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Title: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: 71CALRIPPER on February 12, 2010, 08:59:56 am
Right then after being a wheel perv through out my vw hobby life, I have only really regreted selling one set of wheels. 4.5 and Deep 6  Fuchs.

But why whats all the fuss about?

14s arnt considered a good wheel choice because i am guessing the tyre choice...

But what is it with the early sets ? Are they more in keeping with the cal look scene due to the age, or is it something else. Prices have shot up and getting a set is getting to be a rather exspensive game.

Looking at rims for my new 67 and i was thinking of Early 7s with 5.5 rims for the front...

Just looking for peoples thoughts on this cold wet friday morning in the uk :)

Rob



Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: roland on February 12, 2010, 09:08:06 am
One of the most beautiful rim design ever, i'd say..  :)


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: Luftkraft on February 12, 2010, 09:23:15 am
From Porsche
Unique Design
Cool Looks
High Functionality
Super Sexy


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: 67worshipper on February 12, 2010, 09:24:14 am
the fuchs seem to go with every colour looker you see them on.the early rim has more rounded spokes if you get a set side by side with the later ones.


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: 67worshipper on February 12, 2010, 09:27:16 am
From Porsche
Unique Design
Cool Looks
High Functionality
Super Sexy
;)


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: 71CALRIPPER on February 12, 2010, 09:32:41 am
But now with the SSP and Flat 4 repros being refinnished to near perfect, has this pushed the price up of real sets or just made it easier to get the best look on a budget.

Lets not even talk about the MWS Fuchs i think they are good for one thing !!


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: Dez on February 12, 2010, 11:22:40 am
What about trying the new Flat4 BRMs??


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: richie on February 12, 2010, 15:12:36 pm
You seem to be forgetting the fact that early 911 prices have gone nuts,therefore the wheel prices have gone up accordingly,that and the 911s historic rallying who regularly damage wheels means the demand outways the availability so they fetch a premium price.

Fake wheel = Fake car

cheers richie,uk


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: ian c on February 12, 2010, 17:10:53 pm
But why whats all the fuss about?




i tghink its because thyey are a quality forged wheel , relatively lightweight , a piece of automotive history , and a timeless design .
the problem is ... they look good on any car . (even porsche put a version on the "sport classic" 997 last year , see pic below)
from a pristine stocker , to a barely legal rust bucket , so everybody wants them .
the good thing to come out of this is that there is a far greater demand for them , which makes repops a viable option for the companies willing to produce them .
the 67-only 4.5" are the lightest of the lot , so make an obvious choice for the front . unfortunately the look of them compared to a larger version on the rear appeals to our cousins who run narrowed beams and ass-scraping rears . this pushed the prices up even more .

i think 5.5 and 6 are the best street combo .

(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x216/iancross182/jaguar%20xj8/sportclassic.jpg)
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x216/iancross182/jaguar%20xj8/sportclassic2.jpg)
(http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x216/iancross182/jaguar%20xj8/sportclassic3.jpg)



Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: Rocket Ron on February 12, 2010, 17:58:04 pm
If I were you I'd get something else, everyone has Fuchs  ;D :P


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: bugnut68 on February 13, 2010, 04:19:40 am
I'm not really a fan of the 911 Fuchs just because it will prompt people to say "Hey, you's got one of them Porsche engines in there too?" ;D  I like the chromed 356 rims on early cars, and the 2.0 liter 914 rims, but I'm just not really into the Porsche look as a whole... simply because of the aforementioned reference, lol.  Not that I hate Fuchs, by any stretch, just not a huge fan.


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: ESH on February 13, 2010, 12:09:35 pm
I'm not a fan, over engineered and a timeless design, what's to like?  ???  :P


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: Jon on February 13, 2010, 13:56:32 pm
Whats all the fuss is about?  Have you seen it? Felt the weight and the connection to Porsches racing pedigree ::) :) ;D ;D


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: 71CALRIPPER on February 13, 2010, 15:55:55 pm
Whats all the fuss is about?  Have you seen it? Felt the weight and the connection to Porsches racing pedigree ::) :) ;D ;D

Oh i know why but just wondering other peoples thoughts.

