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This Is my Favorite Cal Look Wheel its a 15x 5 1/2 Magnesium American Racing 5 Spokes

Heres My Second Choice Cal Look Wheel 15x5  Magnesium EMPI BRM 5 Lug Wheel  He has the O.G. One in his Hands LOL

And Heres My Third Choice Original 15 inch EMPI 8 Spokes

They might not be original BRM's but I'm working on them so that that they look as close as possible like the real Thing...

They got Acid dipped, they will be repolished, machined to accept Original BRM Inserts, and then repainted...

The Picture with the Firestone is a before Picture...

Frank

here are mine.......genuine empi 5 spokes.....

(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c260/jick-r/IM000362.jpg)
and these too
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c260/jick-r/b19a54ba.jpg)


do erco's count?   ;D

We already have a cal look wheel thread- but I guess there is no harm in another ;)

I like these....original empi 5's in porsche pattern...porsche pattern just to be different ;D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v715/spennyp/Picture294.jpg[img])

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v715/spennyp/Picture200.jpg[img])

I really agree with Shubee,
mine aren't originals but I like'm anyway!

(http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/dwl-n.jpg)

I like classic Fuchs-rims.....

(http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/thumbs/dwl-o.jpg) (http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/dwl-o-jpg.html)

but also Rivieras....

(http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/thumbs/dwl-m.jpg) (http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/dwl-m-jpg.html)

but my first choice are Centerlines....(on my new projekt)

I like Fuchs too.  :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/SanchoPancho/General/Fooks.jpg)

Thanks, Jim. I own my car since 1989, that photo was taken 2 years ago with bumpers......

I bought these wheels 12 years ago. BRM were too expensive even at this time. I didn't care because I wanted RADER wheels.
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/herrvee/my-old-school/DSC00205.jpg)

here are mine.......genuine sprintstars.....
2 x 4" for the front ;-) and 2 x 5.5"

(http://vw.zona13.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1520&g2_serialNumber=1&g2_GALLERYSID=6ce0103317b5a8d96bcdc593b3df6eb4)

by TD

Here's a pair of my crestline wheels, been running them on my car for a couple of years now. They will be put into storage for next season though...

hey rune -tell us why you're putting them away? they look so so right on that brown oval of yours!

Just feel it's time for some other wheels, that's all  ;)

So tell us which ones, Rune! ???

here's mine after 15 hours of HAND polishing - Thats per wheel by the way  ;D ;D ;D

here's mine  : empi 8 & 5 spokes and  crestlines & flat4 brm's ;D

Just out of interest does anyone know if Cal Parts came in anything wider than 6 inch  ??? ??? ???

I've only heard about 6's. I had a set of cal parts before I got the crestlines. The crestlines are allso 6"

I was thinking a while back about having a pair widened  :o I know Dave Conklin had a set of original rims narrowed, Does anyone know any more info on doing this  ???

Cant imagine it to be a problem to have a pair widend on the backside. Personally I would like to have a little less offset on my front wheels, so I would be able to run them on a stock width beam.. But I think the design of the spokes would make this difficult

OFFSET - we tried fitting my Cal Parts on the back of my friends 63 the other day and they stuck out about 1.5 inches  :o ok they do have 225/70's on them  :D

You could have the fronts narrowed and the rears widened... When the wheel shop cuts the rims in half they can offset the cut then switch the backsides of the rims. So from four 6" wheels, you could have one pair 5", and one pair 7" ;D

A friend have found a pair of original widened 4 bolts wheels. It seems to be 6" wide. Theyre are stamps "Lemmertz" and VW. More info? It was optional of standard for some models?

Here are my wheels:

Empi Spider 8 spokes in need of restoration...

and erco in 6 x 15 and 5 x 15

Not so old school ::)

Well, since I'm no good at keeping secrets. And with most of the norwegian cal look guys having found out about it allready.. (2+2=4 right JHU?  ;) )

Where can you find the American Racing re-pops?

 

JAVA sells them.

JGE sell them ;)
Moulded from an original, they don't fit on a disc brake setup with out a lot of work but IMHO look rather good!!!!
Got them on my crew cab :)

And last week I've just brought in another set of spyder mag  ::)

CONGRATS RUNE! ok now i can understand why you're switching  ;) :D

Hey Rune,
congrats - now I can understand why you want to have some other rims on your already great oval! ;)
BTW: have you already found a dual quite for your car?
Bye,
Tobi

rune , thoz BRM's are fingerlickin!

Hmmmm

Rune... you realy did go for the flat four wheels.. they look nice..

give me a call and il come help you drill holes to screw the slicks


Alien

He came out of the closet!!  ;D
Congratulations Rune....   now crank out the welder!!  ::)  Ovals are everywhere!

Haha, funny ;)

Agree with you JHU, but I am really looking for a 67 at the moment..

 (http://www.keversite.nl/fotoalbum/fotos/45212.jpg)

Hey....... they look good Jordy...what color are you gonna make the insite...

Kind regards Edgar

Your wheel looks good Jordy ;)

I am sitting as we speak frantically tryin to polish my fuchs, only prob is I have 4 5.5s, 4 deep 6s a pair of 7s and a pair of 4.5s to do :'(, I have managed 1 so far :D, will post some pics in 2009 at this rate

 Thanks Eddie! I'm still deciding what colour to paint the centers. It's hard to choose a nice colour for "spoke rims" for a red car.
 Most of the red cars have "dish rims" with the center painted black and some chrome highlights... 


 Yes Thanks for the effort you put into it to make it shine like it does now... :) :)
 I still can't believe it took you only 30 minutes to get this result with the wheel with the deepest scratches...  :o 8)

Jordy, i'm telling you... gun grey is the way to go!!  8)
Please don't go black or anthracite, pick a grey colour of your liking...

 Like this one? I personally don't like this colour very much as combination with red...

  (these are thin lip rims btw)
 (http://www.restowagenuk.com/gallery/albums/UK-Restos/PICT0512.jpg)

suits the colour nicely, but i wouldn't polish the centers...
does anyone have a pic of gun grey wheels?

turtle?

