Paul Bate
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« on: July 10, 2019, 20:46:48 pm » |
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Well it was about time I started to put the orange ‘street beast’ back together.
So just checking over some tolerances!
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Real street since 1994 drive to the track race and drive home no bull !
11.49 Natually Aspirated 10.79 Nitrous
1960 lbs with driver!
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Chris bugster
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« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2019, 14:49:01 pm » |
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Great to see her still looking good after all these years. Wishing you new PBs.
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Neil Davies
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2019, 17:31:23 pm » |
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Superb. It's been far too long since I've seen this car thrashed down the strip!
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2007cc, 48IDFs, street car. 14.45@93 on pump fuel, treads, muffler and fanbelt. October 2017!
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henk
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2019, 20:37:15 pm » |
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Nitrous again,or other plans?
Henk!!!
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Paul Bate
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2019, 21:35:46 pm » |
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Great to see her still looking good after all these years. Wishing you new PBs.
Thanks Chris, hope you’re well mate 👍
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Real street since 1994 drive to the track race and drive home no bull !
11.49 Natually Aspirated 10.79 Nitrous
1960 lbs with driver!
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Paul Bate
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2019, 21:36:36 pm » |
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Superb. It's been far too long since I've seen this car thrashed down the strip!
Seems like a life time ago, thanks Neil 👍
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Real street since 1994 drive to the track race and drive home no bull !
11.49 Natually Aspirated 10.79 Nitrous
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Paul Bate
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2019, 21:38:03 pm » |
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Nitrous again,or other plans?
Henk!!!
Hello Henk, yep still going to run the blue bottle but I have some developments that I need to test/confirm 😉
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Real street since 1994 drive to the track race and drive home no bull !
11.49 Natually Aspirated 10.79 Nitrous
1960 lbs with driver!
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BeetleBug
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2019, 09:31:37 am » |
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Hi Paul,
I’m so happy to see your updates here on The Lounge! Many many years ago you convinced me to go nitrous and once you have started with supercharging there is no turning back.
So will you use a nitrous controller again? Starting with a modest shot of the line and gradually increasing the amount of gas and fuel during the run?
Looking forward more updates!
Best rgs BB aka Kalle
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Paul Bate
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2019, 17:37:15 pm » |
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Hi Paul,
I’m so happy to see your updates here on The Lounge! Many many years ago you convinced me to go nitrous and once you have started with supercharging there is no turning back.
So will you use a nitrous controller again? Starting with a modest shot of the line and gradually increasing the amount of gas and fuel during the run?
Looking forward more updates!
Best rgs BB aka Kalle
Hello Kalle, Glad you liked my way of thinking 😂 yes I’ll still be running the controller. But I want to get a lot more street driving done, I’ve really missed driving about!! All the best Paul
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11.49 Natually Aspirated 10.79 Nitrous
1960 lbs with driver!
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Paul Bate
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2019, 17:42:01 pm » |
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Heads all cc’d !!
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11.49 Natually Aspirated 10.79 Nitrous
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BeetleBug
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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2019, 08:55:24 am » |
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I hope it is OK that I share my nitrous dyno graph with you and the rest of the guys. 2332, CB Comp E by Jeff Denham, FK47 cam, 51 IDA’s.
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After this I started having issues with my clutch. I did not use any sealer between the wedgemated flywheel and the crank so tiny amount of oil leaked through. It was sounding really fresh on nitrous and my initial plan was to gradually increase the nitrous up to 150 - 200 hp. Today I would have used injection and let the ECU do all the needed adjustments.
After this I invite Richie with friends to our summer cottage and that was that... turbo ever after.
-BB-
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Paul Bate
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« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2019, 21:07:13 pm » |
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Hello Kalle,
Nice, how much nitrous were you running?
Kind regards
Paul
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Real street since 1994 drive to the track race and drive home no bull !
11.49 Natually Aspirated 10.79 Nitrous
1960 lbs with driver!
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BeetleBug
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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2019, 09:03:35 am » |
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Calculated approx 75hp. I used a single jet system with a distribution fitting for both the fuel and the nitrous. Two crappy quality Holley pumps with a dedicated pump for the nitrous system including a in-line Hobbs switch.
If I was to build a new nitrous engine I would just use a dry shot and let the ECU add the needed fuel and remove timing.
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Paul Bate
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« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2019, 20:17:55 pm » |
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Hello Kalle,
Must say I also use two Holley pumps which have been ok so far!
Paul
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Real street since 1994 drive to the track race and drive home no bull !
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Cornpanzer
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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2019, 02:09:06 am » |
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Very cool!
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Paul Bate
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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2019, 19:12:52 pm » |
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Very cool!