Rob


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: Dan Mazur on February 13, 2010, 16:55:52 pm
It's the design that most complements the shape of any car. Straight lines and soft curves.

Twenty six years ago, I bought my first set out of the trunk of a friend's car. (His car wasn't a Porshce.)

Back then there were lots of vintage or I might say current Porsches on the streets. Think about it, what Porsche owner would gladly sell his alloys to a kid with a VW for $450.00?

The other day, I ran into a neighbor who restores early 911's and 912's. He's looking for period-correct Fuchs Alloys and he mentioned a lot of early Porsche owner/restorers are doing the same. Now there's competition between Porsche owners and Cal-look VW enthusiasts.

That's why you've got the fuss and high prices for original wheels.


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: danny gabbard on February 13, 2010, 17:30:35 pm
Nothing's changed in 30 years, They where lots of money then and lots of money now! And they are strong and eye pleaseing , plus you can fold one like a taco and fix it like nothing ever happen'd. What more do you want


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: ian c on February 13, 2010, 18:03:17 pm
the design reminds me of the toy cars i had as a kid ;)


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: javabug on February 13, 2010, 18:17:52 pm
I'm glad to have gotten my set when I did.  If I ever have to give these up, it will be a sad day because I am quite sure I'll NEVER be able to get another set.


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: nicolas on February 13, 2010, 18:34:21 pm
all has been said. the only ones i don't care about is 4.5's they don't look as good as 5.5's to me.


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: Rennsurfer on February 13, 2010, 18:43:44 pm
the design reminds me of the toy cars i had as a kid ;)

Besides the fact that they're forged... the reason that you stated has always done it for me. Ever since I saw my first set on a white brand new '67 white 911, they've always reminded me of Hot Wheels cars that I had back then.


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: BeetleBug on February 13, 2010, 18:46:08 pm
Tired looking Fuchs for a tired looking car. And they are narrowed and welded too;



Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: ian c on February 13, 2010, 18:50:08 pm
the design reminds me of the toy cars i had as a kid ;)

Besides the fact that they're forged... the reason that you stated has always done it for me. Ever since I saw my first set on a white brand new '67 white 911, they've always reminded me of Hot Wheels cars that I had back then.

yeah .
we need to get a set on your blue car to see what they'd look like .
you comfortable with that ??
 ;)


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: Jon on February 13, 2010, 19:25:47 pm
the only ones i don't care about is 4.5's
X2  :)
I bought some back when they became hot (9 years ago) but I have decided to never sell or fit them to a VW...


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: Rennsurfer on February 13, 2010, 19:29:32 pm
Beetlebug... very interesting concept. Narrowed? COOL, to what width? Also, is that a common tire, up front? I like the way it looks.

Ian, if I ever got a hold of a set of 911 alloys (Fuchs) wheels for my blue car... it would piss off everyone. 'Cause they'd look so far removed from anything that any Cal Look VW has had. It's probably best that I keep my 356 style wheels. But if anyone is willing to donate a set of 5.5" cheap... don't be shy.

 ;D


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: BeetleBug on February 13, 2010, 19:35:09 pm
Beetlebug... very interesting concept. Narrowed? COOL, to what width? Also, is that a common tire, up front? I like the way it looks.

 ;D


Narrowed to 4,5" and the tires are Vredestein Sprint Classics. Old school looks with modern material classified to 135 mph. Full height 155/15 so they will follow the fender quite nicely and also provide enough grip to make use of the disc brakes. AND they are also available in 205/70-15.

Best rgs
BB


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: LuftsickTero on February 13, 2010, 19:44:58 pm
I'm not really a fan of the 911 Fuchs just because it will prompt people to say "Hey, you's got one of them Porsche engines in there too?" ;D 

That's why I bought a set of JGE center caps without any logos. Somebody, a non-VW person, asked "do you think it's Porsche now as the wheels say Porsche".