Thats the car I told you. I think that is the perfect combination.. ::)

ok here is mine... on my car...

and here is the new Alien bug wheels.......

Why are there thick Spacers between the Drum and the Wheel??

 i did not like the look of the car.. the wheels disappeared under the fenders.. no good idea.... the car went scearry to drive..

so they are going away for the next race..


Alien

on my barndoor i will use this wheels

the old set used on Alien bug.. did not get lisens with the front runners on...

american racing front runners..

and crestline? they have alu senter and face, the rest is steel.. anyone nows anything about them?

cool wheels guys, Alien (Anders?) you have a pm.

Si.

These are not Crestlines Anders...

 ;) from the past at gardenmoen in 76  ;D ;D

Those were the days!!  ;D

I belive that the steel-backed five spokes were made by "Rocket Wheels" but I am not 100% sure.

If you look at the wheels on Teros wheel site, fundamentally, Ets, cal parts, Rockets and Crestlines are all very similar. The way to tell the difference between them is the width of the actual rims compared to the spokes. From the pictures on Teros site, the closest wheel to Aliens is the Rocket. As you look straight on, there is an outer rim, and an inner rim and all these wheels have different widths to these rims, but the Rocket is closest.

Rocket Racing on here not surprisingly has a set of these on his car, he would be able to tell easily! Anders, where are you?

Si.

Don't think these are Rockets either.. Rocket wheels don't have round spokes, they have a sharper edge on the spokes.

looks like ET's no?

Ets definately do have a ridge or line down the middle of each spoke!

Si.

The ETs have round spokes, like the crestlines. Allso the ETs are all aluminium..

those are mine (ex Anders)

The top spoke on that ET kind of looks like there is a line in the middle, but they definitely look rounded apart from that. I think on some of these wheels there are unoffical mark 1, 2 or 3 versions which differ slightly?

PS, turtle, did you get my pm on the tach?

Si.

thanks guys...

same as allways... a lot of guessing, but no body seems to know...
personaly i think they look klose to crestlines. but with steel rim... but im really not shure...
its a bit fun, to have something that nowone kan thell  what is...............

i try to get some more pic later on....


Alien

i also have a set of appliance...

I still dont have a car for this ones....

these wheels ill use for my 70`s custom bug...  all are 7"x15"... porsche bolt pattern...

anyone making an stutt bee replica, before the roof chop? then these wheels wil fitt right on....

A couple of americans.

My good friend Rob from east coast manx has a set of 4 steel backed 5 spokes (non matching as 2 have a lip and 2 don't ) and we have always believed that these were ET's  :-\ ???

What do you guys think  ???

I'd love to have a pair of those american torque thrust wheels? Does any one have a spare set?  ;)

I was very close to having a pair shipped over from the US 2 years ago. It was a set of 6" for the rear and narrowed 4.5" for up front.
Should fit my 67 like a &***%$# glove  ;D

 ;) ::)

the last set in wide5 pattern I heard of for sale were going for $4000.00  :o :o :o

The last set of wide 5 mag Americans that I know of sold for just about double that $4000 figure...I sold a set in late '89 w/ fresh paint & polish & a new set of tires for $700. Times have changed a bit.

Last nice set I heard of Went For $8000.00 They Are Neat Wheels they are one of my favorities

People With That many Americans should be Shot LOL  Damm Wish I Had All Those Americans

Arrrgghhh.  With all the magnesium Americans I have owned, I have never even seen a VW pattern.  Nice find!  :o

bill or rick can you remember this car ???

i was after a set of chevy patterns, aren't those still produced? (of course they won't be as nice as those in upper row on that pic)  ;)

Yes they are, but they dont look just like the originals and the offset is all wrong for our application.

Not to get off Track but Heres a set of Real American Torq Thrust D!'s these were made for the 66/67 Corvettes with Disc Brakes that I have on my 67 Chevy II heres a picture being loaded in the trailer for its trip to Texas

Shubee...nice wheels and car, I too have a set of 14x6 torque thrust "D" spokes for my nova. What size are yours?..Jim

YOu guys might want this for reference.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&viewitem=&item=190079069559&rd=1&rd=1

(http://i5.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/89/07/1fe3_1.JPG)

Jim If yours are 14x6 they are the new style Torq Thrust D's The Only early D's they made were 15x6 and 15x7 mine are 15x6 chevy in the front and 15x7 porsche in the rear that were redrilled to chevy pattern if the wheel dose not have the "D" on the Back There the later Style Wheels

Personally I Dont Like the 4 Lug BRM's What are you putting them on?

hi I would like to ask you what do you think about those 4 lug (black) repo BRM? cuz I'm stil wondering what shoud I put on my 69 bug those BRMs or black/polished 2 litre porsche repos? have you got any pix of bugs on those 4 spoke BRMs
Thanks
GreenTom.

Here's my old school wheels.... 4.5" Deano Dyno-Soars fronts on Smart Car tires, and 6" DDS rears, on M&H DOTs.

the 4-lug BRMs really look strange to me. If it has to be 4-lug :-) I would choose the porsche repros or 4-lug sprint-stars.

I'm putting them on 69 schpare kafer (don't have bloody idea how does it spel) "he" has 4 lug drums (discs when I'll put the wheels on)

(http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/9072/reco0010bw9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

it how he was looking before I went to uk...

i had this dilemma too... it can be quite difficult to find nice 4 lug wheels that look appropriate.
i chose these KronPrinZ as i found them for cheap and fixed them up all the way:
(http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=839.0;id=2530;image)

but there are a few other good choices around.

