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Black Sheep
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Project 68 cab
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December 11, 2009, 23:45:17 pm »
Will I ever learn " probably not "
will you just take a look at the dog I dragged home
looks like the overhaul of the 49 is gonna take a bit of a back seat for a while
Got this little fixer upper "read shit loads of rust cutting out " for her indoors . It's a 68 model , plan is to cut out the rot which is most of the back end , heater channels etc .
Switch it over to RHD , de trim , drop the front a bit , paint it in its original royal red and sit it on some Mahle wheels .
Gonna weld in some bracing tomorrow " lot more than I would put in a saloon" and pull cut and tear the body off the pan , wish me luck
Got a big list of panels going already
luggage floor
two rear quarters
heater channels
sill strengtheners
two new pan half's
68> rear valence
two rear wings
ETC ETC
Oh yeah don't tell the Mrs but its gonna have an turbo in there
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Last Edit: December 11, 2009, 23:59:32 pm by 49-rag
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Re: Project 68 cab
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December 11, 2009, 23:56:24 pm »
So Glenn,good luck with the resto,and I like the fact a "vwcab" with a turbo.
Interesting project,I will follow it for sure.
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Re: Project 68 cab
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Reply #2 on:
December 12, 2009, 08:12:45 am »
Quote from: 49-rag on December 11, 2009, 23:45:17 pm
Oh yeah don't tell the Mrs but its gonna have an turbo in there
Utter madness, it can't be done
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Re: Project 68 cab
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December 12, 2009, 12:50:58 pm »
cool project!
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Black Sheep
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Re: Project 68 cab
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Reply #4 on:
December 12, 2009, 18:30:56 pm »
Just gone out and got a donor car 1302S with a new luggage panel with it
Looks like the cab my have to go IRS
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Martin Greaves
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Re: Project 68 cab
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December 12, 2009, 20:27:48 pm »
Quote from: Lids on December 12, 2009, 08:12:45 am
Quote from: 49-rag on December 11, 2009, 23:45:17 pm
Oh yeah don't tell the Mrs but its gonna have an turbo in there
Utter madness, it can't be done
Hey we not talking about your car.
Also what idiot talked you into a turbo motor for it.
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Re: Project 68 cab
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Reply #6 on:
December 12, 2009, 20:33:52 pm »
Quote from: gold65turbo on December 12, 2009, 20:27:48 pm
Quote from: Lids on December 12, 2009, 08:12:45 am
Quote from: 49-rag on December 11, 2009, 23:45:17 pm
Oh yeah don't tell the Mrs but its gonna have an turbo in there
Utter madness, it can't be done
Hey we not talking about your car.
Also what idiot talked you into a turbo motor for it.
Motor for mine is starting to take shape, bottom end is been trial fitted and balanced over xmas, the heads are been tested and then put on a Serdi valve machine centre(just imported into the UK) to check valve angles, length etc so that all 4 chambers are identical. So in a few months i'll go heads up against your hairdryer.
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Black Sheep
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Re: Project 68 cab
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Reply #7 on:
December 12, 2009, 23:57:36 pm »
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Last Edit: December 12, 2009, 23:59:14 pm by 49-rag
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Re: Project 68 cab
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December 13, 2009, 09:44:28 am »
Quote from: 49-rag on December 12, 2009, 23:57:36 pm
Didn't hear you fibreglass boy. Speak up
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Black Sheep
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Re: Project 68 cab
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December 13, 2009, 20:59:06 pm »
Well after 5 hours , six ultra thin cutting discs and a lot of swearing , the donor 1302S is now a collection of parts
" anyone want a usable 1302 front clip and a pair of mac struts Im your man
"
I can now tick off the luggage panel , rear valance and possibly the rear quarters from the want list
The pan halfs on this donor car are very solid , what with the S gearbox Im going to have to look into grafting on the frame head from the cab pan and transfer the ID
Can't wait now to get stuck into the cab proper now , just need to strip down the donor rear end to see what's useable .
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leec
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Re: Project 68 cab
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Reply #10 on:
December 13, 2009, 21:32:50 pm »
So its not done yet?
Where did the 1302 donor come from then?
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Black Sheep
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Re: Project 68 cab
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December 13, 2009, 22:12:11 pm »
Nah not quite yet
The 1302 was a chance score , went around Max & AJ's for a brew yesterday lunchtime and got talking , he said he had something i wanted but could'nt have
a luggage panel which he had hand picked from another car , then said that he knew of a car that was for sale age;s ago that had a new one with a load of new panels to boot
He dug out the number gave them a call and to both of our supprise it was still there .
24 hours later it was sat in my drive , and a few hours after that it was parts .
Dont hang about around here you know
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herbieharv
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Re: Project 68 cab
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Reply #12 on:
December 14, 2009, 07:16:45 am »
is that what they call a karman skip?
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Neil Davies
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Re: Project 68 cab
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December 14, 2009, 11:45:30 am »
Well I can't see the pictures, but it can't be nay worse than mine!
http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,9041.0.html
I've got a load of spare bits (complete set of window winders mechanisms, glass except for screen, pair of really ropy doors and various bits of Karmann metalwork) if you need stuff, and I've found out loads about how Karmanns are put together too! I might be picking your brains for measurements from time to time!
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Black Sheep
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Re: Project 68 cab
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December 14, 2009, 17:35:14 pm »
Cheers Neil , I may be up for the winder mech's as both the drivers /right side one's are useless on my cab , drop me a list of spare's especially panels
Those pix of your heater channels look very similar to the condition of mine
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Neil Davies
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Re: Project 68 cab
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December 14, 2009, 18:12:59 pm »
I'm home and have had a look at the picture - doesn't look too bad!