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: bugnut68 on February 13, 2010, 20:39:05 pm
I'm not really a fan of the 911 Fuchs just because it will prompt people to say "Hey, you's got one of them Porsche engines in there too?" ;D 

That's why I bought a set of JGE center caps without any logos. Somebody, a non-VW person, asked "do you think it's Porsche now as the wheels say Porsche".

Lol, that's exactly what I'm trying to avoid. 


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: Pas on February 13, 2010, 22:49:48 pm
From Porsche
Unique Design
Cool Looks
High Functionality
Super Sexy

D.I.S.C.O  ;D


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: Rennsurfer on February 13, 2010, 23:11:17 pm
Narrowed to 4,5" and the tires are Vredestein Sprint Classics. Old school looks with modern material classified to 135 mph. Full height 155/15 so they will follow the fender quite nicely and also provide enough grip to make use of the disc brakes. AND they are also available in 205/70-15.

Best rgs
BB

VERY VERY cool. Thanks for the explanation, too. How nice to have matching tires in this day and age. Reminds me of how it used to be.


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: ian c on February 14, 2010, 00:15:26 am
Ian, if I ever got a hold of a set of 911 alloys (Fuchs) wheels for my blue car... it would piss off everyone. 'Cause they'd look so far removed from anything that any Cal Look VW has had. It's probably best that I keep my 356 style wheels.

mark ,
you even saying that isn't very cal-look .
i take away half of your fancy bold lettering as punishment .


 ;D



Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: Jon on February 14, 2010, 00:55:22 am
Ian C, I think what Fred would do to them is what makes them "not cal-look", or am I reading you wrong Fred?


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: ian c on February 14, 2010, 01:04:25 am
we was being sarcastic buddy  ;)

this is califuckinfornia ... do whatever you want .


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: lawrence on February 14, 2010, 01:55:03 am
Beetlebug... very interesting concept. Narrowed? COOL, to what width? Also, is that a common tire, up front? I like the way it looks.

 ;D


Narrowed to 4,5" and the tires are Vredestein Sprint Classics. Old school looks with modern material classified to 135 mph. Full height 155/15 so they will follow the fender quite nicely and also provide enough grip to make use of the disc brakes. AND they are also available in 205/70-15.

Best rgs
BB

Well done, BeetleBug. I really like the look of 155s on the front of a slightly lowered beetle. If I were to run a set of alloys they would be 5.5", anodized like the factory did them,  and my choice of tires would be 155s and 185/70s.


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: Bruce on February 14, 2010, 05:06:45 am
I'm not really a fan of the 911 Fuchs just because it will prompt people to say "Hey, you's got one of them Porsche engines in there too?" ;D 

That's why I bought a set of JGE center caps without any logos. Somebody, a non-VW person, asked "do you think it's Porsche now as the wheels say Porsche".

Lol, that's exactly what I'm trying to avoid. 
So you build your car based on what other people think?


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: nicolas on February 14, 2010, 08:25:29 am
Narrowed to 4,5" and the tires are Vredestein Sprint Classics. Old school looks with modern material classified to 135 mph. Full height 155/15 so they will follow the fender quite nicely and also provide enough grip to make use of the disc brakes. AND they are also available in 205/70-15.

Best rgs
BB

VERY VERY cool. Thanks for the explanation, too. How nice to have matching tires in this day and age. Reminds me of how it used to be.

and they exist in 185/70 as well. so that is ever cooler if you don't have 200hp on tap.  ;) and they look great as well


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: Rennsurfer on February 14, 2010, 17:42:38 pm
Ian, if I ever got a hold of a set of 911 alloys (Fuchs) wheels for my blue car... it would piss off everyone. 'Cause they'd look so far removed from anything that any Cal Look VW has had. It's probably best that I keep my 356 style wheels.

mark ,
you even saying that isn't very cal-look .
i take away half of your fancy bold lettering as punishment .