... I have to chose between 4 BRMs and 2 litre Porche cuz I like them the most od the 4 lug rims... all pix of those wo kinds wheels woud be nice :)
sorry for going offtopc :)

choose the 2.0 liter fuschs in black & polish  ,it's look better than the 4 lug brm's ( those aren't made in past for the vw  ,only for the austin mini ) ::)

You mean those:
(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7199/2litremws1gp1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

youp that is my secound choice and probably that are the wheels my bug will stand on...

do you have ane pix of bugs on thse wheels?
Thanx

there are lots of cool 4-lug wheels, my favourites being Sprintstars, but you have also the already mentioned 2.0 Fuchs, plus Pedrinis, Mahles, Rivieras...


BTW I think it's spelled Sparkäfer  ;)

THE coolest of all four lug wheels is still unmentioned, the favorit from back in the day, the Empi Spyder mag!

yeah but with all the replicas around nobody cares you have real ones  ;D


(just joking!)

I hope you are  :-X

The replicas only look the same on the move...! The early replicas might have been closer in design... the spyder looks like tiger claws gripping the hub, while the replicas of today looks just like a bunch of fat sausages!  ::)

The 4 lug brms were originally designed for mini's before the VW's, but they were 13" diameter.  I don't like them either.

I see your office is still as tidy as ever!  ;D

i second that,followed by sprintstars for me

(http://mk1-performance-conversions.co.uk/images/spd_front.jpg)

You can get original 4-lug Fuchs quite cheap, in many cases even cheaper than the set of new repros, so no point of buying the repro in the picture.

If I would be buying wheels for late model and wouldn't like to spend a lot of money I would go for 911 numbered 5-lug Fuchs, even they're missing the look of earlies they would be still original.

>OLD SCHOOL CAL LOOK WHEELS lets see yours?

Earlies and Gas Burners at the moment..
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/tero.j.virta/images/2006_WCAMeet_12.jpg)
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/tero.j.virta/images/My1955Oval_GB_01.jpg)

Great wheels Tero!!

p.s. how was your visit to Holland?

Mini Cooper .... wrong forum.

I know, but if you read my previous reply you would see why i posted these pics.

Had these for awhile. Sold them after discovering that they flexed around hard corners.  :o
(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/284563.jpg)

the first pair of wheels I put on my '67 were 14" versions of these.

(http://www.triumphspitfire.com/images/wheels/Librewheel.jpg)

These ar 13" for a Triumoh Spitwad,,, er Spitfire,

thanks for answers... Probobly I'll buy the 2 litre fuchs. and where could I get those orginals ones, cuz repos are easy to get from Middlandwheels quite cheep. (I'll probobly buy them in england anyway... cuz I'm still there...)

what  about these cal parts?
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a266/herrvee/divers/Dsc00564.jpg)

Those Crestline lookalikes.....Don`t know anything about them. But I have a single one myself. The rim is really heavy and the welding between the aluminum and steel doesnt look too convincing....Does yours look like this one at the rear side?

Good description!  :D

Never a good thing!  :o

Those Crestline lookalikes.....Don`t know anything about them. But I have a single one myself. The rim is really heavy and the welding between the aluminum and steel doesnt look too convincing....Does yours look like this one at the rear side?

Hey Bjørn, welcome to the lounge  :)

Thanks, Rune! Better late than never, huh ? :-)

Welcome to the Lounge Airborne!

No, it wasn`t. I was running dropped spindles so they were close to the lower trailing arm and when I would hit a freeway onramp they would rub just a little but that was enough for me. Besides I had a set of four lug Ansens to go on instead.

No matter what style, year or make...wheels should always have 5 spokes or more. 4 (or even silly 3 spokes) look like something from a cartoon...well...in my oppinion anyway.  ;)

Thank you JHU! This site is kinda "needtobeehereallthetime" type of site. - addictive.

Glad to hear that Airborne! I thought you might like it..!

Both the (Rasberry)Ghia (Bill's brother talked me into it) and the 61 were mine back in the early 80's. Sold the Ghia to buy the vert. I cant remember what ever happened to the wheels.

This came in a box of VW literature I just bought.
I thought it might help identify some of the "Crestline" look-a-likes.
 ???

COOL  8) I love the look of the stock bug on mags  :)

yeah they look really good on that stock bug!!
nice

cool advertiser richard  :o

Noticed it says Walnut Creek in the right lower corner of that add, my old Crestlines had that cast into the backside of the spoke..

you're right rune in mine too , it's write walnut creek , cretlines mark II , calif

FYI, Walnut Creek is up near San Jose, California, just south of San Fransico.

from my  "down under"

I can't believe that none of you posted the old Cal-Look standard wheel - the wide 5 Centerline!!!! ;D  This is a shot of my old '62 Beetle from 2003.  Note the original Firestone 7" slicks in the rear. 8)

You are right, Dave! ;D

Centerlines is my choice too.
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f322/Rennfahrer/DSC00466.jpg)

Centerline 3,5" and  6"

Hey, look what happens if you lower it up front!! Look just like a....   :-X

I hate to beat a dead horse, but..............

Once again I have to point out that you Shubee are trying to lay claim to aset of wheels that I own and you've never been close to except in the pictures you find on the internet.

Do I have to lay all the facts out in this thread too or are you going to man up and admit these are not your wheels, never were your wheels, you've never touched them, you've never been with in 1000 miles of them.

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Then don't. Two posts on this board and both of them pissing into the wind about some wheels someone may or may not have. I mean, is it really that important in life?

--louis

I totally agree dude - 2 Posts ::) BUT this is a friendly palce and lets not get into bitchin like Other crappy forums - Please guys  :)

agreed!

last year I buy them with help of stephan may be the only complete set in france
I wait one more wheel to have five   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Ya just keep to facts , not fiction, check the samba forums, they are mr. warehouse's wheels FACT.

2 post because I'm not a Cal Look guy and don't frequent this forum.
But when people start telling me about someon claiming to "own" my stuff I had to come over and have a look.
You should be more upset with your "regular" here Shubee2 for lying to you guys.

