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Glauco
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« on: August 16, 2019, 12:02:12 pm »

Ok,

So I've made the first 1000km's in the karmann and I just can't get used of how the Gene Berg shifter sits in the karmann. It's just to far to reach third gear, so I'm on the look for alternatives..
I love the look of the empi/flat4 eliminator shifter, but I understand they're not the best choice. I also love the Hurst shifters, they seem to be good.
Or maybe a newer shifter like a high-tech or csp, but I would like to keep it more or less period correct...

What would be a good shifter for a karmann?

Glauco
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Flc
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2019, 14:49:36 pm »

I'd say the Hurst, I've had various copy, empi/jsc and they have all been exceptionally good and easy to reach
I'm currently looking to try the empi billet shifter , heard good things about them,  but keeping the jsc Hurst copy just in case
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Sam K
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2019, 16:21:02 pm »

If I remember right, you can order a berg shifter with an extra curve.
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andrewlandon67
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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2019, 18:16:47 pm »

Ok,

So I've made the first 1000km's in the karmann and I just can't get used of how the Gene Berg shifter sits in the karmann. It's just to far to reach third gear, so I'm on the look for alternatives..
I love the look of the empi/flat4 eliminator shifter, but I understand they're not the best choice. I also love the Hurst shifters, they seem to be good.
Or maybe a newer shifter like a high-tech or csp, but I would like to keep it more or less period correct...

What would be a good shifter for a karmann?

Glauco

By high-tech, do you mean Bug Tech like they sell on the Hayburner website? I've thought about going to one of those too, but the money's a bit too much, plus I'm pretty happy with my traditional Berg shifter.
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Glauco
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2019, 19:10:53 pm »

Ok,

So I've made the first 1000km's in the karmann and I just can't get used of how the Gene Berg shifter sits in the karmann. It's just to far to reach third gear, so I'm on the look for alternatives..
I love the look of the empi/flat4 eliminator shifter, but I understand they're not the best choice. I also love the Hurst shifters, they seem to be good.
Or maybe a newer shifter like a high-tech or csp, but I would like to keep it more or less period correct...

What would be a good shifter for a karmann?

Glauco

By high-tech, do you mean Bug Tech like they sell on the Hayburner website? I've thought about going to one of those too, but the money's a bit too much, plus I'm pretty happy with my traditional Berg shifter.

Haha, bug-tech indeed. Damn autocorrect!  Lips Sealed
Indeed, the money is too much...
I really love how my gene Berg shifter shifts, it just sits to far away from me.
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andrewlandon67
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2019, 20:07:39 pm »

Ok,

So I've made the first 1000km's in the karmann and I just can't get used of how the Gene Berg shifter sits in the karmann. It's just to far to reach third gear, so I'm on the look for alternatives..
I love the look of the empi/flat4 eliminator shifter, but I understand they're not the best choice. I also love the Hurst shifters, they seem to be good.
Or maybe a newer shifter like a high-tech or csp, but I would like to keep it more or less period correct...

What would be a good shifter for a karmann?

Glauco

By high-tech, do you mean Bug Tech like they sell on the Hayburner website? I've thought about going to one of those too, but the money's a bit too much, plus I'm pretty happy with my traditional Berg shifter.

Haha, bug-tech indeed. Damn autocorrect!  Lips Sealed
Indeed, the money is too much...
I really love how my gene Berg shifter shifts, it just sits to far away from me.


That's fair, I always feel weird shifting in a Ghia, it's so far away and you sit so much lower than in a Bug. I'd say you should ask your VW compatriots if they have any shifters you could try out in your car for a day or two, maybe something a little more left-field than just a Hurst or Berg might suit you better.
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Neil Davies
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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2019, 10:46:10 am »

Depends how tall you are - I'm 1.75m but I've got short legs so I didn't find the shifter a stretch in my '71 Ghia. It was a Bugpack copy of a Berg one, but later (' 68-on) cars had the shifter further back anyway. I've got a Scat Dragfast in my Beetle and I really don't like it but I can't find my Berg one...
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Glauco
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2019, 12:12:36 pm »

Depends how tall you are - I'm 1.75m but I've got short legs so I didn't find the shifter a stretch in my '71 Ghia. It was a Bugpack copy of a Berg one, but later (' 68-on) cars had the shifter further back anyway. I've got a Scat Dragfast in my Beetle and I really don't like it but I can't find my Berg one...