HAHA!! Ian, you rock. Don't ever change.

Ian C, I think what Fred would do to them is what makes them "not cal-look", or am I reading you wrong Fred?

 ;D

Well, let's just say that they'd be fully devoid of anything shiny.


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: Jon on February 14, 2010, 22:48:44 pm
They look great in bead blasted finish to... or brushed... do it, do it! ;)


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: Rocket-Racing on February 14, 2010, 23:02:28 pm
Beetlebugs front wheels are the ones they should have made.. 5,5's narrowed on the inside to make 4,5's that don't have the (in my opinion) weird look of the originals were the center is on its way out of the rim. Thumbs up!


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: Bruce on February 15, 2010, 02:23:18 am
They look great in bead blasted finish to... or brushed... do it, do it! ;)
That's right, they do.  I acquired a pair of deep 6s that the PO had bead blasted to bare.  Stir in some brake dust to darken them, they look just like MAG!


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: Bruce on February 15, 2010, 02:25:36 am
Beetlebugs front wheels are the ones they should have made.. 5,5's narrowed on the inside to make 4,5's that don't have the (in my opinion) weird look of the originals were the center is on its way out of the rim.
His wheels started out as a late flat 6" wheel.
Chopping a 5½" wheel is not so easy  The drop center isn't a constant diameter, so if you took an inch out, the two pieces don't line up.


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: Brother Lovedub on February 15, 2010, 12:07:09 pm
Shiny for me  ;)

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff116/stevieharkins/IMG_2519.jpg)


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: 71CALRIPPER on February 15, 2010, 18:40:32 pm
Shiny for me  ;)

(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff116/stevieharkins/IMG_2519.jpg)

5.5 ? Very nice


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: Diederick/DVK on February 15, 2010, 18:51:21 pm
that's a late 6x15


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: Brother Lovedub on February 15, 2010, 21:51:46 pm
that's a late 6x15

Yup, that's right. 6"s all round.


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: bugnut68 on February 16, 2010, 00:16:31 am
I'm not really a fan of the 911 Fuchs just because it will prompt people to say "Hey, you's got one of them Porsche engines in there too?" ;D 

That's why I bought a set of JGE center caps without any logos. Somebody, a non-VW person, asked "do you think it's Porsche now as the wheels say Porsche".

Lol, that's exactly what I'm trying to avoid. 


So you build your car based on what other people think?
I was mostly being facetious, Bruce, though in all honesty the 911 wheel is just not my taste.  The 914 2.0 liter I dig more stylistically as well as on the basis that the 914 is closer to a Bug or other air-cooled VW in spirit than a 911 Porsche.  It's all a matter of personal tastes, though.  I just think the 911 wheel looks out of place on a VW, but that's just me.


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: Black Sheep on February 16, 2010, 10:14:37 am
  I just think the 911 wheel looks out of place on a VW, but that's just me.
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wash your mouth out  :o


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: Jon on February 16, 2010, 11:16:05 am
but that's just me.

That's probably accurate... ;) ;D ;D


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: nigelg65 on February 16, 2010, 13:40:54 pm
Blimey I've had my 4.5s and deeps 6s up for sale for a while. I might have to rethink this now and squirrel them away in the shed because, as someone else said on this thread, I might never be able to get another set again.

www.type-magazine.com


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: bugnut68 on February 16, 2010, 19:32:06 pm
but that's just me.

That's probably accurate... ;) ;D ;D

I know I'll get backlash for this, lol, but it's simply my opinion.  I like the other Porsche wheels, just not the 911 Fuchs.  We all know what they say about opinions, so I'll just leave it at that. ;D  We can all agree to disagree, right?


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: MacRavens on February 16, 2010, 21:56:40 pm
I know I'll get backlash for this, lol, but it's simply my opinion.  I like the other Porsche wheels, just not the 911 Fuchs.  We all know what they say about opinions, so I'll just leave it at that. ;D  We can all agree to disagree, right?