FACT! It's the same dude that says he still has my EMPI USA license plates hanging in his garage. Good shit talker I guess. Can't man up to that as well. :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

I agree with Greg - lying about stuff you have/don't have is just lame...
Shame the other thread got deleted, I was beginning to enjoy myself...
Now this isn't The Rants, so I can also understand that mods try to keep it civil.

dont polish them and hang them on the ghia as they are,what you waiting for ;)

only nutts are missing for me once i ve got them I will fix the wheels on the ghia

Heres the Plate you are talking about on MY Squareback??  I Dont know how you could have them Since they were Sold to older Man Back in WI  to put on his Empi 72 Super Bettle for car shows. So if you have a 72 Super Beetle you might have them But the Point is I still have (One Plate)  Both Plates I sold On Samba, but both plate's use to be on my Squareback and then on one of my 67's the front plate got a little bent up on the Bug so I applyed for a Duplicate Plate That the one I have Never been on anything but a Nail..  so before you talk shit  why dont you find out the Facts...  Same thing Goes for Greg !!MR WareHouse!! you Plastered Pictures all over my Thread so I deleted it I made a Website of the resto so Idiots like you cant ruin it for others Facts are Facts I do Have 5 Americans and 7 Brm's I Dont Care What You Say it Means nothing to me you remind me of a little kid ( thats my picture)  Grow Up little man!!  I have two cars in the works 58 Ragtop and a 67 Sedan I hope to have them both at the 2008 VW Classic  Both cars will be built like 70's Cal Looks each car will have a One Off custom made Deck lid and some other Mods that have never been seen on a Cal Look  And Yes Both Cars Will Have The Wheels On them 58 will have Americans and the 67 BRM's  ( Just trying to clear the air I have been in to VW's 38 Years I can Say I have just about seen it all)

I say post a pic of you and the parts in question. That will put an end to it.

Here Here Jim go throw your toys out some place else

Too right dude  :) :) :)

FACT! That older man sold them to me years ago. His name is Jack Spencer. They are currently registerd to me here in California. Ohh and I hope to see your car(s) at next years Classic; especially from a guy that has seen it all. Heheheee.... ::)

Slightly off topic, has anyone got a photo of 155's on 4.5's, I'm have to get some tyres for a car and I'm considering a couple of different options.

 :)

You must of Paid A good Price for them Because he paid me $500.00 for them Lets see some Pictures of Your Car with Those EMPI USA Plates? YOU HAVE??  ;D ;D

i will put 155s on these 4.5s
will post a pic when its finished...

I restored a set of 5.5 and 6*15 deep Fuchs. Not very original, but I like this wheels  ;)

Before
(http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/548/818/20070523/dyn002_original_500_375_jpeg_2548818_e7f9c48d7a8ab930904e2eb6515835a5.jpg)

(http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/548/818/20070523/dyn002_original_500_375_jpeg_2548818_b93b171ee18c43267d244c595d7532ca.jpg)

(http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/548/818/20070608/dyn007_original_500_375_jpeg_2548818_7ab003dc0dd3727057c6c93e5ad2d486.jpg)
After something like 30h of work  :D
(http://blogsimages.skynet.be/images_v2/002/548/818/20070620/dyn010_original_516_391_jpeg_2548818_c720277e2805aed3f22d7180a96f0b2a.jpg)

Before some one tries to take credit for them, here's my latest score

(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa313/lollypopgumball/gregswheels001.jpg)

(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa313/lollypopgumball/gregswheels013.jpg)

Yes, those are NOS with the original boxes....

 :o

"Mr. Warehouse"-Greg,
Are the spinners shown on your NOS wheels original to the wheels? 
I ask as I have a set of American 5's, two having the threaded area for the centercap being machined for a left hand thread.

 I have wondered for a long time why American Wheel would have gone to the trouble when making a wheel for a VW,especially given the small actual number of wheels that they produced during their original manufacture.

Do you know anything as it relates to my question? THANKS!
Steve

Yes, they are original.
Some people claim to have origial "Hex" style caps instead, but you can't really arguewith stuff that's right out of teh box.
Left and right hand threads were both used I assume to keep the spinners from becoming loose and flying off.

Both my magnesium sets are RH threads so maybe you got what the store had back in the day unless you asked for the LH threads.
My Aluminum set has no threads at all it takes a 2 pieces cap.

I'm no expert, I'm learning as I collect.

American Made The Wheels In Alum, And Mag, they also had a two bar knock off that were right and left hand thread the knock offs said right side and left side with the word Undo with an arrow on them,  see how the bars of the knock offs are rt.& Lt. heres a Picture of the Hex Cap

Now thats an under statement  ;D ;D ;D

:o How could anyone have kept such a nice wheel and not mounted it on anything, EVER!!!!
Great score Greg :)

I Would have Thought they would have been a lot darker being Magnesium after setting all these years? :o :o ;D ;D

I hear you, Joe!  Run 'em! 

dave can you  post a better picture of your car , shes's sitting on torq trust?? i've this pictures of your ride
rgd
fabian

Wow, what a find!  From one treasure hunter to another, I am green with envy.  Tell us how you dug them up please?

I wish I could Fabian, but I don't have many of the car yet.  Were you there at the last drag day?  I was anxious to run the car again, but Carter Sidedraft demons kept us from running it.  We never even unhooked from the crew cab.  Bummer.  I havent had time to work on it since.......  That's life.  Fun car, though!  Yes, they are American Mags.

i wasn't at drag day   ::)  i stole the picture  on samba if i remember well  ;D
and can you describe the inside??? empi goodies??
thanks
fabian

The car is a low mile original car.  No EMPI.  Only the period Sun Tach, wheels and tires and the engine and trans are changed from original. 

A friend of a friend deal.
The "seller" put them on ebay under a weird listing and didn't get any decent bids.
He contacted my friends boss who contacted my friend, then he contacted me.

A auction of sorts went down between myself and the high bidder.
Kind of a 1 shot tell me what you'll pay thing, and I guess I was willing to pay more.


I'm sure being stored in the boxes in dry Arizona has kept them from turning dark.
We'll see what happens ince I get them here.
My used set was blasted 6 months ago and they still look brand new.

