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« Reply #210 on: February 07, 2011, 20:09:18 pm »
Thanks Zach.  Wink

Quote from: Nico86 on February 04, 2011, 23:57:05 pm

I'm starting ordering parts, here are the last things I need help with :

1. About copperheads gaskets, do I need it ? Are they included in the 1300/1600 engine gasket kit ? I see there are 0.040" and 0.060"...

2. To mount the crank in the case I need : bearings kit of course + brass gear + oil slinger + flywheel seal + this http://www.vwparts.net/BP4034.html  Huh No seal behind the crank pulley right ?

3. About the seals between cylinders and case (don't know the name in english) the one in the 1300/1600 engine gasket kit are ok ? Or I need other seals for the 90,5 cylinders ?

4. The correct Mahle 90,5 kit I need is the A forged piston-cyl. kit : http://www.vwparts.net/BP4576-16X.html ?
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« Reply #211 on: February 07, 2011, 20:14:58 pm »
You don't need copper head gaskets. And you also don't need the paper gaskets under the cylinders, some high temp silicone works a treat Wink
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« Reply #212 on: February 07, 2011, 20:47:04 pm »
Ok great  Wink
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« Reply #213 on: February 07, 2011, 23:12:30 pm »
I'm looking to crank/case bearings...

If there'are no Kolbenschmidt, Mahle are ok ?

About the cam bearings, is it better to use double thrust bearings http://www.vwparts.net/111198541HD.html or standard ones ar fine http://www.vwparts.net/111198541.html ?
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« Reply #214 on: February 07, 2011, 23:25:57 pm »
Mahle is ok, Kolbenschmidt is better. Whatever you get, make sure the split bearing is steel backed!! I'd go for the double thrust.
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« Reply #215 on: February 07, 2011, 23:52:14 pm »
Ok thanks  Wink
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« Reply #216 on: February 08, 2011, 12:40:29 pm »
Seems that Kolbenschmidt  bearings are unavailable for the moment. I asked several shops about it : the best quality they have is Mahle, Kolbenschmidt are out of stock most of the time, and they don't know when they will get them.  Huh

What do you think, Mahle are still ok for a mild engine ?
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« Reply #217 on: February 08, 2011, 14:59:55 pm »
As long as the center split bearing is steel backed, yes.
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« Reply #218 on: February 08, 2011, 18:27:29 pm »
There is a post on the other forum, about bearings and steelback, there is also Silverline Bearings that are steelback and sound good. Below is a link to the Samba on Silverline Bearings. Am seriously thinking about a set for my spare motor I'm refreshing.

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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1071176
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« Reply #219 on: February 08, 2011, 18:31:57 pm »
I hear that AJ Sims is coming out with bearings also, sounds very impressive. Jason Foster (DKP) will be running a set from AJ, according to the post.


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« Reply #220 on: February 08, 2011, 23:58:34 pm »
Thanks guys I will ask if Mahle are steel backed or not, steel backed means this ?

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Ted by the way, what is the other forum ? The Samba ? Cal-look.com ? UAC ? I sometimes read this and wonder what it could be  Grin.
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« Reply #221 on: February 09, 2011, 00:42:39 am »
Hey Nico, it's the Cal-Look Forum.  Wink

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« Reply #222 on: February 09, 2011, 00:56:48 am »
Quote from: racecraf on February 09, 2011, 00:42:39 am
Hey Nico, it's the Cal-Look Forum.  Wink

Ted

 Wink I've found the thread you mentionned. So it seems that now even Kolbenschmidt is starting to produce crappy stuff...  Angry
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« Reply #223 on: February 09, 2011, 01:02:18 am »
Quote from: Nico86 on February 08, 2011, 23:58:34 pm
Thanks guys I will ask if Mahle are steel backed or not, steel backed means this ?

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Ted by the way, what is the other forum ? The Samba ? Cal-look.com ? UAC ? I sometimes read this and wonder what it could be  Grin.

Only the center main bearing is steel backed. The one that is in two halves. It is noticeably heavier than the rest of the bearings.
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« Reply #224 on: February 09, 2011, 01:05:17 am »
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Quote from: Nico86 on February 08, 2011, 23:58:34 pm
Thanks guys I will ask if Mahle are steel backed or not, steel backed means this ?

