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Chris W
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« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2009, 22:10:58 pm »

Well there are Michelin 145's on there now and I like the look with my 205/70 truck tires  Wink . I don't plan on cutting on my mag gasburners anytime soon.  Cheesy
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« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2009, 00:26:52 am »

Where did you get that "formula"?

If you want a base line of where to start, look at what the car makers put on cars.  VW installed 155s on 4" and 4½" wheels.  Same wheels got 165s too.  The rare stock 5½" VW wheels got 175s.  If you research a 2CV, you will find it's wheels are probably 3" or 3½" wide to use 135s.  According to the car makers, a 4" wheel is too wide for a 135 tire.

Mexican Beetles had 4½" wheels.  Never a 5½.

It's not a formula, just my "rule of thumb". A 4 1/2" wheel is actually 5 1/2" when measured from lip to lip, therefore I believe you should have a tire on there that is at least 5 1/2" wide (5 1/2"=139.7mm, round up to 145).

When I lay my 145's on my 4 1/2" wheels flat on the ground, the tire touches first, not the rim (but just bearly). That's the way a tire should fit, IMO.
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« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2009, 00:41:50 am »

I have 135s on my Flat 4 BRM, 5,5 inch? And I think it looks good Tongue.

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« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2009, 00:45:20 am »

FF BRM's are 5", like the originals.
FF also has them in 6 1/2"

MWS offers them in 4 1/2", and 5 1/2" (correct me on this if I'm wrong)
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« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2009, 15:30:56 pm »

You're not wrong Zach Smiley

I believe Mexi Bugs came stock with 155's on a 5 1/2", and the tire fits just about flush with the rim. You at least want a tire that is about 20mm larger than the width of the rim- so 4.5" wheel = 114.3mm + 20mm = 134.3, or a 135 tire.
Where did you get that "formula"?

If you want a base line of where to start, look at what the car makers put on cars.  VW installed 155s on 4" and 4½" wheels.  Same wheels got 165s too.  The rare stock 5½" VW wheels got 175s.  If you research a 2CV, you will find it's wheels are probably 3" or 3½" wide to use 135s.  According to the car makers, a 4" wheel is too wide for a 135 tire.

Mexican Beetles had 4½" wheels.  Never a 5½.

Chris, send your wheels out and get them chopped down to 4½"!  That solves everything.

Mexican Beetles indeed had 4,5 not 5,5 rims. That doesn't change the fact that 155s work much better on a 5,5 than on 4,5. Indeed VW did use very narrow rims, with the following results: <a href="http://video.google.co.uk/googleplayer.swf?docId=640695539059738855" target="_blank">http://video.google.co.uk/googleplayer.swf?docId=640695539059738855</a> Wink

I remember times when i played with little Fiats and a popular, tried combo was a 135/70-13 tire and a 5,5 inch wide rim. We wanted to have a good handling without using wide tires - the engine was week.

I'm talking about handling not the looks - the latter is subjective.

BTW - those Fiats had 135-12 tire and a 4x12 rim from factory, so I don't think car makers consider 4" wheel is too wide for a 135 tire. Wink
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