What does one of those Mg wheels weigh?

Arrrgggghhhh!!!!!!!!!  :o

some 130x5 rims
(http://www.markhamhouse.plus.com/thrusts.jpg)

Nice , I wouldn't mind a set of those myself . Always had a bit of a soft spot for porsche patten magnesium torque thrusts myself , but cant see a day when I could justify the price a set go for now . Still I can dream , don't suppose anyone will make a accurate copy of these 30 year old classics ?  ::)

The Worst Part is they only made them  in 15x7

they came in 15x6 too...

(http://www.markhamhouse.plus.com/15x6.jpg)

I have seen 5.5s,7s & 8s  all in the same place but they wont part with them,cheers richie,uk

I Know they made 15x6 15x7 and 15x8  But only in the chevy and ford bolt pattern as far I know I have only seen 15x7 in the Porsche pattern  I have a Pair of the Porsche 15x7 wheels redrilled on the rear of my 67 Nova

What size's do the American Racing magnesium wheels come in then?  as Jason Rew's wheels look like 4.5 and 5.5 combo , perfect in every way  8)

watch this links  ;D http://www.terovirta.com/volks/VolksWheelsFrame.php?page=VolksWheelsAmRacTThrust.html (http://www.terovirta.com/volks/VolksWheelsFrame.php?page=VolksWheelsAmRacTThrust.html)

Here's a more direct link...

http://www.terovirta.com/volks/VolksWheelsFrame.php?page=VolksWheelsAmRacTThrust.html (http://www.terovirta.com/volks/VolksWheelsFrame.php?page=VolksWheelsAmRacTThrust.html)

it's the same links ??? mr warehouse  ::)

Ooh like that link  ;D ;D

Just for clarification they are all porsche pattern,cheers richie,uk

You sure he cant be persuaded with a little more pressure Richie . you still coming down one weekend ? hope to see ya soon , got a fresh batch of students for your appraisal  ;D ;D

American Racing made the Torque thrust for Porsche in aluminum and mag.  Aluminum was 7" only (as far as I have ever seen).  The magnesium wheels were available in 5", 5.5", 6" , 7" and 8" (or 8.5 not sure)

I have personally owned 5.5's, 6's and 7s in magnesium.  I currently have mag 6"s as a spare set for my 911 and aluminum 7"s as a spare set for my Cal-looker (fronts narrowed to 4")

I am actually considering selling my magnesium 6's, but they wont be cheap if I do.

You must have been editing while I was posting.

No worries.

I have a ful set of 15x6 in alloy - looking for another pair in alloy to narrow...

here's mine  just return from the sand blaster  ;D just need a good polish job  ::) and in the late afternoon  i took my paper , water and other stuff to polish and maybe after 2 hours here's  the result , I shall need still just a little elbow grease to arrive at a good result  ;D ;D

 ;)

My Aluminum wheels are machined on the snout similar to the mags ones only without the threads.

(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/370590.jpg)

Aluminum

(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/226558.jpg)

Magnesium

(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/308336.jpg)

The caps I use on both

(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/370593.jpg)

nice wheels fabian

Fabian Why did you blast your new wheels? wernt they Silver? JGE Torkers?

they are gonna look SICK on your ride dude - I can't wait  :)

shubee : yes those 're my torker , and i don't like the color  of this one , i would like that they look original one i prefer the sand blasted color , i can't explain why ,i had the same treatment on my empi 5 , and i prefer , and it's difficult to find a nice color for wheels , and that will be  with the color of my car l 225 jupiter grey and i don't like black wheels , only brm's ;D
lee : i would like to put this one on my car,  but it will be necessary that I change my porsches brakes drums against vw brakes  because the rim does not go on those  >:(
but i will be a nice ride with the wheels i agree with you  ;D
cheer dude

Arrrgghh never sandlblast a polished wheel lip.  It wil take forever to get all of those little pits polished out! :o
  Also, I think you will be disapointed with your raw centers  The raw blasted finish will grab onto every bit of brake dust and road grime.  They will be a nightmare to keep clean.
I would suggest experimenting with the different cast finish paints out there for low sheen, non-metallic finish for your spokes.

Hey Fabian, that wheel/ drum fouling sucks. Have you got any brakes in mind as an alternative? There are a couple of sets of Maico disc kits on samba at the moment, that would suit your period ride better than a CSP disc kit in my humble opinion! Not cheap, but those 356 drums being sold would cover some of the cost!

Si.

thank you for the councils dave but I intend to put a matt varnish above and as regards polishing I did not have problems with the empis 5 they 'had the same treatment  ;D
rgd
fabian

yes very cool disc brake  :o , those would have their place on my car  8)
simon pm send

DO IT FABIAN  ;) :) I LOVE THOSE DISCS ;D ;D ;D

The money shot...

(http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/372912.jpg)

Top to bottom...

Original boxes
NOS mag wheels with original 3 bar knock offs
Used aluminum wheels, 1 has a 2 piece center cap.
Used mag wheels

What Good are they If There not going on a Car  I would Rather have the Cash in my Pocket Then Store a Bunch of Wheels lets see  Your Car With A Set On It We Have Seen Enough Pictures of them. Or Do You Even Own A Cal Look?

Nope, no Cal Look car here. I'm a Resto Cal guy.
1 set will end up on one of my Buses after I do some modifing to the drum, the others will go in with the rest of my wheel collection.

I had cash in my pocket, got a great deal on all these wheels. At some point someone with more cash will come along and the wheels will move on.
Better than a bank account, 401k, or a CD.
Much easier to store than another car too.

Don't be a hater.

Wow Shubee, considering that you are always the first person to whip yours out in a thread (relevent or not) I cant belive you are being critical of this guy.

I wont say anymore about him  but there things you dont know about :o :o ;D ;D ;D

I think everyone knows I called you out and your upset about it.

No its More Like I bought something a fews years back from you when I lived in Calif and got Burned I dont Think You know who I really am  But that's fine. Enough said.  I wont bash you anymore!! But I will never buy anything from you again.

