefully will get a chance to go work on it April time

cheers Richie

[gkeeton@zbzoom.net]

After waiting, and waiting for my Volksworld back issue to arrive, I finally figured out I paid for the ONLINE access to the issue.....

There wasn’t any mention of the differential in Steve’s trans. Does anyone know if it was a spool, super diff, or a torque bias diff?