I'm 1.78, so not bigger than you. It's not that I have to crawl out of my seat to reach third, but it sits 5cm to far away from me to shift comfortably.. the problem was indeed solved on the later chassis.
I'm leaning towards the Hurts for now, they should be a better fit for the karmann. Or a newer 14" Berg..
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« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2019, 12:25:08 pm »

Depends how tall you are - I'm 1.75m but I've got short legs so I didn't find the shifter a stretch in my '71 Ghia. It was a Bugpack copy of a Berg one, but later (' 68-on) cars had the shifter further back anyway. I've got a Scat Dragfast in my Beetle and I really don't like it but I can't find my Berg one...

I'm 1.78, so not bigger than you. It's not that I have to crawl out of my seat to reach third, but it sits 5cm to far away from me to shift comfortably.. the problem was indeed solved on the later chassis.
I'm leaning towards the Hurts for now, they should be a better fit for the karmann. Or a newer 14" Berg..

I like my hurst... the curved one sits right where I want it to. the berg angled but short throw also works... for cruising and ease the hurst is best of what I have used. the berg will be better in a 'race-mode' car.
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Bryan67
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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2019, 16:54:13 pm »

Try a Berg 6710EB. It`s a 10" shifter with extra bend it.
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cel
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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2019, 19:51:22 pm »

Hi!

I think im gonna change my 60% short handle berg for the same reasons (i need to lean to much forwards to shift)

Some time ago i found these shifters:

https://www.vw-bus-beetle-shop.com/pages/leviers-vitesses-pour-coccinelle-et-derives.html

They look good quality and are quite cheap compared to the bug-tec shifter.

Does somebody have one of these installed in their bug?

regards
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Glauco
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« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2019, 12:37:19 pm »

Hi!

I think im gonna change my 60% short handle berg for the same reasons (i need to lean to much forwards to shift)

Some time ago i found these shifters:

https://www.vw-bus-beetle-shop.com/pages/leviers-vitesses-pour-coccinelle-et-derives.html

They look good quality and are quite cheap compared to the bug-tec shifter.

Does somebody have one of these installed in their bug?

regards

Never seen this before, but they appear to be good. Maybe you should give it a try and let us know how good it is   Grin
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Glauco
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« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2019, 12:39:15 pm »

Try a Berg 6710EB. It`s a 10" shifter with extra bend it.
That could be a good option, thank you!
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cel
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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2019, 14:29:30 pm »

Hi!

I think im gonna change my 60% short handle berg for the same reasons (i need to lean to much forwards to shift)

Some time ago i found these shifters:

https://www.vw-bus-beetle-shop.com/pages/leviers-vitesses-pour-coccinelle-et-derives.html

They look good quality and are quite cheap compared to the bug-tec shifter.

Does somebody have one of these installed in their bug?

regards

Never seen this before, but they appear to be good. Maybe you should give it a try and let us know how good it is   Grin


 Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Glauco
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« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2019, 15:43:02 pm »

I ended up buying a Hurst shifter because I got a good deal on when and i had the opportunity to sell the Berg tons friend.
So I can't wait to get the shofter and give it a try..  Grin

Glauco
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Baz54
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« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2019, 18:14:20 pm »

Hi, I know I'm a bit late but I had the same problem on my bug,I just couldn't get on with the T shift of the Berg.
I went for the Vintage Speed traditional shifter with the bend like a 64 and I find it really good.
Paul
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Glauco
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« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2019, 18:53:42 pm »

Hi, I know I'm a bit late but I had the same problem on my bug,I just couldn't get on with the T shift of the Berg.
I went for the Vintage Speed traditional shifter with the bend like a 64 and I find it really good.
Paul
Those look pretty cool. Might have been an option as well. Do they have a reduced thuis?
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vwhelmot
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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2019, 20:43:50 pm »

Relocate the shifter 2.5 inches back and fit a CAE shifter. Better than any Berg or similar gearstick.
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