Funny how they look better in the pics than in real life...
I'll have a good look for the winder gear next week - I finish school on Friday!
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Neil Davies
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Re: Project 68 cab
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Reply #16 on:
December 14, 2009, 18:18:22 pm »
Quote from: 49-rag on December 13, 2009, 20:59:06 pm
Well after 5 hours , six ultra thin cutting discs and a lot of swearing , the donor 1302S is now a collection of parts
" anyone want a usable 1302 front clip and a pair of mac struts Im your man
"
I can now tick off the luggage panel , rear valance and possibly the rear quarters from the want list
The pan halfs on this donor car are very solid , what with the S gearbox Im going to have to look into grafting on the frame head from the cab pan and transfer the ID
Can't wait now to get stuck into the cab proper now , just need to strip down the donor rear end to see what's useable .
Just read this bit again Glenn - 1302 pan halves are different to torsion bar cars apparently - shame because I've got a really good 1303 pan at the unit too... They're wider at the front, where the heater channels kick in just in front of the doors.
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Black Sheep
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Re: Project 68 cab
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December 14, 2009, 18:39:08 pm »
Bugger
, oh well Ive now got a pan for sale too
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Neil Davies
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Re: Project 68 cab
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December 15, 2009, 09:16:29 am »
Quote from: 49-rag on December 14, 2009, 18:39:08 pm
Bugger
, oh well Ive now got a pan for sale too
If you've got to replace the pan halves in the cabrio pan, it might be easier to do that and weld in IRS brackets at the same time than to do a frameheads and pan half swap on the 02 pan. All depends on the state of the framehead!
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Re: Project 68 cab
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December 15, 2009, 18:57:55 pm »
http://www.volkszone.com/VZi/showthread.php?t=551646
framehead?
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Black Sheep
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Re: Project 68 cab
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December 15, 2009, 18:58:31 pm »
Pretty much what i was thinking Neil , got a heater channel kicking about here some place I'll place it on the pan just to see how different they are .
Still on the upside got offered a intercooler today that's just right , thinking about cutting in a type 25 top engine hatch into the luggage floor and dropping the cooler in next to the box
May even raise the whole floor while I'm at it for a bit more room for go faster bits
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kev d
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Re: Project 68 cab
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Reply #21 on:
December 16, 2009, 09:13:40 am »
Just cheat & throw away most of the shell like I did, it'll be done in no time..
Cheers,
Kev
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Neil Davies
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Re: Project 68 cab
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December 16, 2009, 10:55:42 am »
Quote from: 49-rag on December 15, 2009, 18:58:31 pm
Pretty much what i was thinking Neil , got a heater channel kicking about here some place I'll place it on the pan just to see how different they are .
Still on the upside got offered a intercooler today that's just right , thinking about cutting in a type 25 top engine hatch into the luggage floor and dropping the cooler in next to the box
May even raise the whole floor while I'm at it for a bit more room for go faster bits
Cutting a hole in the luggage floor is a really good idea, and one I'll certainly do in my cars. Why the factory ever deleted that feature I don't know...
I don't think I'd use a T25 hatch though - they're pretty heavy! I think I'll make something out of a donor section of luggage floor, maybe with a simple frame welded round the edge, or just a folded edge like in our split bugs.
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Black Sheep
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Re: Project 68 cab
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Reply #23 on:
December 16, 2009, 18:50:59 pm »
Yeah got to look into a bit more yet , type 25 was just an idea , still got to get my head around what Im gonna use In the engine plumbing dept before I crack open the mig
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tikimadness
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Re: Project 68 cab
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December 16, 2009, 20:21:53 pm »
Quote from: kev d on December 16, 2009, 09:13:40 am
Just cheat & throw away most of the shell like I did, it'll be done in no time..
Cheers,
Kev
That's what I would do single skin it put a big motor in it and paint it yellow
Looks like a lot of work 49rag
Ah at least we have another topic to read
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Black Sheep
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Re: Project 68 cab
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December 16, 2009, 20:46:53 pm »
That's what I would do single skin it put a big motor in it and paint it yellow
Michael
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Martin Greaves
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Re: Project 68 cab
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December 16, 2009, 21:45:59 pm »
Quote from: tikimadness on December 16, 2009, 20:21:53 pm
Quote from: kev d on December 16, 2009, 09:13:40 am
Just cheat & throw away most of the shell like I did, it'll be done in no time..
Cheers,
Kev
That's what I would do single skin it put a big motor in it and paint it yellow
Looks like a lot of work 49rag
Ah at least we have another topic to read
Michael
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Re: Project 68 cab
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December 16, 2009, 21:54:47 pm »
Sorry my bad
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Re: Project 68 cab
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December 17, 2009, 13:02:11 pm »
Quote from: Neil Davies on December 14, 2009, 18:18:22 pm
Just read this bit again Glenn - 1302 pan halves are different to torsion bar cars apparently - shame because I've got a really good 1303 pan at the unit too... They're wider at the front, where the heater channels kick in just in front of the doors.
The halves are the same for torsion and 1302/irs, 73- 1303 have a deeper area where the seats mount but the profile is the same
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Re: Project 68 cab
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December 17, 2009, 14:56:11 pm »
Quote from: Neil Davies on December 16, 2009, 10:55:42 am
Cutting a hole in the luggage floor is a really good idea, and one I'll certainly do in my cars. Why the factory ever deleted that feature I don't know...
I don't think I'd use a T25 hatch though - they're pretty heavy! I think I'll make something out of a donor section of luggage floor, maybe with a simple frame welded round the edge, or just a folded edge like in our split bugs.
Glenn, I may have a spare panel like the one i have fitted, it's from a Brazillian Kombi
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