I know who you are Gary, but I don't recall you ever stepping up and buying anything from me.
If you did and you were unhappy a simple phone call or email would have handled it.
15 + years I've been doing this and I've never "burned" anybody.

If you have problem with me call, PM, or email.
Don't poke jabs at me on the internet. That won't fix anything.

Back on track....

Is this Cal Look?

(http://vintagewarehouse.com/cars/64%20hardtop/IMG_1700.JPG)

Who gives .....?

It's a nice looking car on some sweet rims.  8)

Beautiful car!!!

guys be cool that's the lounge not a  boxing ring :-\ don't fight on this  place  ;)

I agree with Speedy. Best to take this pissing match off line.

Thanks,

--louis

out of his 17 Posts  I would say 15 are attacks toward me??   I said Just Drop it  I am tired of  hearing you whine like a Baby  I am Done Saying anymore about it SO LET'S JUST MOVE ON

Let's continue the subject please. We don't wanna ruin the atmosphere that our users are so happy with.
I seriously don't wanna remove this thread because of b.s. keep that on PM instead.

NOW, more wheels please!

oh yeah.. btw.. I received my new ercos today.. 6" and 3,5" and they looked supersweet... Can't wait to put some rubber on them so I'm ready to go to SCC first thing next month

Trond, are you going with radials, drag radials, or slicks?

Normal radials. The wheels are gonna be put on my daily driver, a 1964 T1. And to get to SCC I have to drive around 600km each way. :-)

Will you post us a photo when they're on ?

Cosmics are Cal Look too??

I have a couple of those also, sorry not on a car though....

(http://vintagewarehouse.com/wheels/cosmics/all.JPG)

nice cosmic wheels I don(t know they made in two differrent size

I'm not sure, but wasn't Cosmic an English company? I think that the small version of the wheels were for an Austin Mini. Speedwell also made a small version of the BRM for a Mini.

Cheers
David

the smaller are 4lug holes and i know that  cosmics made wheels for bmw , fiat , ford, alfa and volvo
here's and advert from an auto motor & sport

Yeah, there are 10's (Mini) 12's, 13's (BMW, Jaguar)and 15's (Volvo, Porsche)

I'll like the Porsche 15's personally, and actually do havea shot of them on my Bus...

(http://vintagewarehouse.com/Highroof/dumped/high%20003.jpg)

The others are just cool to have.

you're too strong fabian ;D

 ;D
 ;)

Nice set of 5 polished and detailed 120 pcd 15" Cosmic's  on ebay at the moment  . ;D
looks like they come with some choise rubber too :)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190137952899&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=009

I'd be careful with that one. Same seller had the same wheels, same pictures, etc. On ebay about 6 months ago and they "sold" then for $3900+

Why is he listing them again??

Well first we have the 4,5 and 5,5 inch chromed empi sprintstars for my Lowlight...

... then the 4,5 and 6 deep inch Fuchs alloys on my beetle.  I have these wheels for 10 years now and I still love them...

hye philip welcome to the lounge I am happy to see you there
your sprintstars are very nice and I didn't know that you got a KG low light
 ;D

you're welcome philip   ;)
rgd
fabian

hey flip -- are those the chrome sprints that were in kobus warehouse?

Hi guys,

Yes, fred, I got a lowlight, but it'll take some years before it will be finished. 

Turtle, no the ones at Kobus' are now in Kurt's hands.  I got mine almost 7 years ago...

See you,

Philip
Flatline-Lowriders

good luck

I'm going to have to get some photos! In four lug I've currently got a set of four 4.5" chrome Sprintstars (Johnny Grigg's old wheels), a set of five split rim Empi 8-spokes, a set of four repro 8-spokes (and the poster earlier in this thread was right, they are totally different!), a pair of KN Gemini wheels (a British made wheel, apparently designed to replace the BRM) and in five lug I've got a set of four Flat Four BRMs which I want to have re-polished to look more like originals and a set of four American Eagle fuch-style wheels. I didn't mean to start building up a little collection but it just happened! :D

Somepeople can help me and give me some informations ?
I'd like to know if this OG Empi GT Alloy wheels (2 pieces) were produced in 13'' ?
I know that Empi produced them in 14'' and 15'' but i'm not sure in 13''.
Please let me know, 
Thxs

franck the 13'' & 14'' was for dastun  i saw one time a 13" for sale on ebay , and the wheels was on a dastun race car
rgd
fabian

13 were only available for Datsun.
14 and 15 were available for VW's.

Thanks guys for your help  ;)

there's a set of polished 13" on ebay.com right now......

13" is for datsun not?

Whats OG mean? and what do gangsters have to do with VW wheels?
cheers richie,uk

Really what does OG mean??? I see it everywhere and I really dont know what it means. I used to think it meant original German, but I found out I was wrong.

Yes it had original 13"" empi 8 spokes
Now what the heck does OG mean!!!!!!!!!

Scott Bakkens Sepia Brown 64 Had Datsun 13's on the front he redrilled some VW to chevy adapters he had 15 inch VW in the rear

This ones !
And for an amayezing price...............

But keep cool guys, items are sold !

Empi's story
Chapter 1 - Lesson 1
8 spoke GT Alloy is the real name of this Empi wheel
You can find it on brand's catalogs

Chapter 1 - Lesson 2
OG could be say "ORIGINAL"

Stay tuned tomorrow guys for Lesson 3
 ;)

OG means "original gangster".

It's Stomy Bugsy and Clyde Barrow who design these wheels
 ;D ;D ;D

Thxs for precisions.

My point exactly,why do vW people use this phrase to describe something?   Now there have been a few crooks over time selling parts,but as far as I am aware none of them have actually been gangsters,maybe the 2nd incarnation of Empi ;)  Now back to the subject,cheers richie,uk

I always thought OG was original, in this case to determine between the original empi wheels, and later reproduction wheels.

