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Elnef
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« Reply #420 on: April 18, 2016, 09:36:57 am »

Thanks

But boat anchor sound more like you  Tongue


 Shocked  That's so harsh, I feel I have got a certain reputation here Cry   



I can't help it if some people like to recycle old junk from the bottom of the sea   Shocked Grin




cheers Richie 

It was the word boat anchor that sound more like a word you will use when you write van engine I start to think richie who
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Elnef
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« Reply #421 on: April 18, 2016, 10:58:30 am »

A little front upgrade for saturdays test race  Wink
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« Reply #422 on: April 24, 2016, 13:39:02 pm »

Was out testing yesterday first run 7,3 little problem with carbs easy fix next 3 run 7,0 163km/t but bad 60ft 1,6 something to work with but last run I made a big bummer got it in first not third after second gear so now my box is locked in firstgear and the case got a big crack in the side hmm
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« Reply #423 on: April 24, 2016, 13:41:34 pm »

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« Reply #424 on: April 24, 2016, 13:56:37 pm »

Was out testing yesterday first run 7,3 little problem with carbs easy fix next 3 run 7,0 163km/t but bad 60ft 1,6 something to work with but last run I made a big bummer got it in first not third after second gear so now my box is locked in firstgear and the case got a big crack in the side hmm


You don't have much luck do you Sad
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« Reply #425 on: April 24, 2016, 15:01:33 pm »

No but engine sound great  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #426 on: April 24, 2016, 18:24:50 pm »

its even bleeding! Sad
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Elnef
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« Reply #427 on: April 25, 2016, 05:16:45 am »

Case and R/P gone so far
I will have a look at the engine to because it rev a lot of rpm when I hit first
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« Reply #428 on: April 25, 2016, 17:25:39 pm »

 Sad  But a gearbox can get repaird - good luck with the engine

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« Reply #429 on: April 25, 2016, 22:45:39 pm »

Clutch management next Elnef. You need it with your kind of HP if you want to improve your 60ft and save your gearbox.

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« Reply #430 on: April 26, 2016, 05:20:01 am »

Clutch management next Elnef. You need it with your kind of HP if you want to improve your 60ft and save your gearbox.

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Yes I know and have it in my car but it seems I still got other problems before I get to use it or learn to use it
(It was in my car when I bought it from us and one of few thing that Works from overthere  Wink Wink )

Udo do you have something special in your mind to look at on engine ?
I think valvespring pushrod maybe valve hit piston etc
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« Reply #431 on: April 26, 2016, 06:14:05 am »

Yes I know and have it in my car but it seems I still got other problems before I get to use it or learn to use it
(It was in my car when I bought it from us and one of few thing that Works from overthere  Wink Wink )

So you already have a hydraulic clutch system in your with a solenoid, needle valve and a trigger switch mounted nearby the gearshifter?

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« Reply #432 on: April 26, 2016, 06:23:17 am »

Yes
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Elnef
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« Reply #433 on: April 26, 2016, 07:02:53 am »

As you can see to much power used to go up insted of going forward 😉
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« Reply #434 on: April 26, 2016, 07:10:37 am »

As you can see to much power used to go up insted of going forward 😉

Indeed. It looks really cool but it is not very efficient... Just ask Richie  Cheesy Add more slip and you can reduce the launch rpm, improve your 60ft and save your gearbox.

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« Reply #435 on: April 26, 2016, 08:21:08 am »

As you can see to much power used to go up insted of going forward 😉



Indeed. It looks really cool but it is not very efficient... Just ask Richie  Cheesy -BB-



What do you expect if you put a bloody great anchor at the back, that's not a wheelie that's just sitting still  Shocked Cheesy Grin 

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« Reply #436 on: April 26, 2016, 08:58:31 am »

As you can see to much power used to go up insted of going forward 😉



Indeed. It looks really cool but it is not very efficient... Just ask Richie  Cheesy -BB-



What do you expect if you put a bloody great anchor at the back, that's not a wheelie that's just sitting still  Shocked Cheesy Grin 

cheers Richie

At least it does not have turbo or nos 😍😍😍
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« Reply #437 on: April 26, 2016, 09:22:31 am »