Thanks Dave, I hope you’re well more coming soon
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Paul Bate
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« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2019, 22:12:49 pm » |
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Camshaft arrived today from the maestro himself JMP Sweden. Absolutely quality parts!
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Real street since 1994 drive to the track race and drive home no bull !
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« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2019, 09:54:44 am » |
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Which one from JPM did you end up with?
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"...these cars were preferred by the racers because the strut front suspension results in far superior handling than the regular torsion bar front end..." - Keith Seume. 10.58 @ 130 mph (2/9/2022 Santa Pod)
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Paul Bate
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« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2019, 17:38:08 pm » |
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Which one from JPM did you end up with?
I’ve done some developments on the heads and sent the flow numbers to Johannes. He has kindly done a one off grind to match the requirements 👍
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Paul Bate
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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2019, 09:45:44 am » |
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Final trail assembly setting end float and checking valve to piston. Now to send off for balancing!
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Real street since 1994 drive to the track race and drive home no bull !
11.49 Natually Aspirated 10.79 Nitrous
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jay c
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« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2019, 13:17:12 pm » |
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Who do you use for your balancing Paul?
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Paul Bate
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« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2019, 20:38:12 pm » |
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Hello Jay,
I hope you’re well mate.
I use a place in Surrey called Roland Allsop Engineering.
Paul
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Real street since 1994 drive to the track race and drive home no bull !
11.49 Natually Aspirated 10.79 Nitrous
1960 lbs with driver!
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jay c
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« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2019, 20:57:01 pm » |
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Thanks Paul. Yeah not doing too bad mate. Quite difficult finding a good machinist and balancer that is trustworthy to do a good job. Glad you’re getting the car back out there
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Paul Bate
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« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2019, 21:30:26 pm » |
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Glad to hear it Jay,
Yes it’s hard to find good companies!
Must say I’m looking forward to getting it back on the road!
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Real street since 1994 drive to the track race and drive home no bull !
11.49 Natually Aspirated 10.79 Nitrous
1960 lbs with driver!
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Paul Bate
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« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2019, 01:15:01 am » |
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Final assemble now done and now in the car. [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] should be back on the road tomorrow 👍
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« Last Edit: September 12, 2019, 01:17:08 am by Paul Bate »
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Real street since 1994 drive to the track race and drive home no bull !
11.49 Natually Aspirated 10.79 Nitrous
1960 lbs with driver!
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Paul Bate
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« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2019, 07:22:00 am » |
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Yesterday took the car out on the street for its first outing after building the new 2332cc engine.
Brand new bottom end after a bugpack flanged crank failure. New Scat 84mm installed being a much better quality.
A little 80 mile round trip dropping off parts to Mr Phil of the West & Mr John Brewster of JB’s Elite fabrication.
She ran beautifully, video on Instagram flatfourperformance_vw [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ]
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« Last Edit: September 14, 2019, 07:27:28 am by Paul Bate »
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Real street since 1994 drive to the track race and drive home no bull !
11.49 Natually Aspirated 10.79 Nitrous
1960 lbs with driver!
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« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2019, 13:30:58 pm » |
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Love this car, Very influential to me. I'd love to see how the rear bodywork attaches to the car.
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My real name is Anthony Consorte.
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Paul Bate
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« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2019, 19:17:08 pm » |
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Love this car, Very influential to me. I'd love to see how the rear bodywork attaches to the car.
Hello Anthony, I hope you’re well mate. Kind words thank you 👍 There’s a plate welded to the inside of the bodywork. Which has holes with 4 nuts welded to the inside. Then you can slip the back end of and bolt together. Makes it a dream to work on 👍 All the best Paul[attachment=1 [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ]
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Real street since 1994 drive to the track race and drive home no bull !
11.49 Natually Aspirated 10.79 Nitrous
1960 lbs with driver!
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Eddie DVK
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« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2019, 07:45:33 am » |
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Final assemble now done and now in the car. [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] should be back on the road tomorrow 👍
Paul, for what do you use the full trottle switch placed on your manifold? Looks intresting Regards Edgar
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Regards Edgar
" Type 4, it is a completely different engine. You have to drive one to understand! "
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Paul Bate
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« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2019, 22:15:20 pm » |
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Final assemble now done and now in the car. [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] should be back on the road tomorrow 👍
Paul, for what do you use the full trottle switch placed on your manifold? Looks intresting Regards Edgar Hello Edgar, It’s for nitrous activation at full throttle 👍
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Real street since 1994 drive to the track race and drive home no bull !
11.49 Natually Aspirated 10.79 Nitrous
1960 lbs with driver!
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