By the way, I thnk the 8 spokes on the front of my old cabrio were 14's, and I forget just how nice original empi 8 spokes look! They are comparitively cheap these days as well - certainly a cheaper alternative to fuchs on a late model IMHO!

Si.

Nope, OG is Original Gangsta.  Term came from the rap world and for some reason the VW community has latched on to it.
Kids will try to say it means Original German.....and then they describe EMPI parts as OG !?!?!?!  Whatever

For what it is worth, the accepted abbreviation for original is orig.

"Thats a bitchin Sano Cal-Look car!  Are those OG BRM's on that E-ticket ride?"   :D

YO to that nigga!

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YO to that nigga!
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 ;D ;D ;D ;D............. 8)

Respek

(http://www.sivacracy.net/archives/aligwall01.jpg)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

 ;D ;D ;D
Fabian,
You're a crazy funny guy !
Take care,

YO to that nigga!
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 ;D ;D ;D ;D............. 8)
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Classic!

What really chaps my arse is when someone says "NOS part, only installed once but never used". I hate to break it to you buddy, but once you installed it, its now just a used part. Another one I have seen is "Like NOS!". How can something be like an NOS part.? It is either NOS or its not. One of my recent favorites though was, "New NOS fenders from Italy"  ::)

--louis

PS: Can you tell I have been spending a lot of time on the Samba lately?

Or "it was NOS before I mounted it" as sales pitch  :D

COME ON Louis NOS  on Samba means Nice Old Shit  ;D ;D ;D  Not New Old Stock  ;D ;D ;D

And next week I will get on my lil soap box and rant about the meaning of restored, so tune in. Same bat time, same bat location.  ;D

--louis

I HATE with a vengeance NOS being spoken as "noss". It's pronounced "Enn-Oh-Ess". No ifs no buts. OK? (Or should that be "Okay"?) >:(

The same goes for nitrous systems being referred to as NOS or even "Noss". NOS is a trade name – Nitrous Oxide Systems. N₂O is better but only refers to one part of the process.

 
 I always laugh when Dutch people try to say VW in English and say "Vee Wee" instead of Vee-Double-U (or veedub)...  ;D ;D ;D
 I get their confusion though because in Dutch one pronounces VW as "Vay Way".

If Someone says Noss or Nawss (redneck version) your thought process should be:

1. This clown is a maroon

2. Should I race him for cash or pink slips?

3. Is the POS ricer he is driving worth parting out?

Of course if he is driving a Porsh your answers may vary.  ;D

--louis

Oh Cool A Lesson In Resto Cal Cant Wait To See this One ;D ;D

or any other colour of their choice!!!  :D :D :D

John, as promised here is a picture of my daily driver with the new "shoes" :-)

(http://juniks.org/~trond/newshoes.jpg)

What is an E-ticket ride? I hear that crap all the time and don't know what it means.

I was never really keen on OG either. Just say original. ::) or german.

And NOS, should be N.O.S ;D

It'sa So Cal thing....

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3f/DisneyETicket_wbelf.jpg/250px-DisneyETicket_wbelf.jpg)

To expand on Mr. Warehouse's posts. Back in the day, Disneyland sold rides individually. You'd buy tickets and then give them to the ride operator. Tickets were A, B, C, D or E with the E Tickets being the most expensive and offering the most exciting rides,

back to the plot ;D


4 1/2 and early 6's

(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p82/rocketron_photos/4thfebguages001.jpg)


and what the hell are these as seen at EBI

(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p82/rocketron_photos/bugin004.jpg)

17 inch chevy wheels if i remeber it correct. comes from some sort of american car. i believe they were 3,5 inches wide


if my memory is good that was the answer we got at EBI
all the memories are allready blurring, we need a new EBI fast, just for refreshing my memory...  ;D

Those Wheels Came on a early to mid 70's Chrysler 300

Don't know if they are too old school , but i just got me a set of porsche patten 130 /15/5.5 Ansen's . 

(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff84/49-rag/IMG_1171.jpg)
They have a mad offset , just tuck in with the 3" narrowed beam  :o , short axel's on the rear seem fine too get them in .
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff84/49-rag/IMG_1173-2.jpg)
Don't know if Im going to run with them  :-\

Love that car  8)

Does it have a narrowed beam, if so how much?

I have just got rid of my 3.5" and got a 2" cos of the zero offset


Here's my old-ish style cal wheels  ;)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/ballbag/Bug%20Resto/newcentrefront.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/ballbag/Bug%20Resto/newcentrerear.jpg)

Jay

If you decide not to and you want to sell????  ;) ;)

Polished centerlines rule 8) best looking wheel on a large 5 stud car IMHO :-*

liked the mahles so much before they got a repro !
was my 2nd set that i sold to a club member where they got a black / polished detailing .

(http://www.gasburner.net/cars/ernst_large_2.jpg)

My new favorites!  by the way, I need one more, a single, solo uno, wheel. T34 ghia will look awesome see the center snout, a littel different.

(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z148/2manytoys_photo/magmissing.jpg)

I have some old Mitchell wheels lying around. Do they count as "old school cal look" wheels?

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r260/cam_shaft/MitchellWheels.jpg)

Don't know if Im going to run with them  :-\
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If you decide not to and you want to sell????  ;) ;)
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Just taken the narrowed beam out of my car to bolt into Martins 65 so he can run his Erco's up front with the disc's  8), gonna see what it looks like with the Ansen's too , if he decides against using them I'll drop you a line Joe .  :) ;)
Don't suppose you know anyone who make's or can make replacement lazer cut beam end's/tower's as i dont want to tub the 65's inner arches to get the 3" narrowed beam in  ???

You could try Matt Keene, I seem to remember he might do them??

Who needs porn when you see that...

Not all Cal Look, not all Old School, not all in the pictures ;) 100+ rims now, it's getting to be a bit of an addiction  ;D

(http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7cc39b3127cceb274e4608e4700000026108QYs2zhyyZ-)

(http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7cc39b3127cceb274fe8c0f9600000026108QYs2zhyyZ-)

(http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7cc39b3127cceb274f128ce9d00000026108QYs2zhyyZ-)

(http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7cc39b3127cceb274fd46cef500000026108QYs2zhyyZ-)

Hopefully in the New Year I'll get round to putting up some better racking to display them a bit better.