At least it does not have turbo or nos   go fast😍😍😍




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« Reply #438 on: April 26, 2016, 10:17:58 am »




At least it does not have turbo or nos   go fast😍😍😍




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Go fast no no no then I will just start breaking parts 😉
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« Reply #439 on: April 27, 2016, 19:13:24 pm »

2 bar less comp on one cyl hmm back to start 👎
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« Reply #440 on: April 27, 2016, 19:36:29 pm »

Elnef
Try a little oil in the cilinders
Do dertemite if its the valves or rings
2 bar is relative
Wat is the max in bar ?
The cil /pistons are cold now
Maby better do a blowby test then
Good luck
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« Reply #441 on: April 27, 2016, 19:42:54 pm »

Yes engine is cold
I have just run it with starter low rpm 6 bar on 3 cyl 4 bar on the last one
I think its a lot in % 1/3 less
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« Reply #442 on: April 27, 2016, 20:21:59 pm »

Get a leakdown done. You can determine easier what you have to deal with
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« Reply #443 on: April 27, 2016, 20:49:43 pm »

John,

Regarding your over rev. , what did your memory on the tachometer say?
I suggest you:
Do a leak down test (NO compression test! If the valves are f-d, they gone be even worse. Compression test gives nothing comparing to leak down test, ever(!))
As the indication is with the compression test, now: Take of the heads and check the valves (and pistons for marks).
Check your connecting rods and journals.
"Been there/done that": 14k on the tachometer, made the rods kiss the ruff in the block (3 rods, journals, valves, seats, push rods, 1 piston and liner).
To much money to play around with. I would check everything down to the rod journals.
 
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« Reply #444 on: April 28, 2016, 06:27:55 am »

Mr Herrlander is unusually outspoken for being a Swede and I have to say I agree Smiley Do a leak down and you will know a lot more.

Keep fighting it Elnef and you will win!

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« Reply #445 on: April 28, 2016, 09:56:12 am »

Thanks for youre input and comments
I will do a leak down test next week
After that I really dont know what I will do
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« Reply #446 on: April 28, 2016, 10:31:06 am »

After that I really dont know what I will do

The leak test will tell you what to do next together with your actual RPMS. If the leak test shows that your intake valve is leaking and you where below, let say 9000 rpms, I would replace the bent valve and that's it.

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« Reply #447 on: April 28, 2016, 17:56:11 pm »

After that I really dont know what I will do

The leak test will tell you what to do next together with your actual RPMS. If the leak test shows that your intake valve is leaking and you where below, let say 9000 rpms, I would replace the bent valve and that's it.

-BB-

Yes engine is pretty "simple" now but I was thinking more in the future about racing go on or not
I have no memory on tach I shift around 8000 but I think engine came way over 10000rpm when I hit first
Like Mats wrote I am not wearing golden pants ;-)
I am not crying just thinking loud ;-)
I was out first time 97 bug run so its not easy to let racing go
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« Reply #448 on: April 28, 2016, 19:16:36 pm »

After that I really dont know what I will do

The leak test will tell you what to do next together with your actual RPMS. If the leak test shows that your intake valve is leaking and you where below, let say 9000 rpms, I would replace the bent valve and that's it.

-BB-

Yes engine is pretty "simple" now but I was thinking more in the future about racing go on or not
I have no memory on tach but I think I was way over 10000rpm when I hit first
Like Mats wrote I am not wearing golden pants ;-)
I am not crying just thinking loud ;-)
I was out first time 97 bug run so its not easy to let racing go


Take your time, let inspiration come back to you, you know it will some day.. You fought worse things than this John Wink
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« Reply #449 on: April 28, 2016, 21:28:29 pm »

John,
Your never gone "get rid of the oil", once a racer always a racer. Forget it: Your addicted!
It will come back, sooner or later ...

You say more than 10k rpm(?): you must check your valves, heads, seats... and probably you need 8 new springs. Springs don't like over rev. and must be checked.
Even though your leak down shows that your valves are tight, I had not relied on this.
If I'm not mistaken, you run K800 valve springs (?). With such a spring pressure, the valve remains sealed, even if it's bent.
I would definitely pull of the heads. (..and the liners, pistons and connecting rods, to check the journals).

Regarding the trany: get in contact and I'm sure we can work something out.
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