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Ted by the way, what is the other forum ? The Samba ? Cal-look.com ? UAC ? I sometimes read this and wonder what it could be  Grin.

Only the center main bearing is steel backed. The one that is in two halves. It is noticeably heavier than the rest of the bearings.

Thanks Zach, I didn't find a correct translation to french for "steel backed".
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« Reply #225 on: February 10, 2011, 15:45:03 pm »
About spark plugs, Bosch W7AC/NGK B6HS or W8AC ??
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« Reply #226 on: February 11, 2011, 22:27:43 pm »
Quote from: Nico86 on February 10, 2011, 15:45:03 pm
About spark plugs, Bosch W7AC/NGK B6HS or W8AC ??

...and a few questions keep coming as I'm making the list of parts to buy...  Tongue

> About valves, Berg ones  http://www.geneberg.com/cat.php?cPath=6_184_2777  or Bugpack stainless-steel  http://www.vwparts.net/BP4045.html ??
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« Reply #227 on: February 13, 2011, 23:39:39 pm »
Quote from: Nico86 on February 11, 2011, 22:27:43 pm
Quote from: Nico86 on February 10, 2011, 15:45:03 pm
About spark plugs, Bosch W7AC/NGK B6HS or W8AC ??

...and a few questions keep coming as I'm making the list of parts to buy...  Tongue

> About valves, Berg ones  http://www.geneberg.com/cat.php?cPath=6_184_2777  or Bugpack stainless-steel  http://www.vwparts.net/BP4045.html ??

...aaaaaaand a third thing...  Grin

Someone can give me an e-mail address to contact DPR ? I tried from their website past week, but have no reply. Thanks.  Wink
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« Reply #228 on: February 14, 2011, 07:30:41 am »
This is what I get, maybe the same you got, I'll call them Monday and get the right one, I'm local to them, I'll get back to you with it.

dpr7149797441@hotmail.com


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« Reply #229 on: February 14, 2011, 09:16:52 am »
i used that email address too, but they never replied to me either.
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« Reply #230 on: February 14, 2011, 14:29:22 pm »
Yes that's the one that's on their website and I used too.
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« Reply #231 on: February 17, 2011, 13:44:32 pm »
Got all things figured out and all the infos I need. Ready to order parts. Just need to find a way to contact DPR and to find a VHT paint dealer in europe.

Just one last minute thought : since my heads will go to a machine shop for some little works I will use 1,25 rockers and dual springs with Engle W110. What about 1,4 rockers?? Is that good even with 35.5x32 valves?? Too much (too high rpms for the engine)?? Will it imply many more modification to the rest of the engine?
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« Reply #232 on: February 17, 2011, 13:58:42 pm »
The 110 isn't designed for 1.4 rockers. Do you have a cam yet?
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« Reply #233 on: February 17, 2011, 14:09:44 pm »
Not yet, oh yes I will need another cam you're right.  Undecided
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« Reply #234 on: February 17, 2011, 14:44:08 pm »
Keep it simple, Nico. Stock ratio rockers, stock size valves, single HD springs Wink
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« Reply #235 on: February 17, 2011, 15:10:02 pm »
Yep I have to stop asking myself questions and start working, or I will never have it done  Grin
Just wondering if it could get the engine "less flat", but choosing another cam is boring.
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« Reply #236 on: February 18, 2011, 15:53:07 pm »
Ok I promise : after that I will stop thinking and start doing something!  Embarrassed Grin

What about choosing a cam that can work with either 1.1 and 1.25 and 1.4 rockers, like SLR XV series http://www.vwparts.net/SLRCAM.html ??

Then I could try different ratio-rockers/springs if what I have is not satisfying...
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« Reply #237 on: February 18, 2011, 18:11:02 pm »
go in your garage Nico... , to much question are not good , have a good work  , you can call me if you want .
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« Reply #238 on: February 18, 2011, 19:17:48 pm »
Yep, you're right Stef! I'd better stick with what was planned. I will call you soon, because I will need infos for the parts that are going to the machine shop.
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« Reply #239 on: February 18, 2011, 20:26:58 pm »
Parts ordered.. Oh well...  Undecided  Grin
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