Not at all !
What happiness ! It's really great to hear that there is people who doesnt like Fuch at all !
It's very good for the rating of cookies ! It is time to buy them they are really cheap for Porsche rims !
And for your wallet, what a joy it must be to not love Fuch !
By cons, at a meeting or reading magazines, it must be quite difficult to live because there are fuch everywhere ! :)

It is for me the most beautiful rims design from Porsche.
Somehow, this is already drawing on ancient drums vw...
As nose down gives the speed when the VW is parked.
When Deep Fuch have chosen your car like the glass shoe chooses Cinderella, your VW is based on over 40 years of performance history !
In addition to being well designed and attractive, these wheels give the mythical performance spirit from a Porsche to your car.
And, if you polish them, they gives you some great Californian fresh air.  8)
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hé hé, what a nice example  ;D


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: Zach Gomulka on February 17, 2010, 01:05:04 am
Ryan, you're nuckin' futs :)


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: bugnut68 on February 17, 2010, 01:24:18 am
Ryan, you're nuckin' futs :)

I'm the wet blanket that has to throw the candy bar into the swimming pool, just for kicks...Caddyshack style. ;D

Naw, I don't hate Fuchs by any stretch, just not my favorite.  However, I do like other Porsche wheels.  Affordability isn't much of a factor as right now I can't afford even a set of chromies ;D


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: mg on February 17, 2010, 05:49:12 am
Harvey Weidman is a good resoruce for restoring and to narrow or widen most any rim.
Fuchs make up most of his work.

Weidmans Wheels
OROVILLE, CA
Phone: 530-534-7903

Ignore the width, check out the process and finish.
These rims had the offset changed an inch and new outer lips installed.
Harvey calls this his RSR finish.


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: azteca on May 14, 2010, 20:34:39 pm
Greetings from Mexico. 16".... 7" on Front & 8" on Rear
(http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y348/jaherrera72/bug.jpg)


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: kustomlarry on May 14, 2010, 20:59:24 pm
They are so beautiful. I received my first set of 4.5s and 5.5 chromed, polished and detailed by Alex Magro yesterday....Totally pimpin. Even my girl said WOW. She usually reserves that for later.... ;).

I have cookies on my Notch, They will give way to Fuches until they are polished again.

After that, the fuches will go on my 67 vert chassis when it is ready....TOOOO HOT.


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: tomi g on May 14, 2010, 22:17:49 pm
I have these 4,5s for many years in my garage. Maybe keeping them for future projects? Fantastic design, I don't think[attachment=1][attachment=2] fake ones can be compared to the originals.


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: Sam K on May 15, 2010, 00:26:39 am
The main reason that I bought my fuchs was that I wanted front disc brakes on my '67 and at the time (1999) the only wide 5 disc brake kits available were from Neal or CNC. I didn't think my car would look right with any 4 lug wheels either, so it was actually cheaper to buy a set of fuchs and use redrilled vw brakes! I love my fuchs, though and they will probably be on the car forever.


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: bugnut68 on May 15, 2010, 01:18:46 am
Greetings from Mexico. 16".... 7" on Front & 8" on Rear
(http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y348/jaherrera72/bug.jpg)

Wow, love the car!  I have to say I do think those wheels look mighty good on there... perhaps my tastes are changing (and before anyone can beat me to it, I'll say it: for the better.) ;D


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: mg on May 15, 2010, 02:27:01 am
all pollished, kinda 80s right?  ;)
Fuchs are worthy of detail.


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: TexasTom on May 15, 2010, 02:55:47 am
I just like 'em ... those Fuchs ....  ;)


Title: Re: Whats all the fuss about.... FUCHS
Post by: thejohn66 on May 15, 2010, 09:28:53 am
I've borrowed a set of early fuchs whilst I detail a set of gas burners (bought from Rocket Ron) earlier this year. They suit the car really well and it will pain me to give them back but they are so expensive these days! I think the gas burners will look equally as nice mind due. The fuchs is a timeless wheel! The offset also makes them sit really well on a bug.
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