Hello Joe.... what are those rims on the far left????

Are they VW pattern?

Yes they are 4 stud VW, called Dragways. Fonz you're in the right place to find some  ;)

And the one behind the battery box? Wheels is the only thing I collect... Would love to see them all JoeG

Another 4 stud VW wheel called Indianapolis

(http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7cc38b3127cceb27abfa6961b00000026108QYs2zhyyZ-)

Always on the lookout for any 'odd' VW wheels 4 or 5 stud if anyone has anything :)

Wow!! Is it 14" or even TRX??
Who made the wheel? A set of those in 5x130 would rock my boat!

They are 14's What is TRX?
No name on them apart from Indianapolis. Could look good in a 5x130 and in 15's :)

TRX is metric sized wheels and tires

The "Empi GT alloy wheels" were also marketed as "Empi GT Spyder wheels" . 8 spokes were definately made in 13" for vws. Although never mentioned in any of the catalogs..... They are pretty uncommon though. Here is a pic of one of my 13" wheels. 4x130 mm.

rarest of the rarest  :o

Sure look different from ERCOs.
Tell everyone about that set of wheel's lineage.

They're also kind of an odd size... I think they're 390mm. Also, the bead is at a different angle.

  And the front tires...

The rims are from Mike Mabe's K Ghia.

And the front tires are from Bill Schwimmer's old car.
Bill! Would you like to elaborate?

The tires I got off Kris Klingaman's car when he put the short M&H's on. Funny story about getting them mounted, I drove my '55 over to Super Shop's on Chapman in Garden Grove, they would'nt mount them on the car because they were "non DOT approved" & the car was driving on the street. So I was a bit miffed, I put the tires back in the car ,pulled out  onto Chapman Ave & bought the motor up & let it fly... And it did a big ol' wheelstand in 1st and 2nd. So I drove home & pulled the front wheels off & went back. The Holley 4 barrel selling Super Shop guys were totally blown away by what happened out on Chapman...

I never liked the meatheads at Super Shops. There was one a mile or two down the street from Buggy House. I went in there and bought my Flowmaster from them. Of course the elmo that sold it to me had to make a freaking comment about owning a Bug.

today i've try some wheels on the 61   ::) ::) which one i will choose to replace the 5 spokes during the resto in a near future

wheels on the car  ::) what do you think ???

ohhhhh fabs! poor guy, how much we envy you!!! ;)

Why don't you use on every corner a different wheel? :P

;D ;D why not jeepee

Fab, I think the car would look great with a set of Cal Parts/Rocket/Crestline style wheel!

Tourq Thrust would look very tough ! ;)

that will be my choice too  ;)

i also would go for crest, ET's, calparts, ... period correct on your ride!

I would go with the Torkers first choice and the BRM's second Choice to me the Crestlines are to much like the Empi 5 spoke's. The look of the Torker there is No other look a like for it

I would go with crestlines everyday... since they are as old as the car...  :)

Americans or Americans... take your choice!  ;D

After that, the Crestlines, Empis or BRMs in that order.

Those Crestlines look nice!

torquers first choice also

I disagree Shub. The single most important design element in a wheel is "depth". In a perfect world the Empi Five would have more lip... but then they wouldn't fit the VW anymore, as the ET goes out the window. Both the Empi five, the Crestline, and the Torker is doing their best to look like the American TORQUE THRUST design. It's quite easy to see who got the closest to archiving the look. To bad they fit the bug so poorly.

Try Cal Parts if your looking for "Depth" ;) :)

And before you say it I know thay don't fit on a bug  ::)

I'm not a big Empi 5 fan, but I have to say they work very well on your car Fabian.
If I were you I would not go for the BRM's. They suit most cars and would be fine on yours too, but your car is one of few that is really different and stands out from the crowd, I think they would make it more mainstream..
The Torkers are cool but I'm with JHU on this one, think they should have more lip and not too keen on the "backward bent" spokes.
I would definetely go for the Crestlines as they are genuine and would suit the look on your car very well. They would make it perfect in my eyes. But then I have always been partial to old fivespokes..

hey fabs,
I like the 5 spokes....  ;D

Basti

nice cars fasti  early or late model  ???  are those ex tobi 5spokes ???

Thanks fabs...it´s a 62..
See the specs in the Feb Volksworld  ;D

And Yes these are Tobis Ex wheels.
Two of the new and two of the old version,
but I bought another two to change the cracked ones  :(

Hey Basti,

Amazing looking car.........  :o 


  :)

Hi everybody, very nice wheels on this post, but I think I'll stay a BRM addict!

Waiting I can afford a set of roriginal BRM, what do you think about these American Racing?

(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8936/1171726dm4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Those are the best-looking 'Porsche-alikes" I've seen.

hello Arnaud , you no I'm in love from your wheels !!

Somes of mine : mangels , fuchs , ritter etc...

They're not in production any more, are they? 

no they are not if i am correct and i think they look great, the more i see them the more i like them. they look quite different from alloys  ;D and have a personal twist to them.

Mark Herbert called them "gay-lloys"

And I have to agree :)

used to be a BRM addit..

but, i'm a fuchs lover now, especially 901   ;D

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c37/Hipposleek/Change%2064/fucks_on/ResizeofIMG_6801m.jpg)

(http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4452/centelineconvodv3.jpg)

My "new ones"  Old Centerline convo's,  4.5" and 5.5"  Thnxs Kinky Mick's happy wheels !!!

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7701/8048vp6.jpg)
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7694/8050kw5.jpg)

and my other ones  Early og.  Empi 5-spokes   :)

a buddy of mine at work has a set (4) of the wide five "alloys" for sale 400 bucks I haven't seen them but hit me up if you want contact   714 381-6675 Jason.

Nice!  8)