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« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2010, 02:00:14 am » |
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that's the Cly head and case unit only. mom uses the cleaner unit. yea i gusse it could use a SPIT SHINE. .UD.
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« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2010, 03:25:56 am » |
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I take it useing that heating plate, You never have anything on the back burner ? Looks great jeff ! One question on getting the valve to line with seat, Your not useing a hand drill right ?
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« Reply #32 on: December 07, 2010, 04:01:50 am » |
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.010 press [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] UD.
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« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2010, 07:49:38 am » |
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did the ex seat install this afternoon. 12/7/10. ex seat size 1.630/375 tall. UD.
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« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2010, 07:53:12 am » |
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« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2010, 20:49:31 pm » |
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Don't you cool down the seats and cut them for inside diameter before installing them ?
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« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2010, 22:50:41 pm » |
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boring the int seats out for the proper port to seat alinment with out welding or plastic.
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« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2010, 00:12:18 am » |
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Really finding it interesting seeing what goes into turning a set of castings into a working set of heads, great stuff UD thanks for sharing it!
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« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2010, 05:56:12 am » |
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ok there ready for the porting bench.   UD . |
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« Reply #39 on: December 10, 2010, 20:28:13 pm » |
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« Reply #40 on: December 10, 2010, 20:31:49 pm » |
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« Reply #41 on: December 10, 2010, 22:55:19 pm » |
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ummm....buddy.....there is only one pair their i see....dont forget the other pair.....after all you have two hands dont you....one grinder in each....ill bring the monster/red bull for ya.....haha jk ...
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« Reply #42 on: December 11, 2010, 02:00:46 am » |
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Hi UD! Is the head in the background on the stovetop from cheese country? Keep on keeping on bud.  |
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« Reply #43 on: December 11, 2010, 03:30:50 am » |
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Hey there farmer long time.yea those are from velveta ville. Ill be takeing some picturs of those soon as well.good see N ya.take care.
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« Reply #44 on: December 12, 2010, 00:17:46 am » |
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making some CONSERVTIVE intake chips . UD .
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« Reply #45 on: December 13, 2010, 23:35:15 pm » |
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as some of you already know these heads are not perfect out of the box. what ACVW head is. this is an area to me any way that i want to refine a little better. so i did and the result is a better transition from the top of the port to the seat. i feel better now i can move onward. X MARKS THE SPOT. UD .
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« Reply #46 on: December 13, 2010, 23:43:38 pm » |
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will probebly catch some cr!!p for those shots oh well. i would be lying to you if i said everything was all ROSEY. maybe if you had a HAIR DRYER ON TOP it wouldent care. UD .
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« Reply #47 on: December 16, 2010, 23:46:29 pm » |
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Good Job I did the same thing on my angle flows a couple monthes ago, and also added some flanges on the intake and exhaust ports... I'm stacked for the moment because I am still waiting for 54x40 Ti valves from DRD to continue!!! more pic http://blackhands.skynetblogs.be/2854-cc/Cédric |
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« Reply #48 on: December 17, 2010, 06:58:32 am » |
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looking good there cedric. looks like you have some nice tools to get the job done. thanks for sharing . UD . |
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« Reply #49 on: December 17, 2010, 09:29:07 am » |
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thx Jeff
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« Reply #50 on: December 17, 2010, 10:07:33 am » |
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Sweet lord that is some HUGE intakes pig 1200. How big is the intake valve and how high up the rpms do you plan to go to make them work?
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« Reply #51 on: December 17, 2010, 10:19:58 am » |
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Sweet lord that is some HUGE intakes pig 1200. How big is the intake valve and how high up the rpms do you plan to go to make them work?
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« Reply #52 on: December 17, 2010, 11:05:15 am » |
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It`s not gonna work unless you put some air in the mix Let`s play around with JPM`s formulas and constants just for fun. Looking at the pictures I assume that the narrowest area in the port will be the intake valve and it is quite easy to find out how much rpm a valve will be good for: RPM = 3300000 x Port dia x Port dia / Bore x Bore x Stroke We can play around with different port sizes starting with 88% of the smallest area in the port. 50mm valve x 0.88 = 44mm 50mm valve x 0.90 = 45mm 50mm valve x 0.92 = 46mm 52mm valve x 0,88 = 45.8mm 52mm valve x 0.90 = 46.8mm 52mm valve x 0.92 = 47.8mm 101.6 x 101.6 x 88 = 908385 50mm valve calculations: 3300000 x 44 x 44 / 908385 = 7033 rpms 3300000 x 45 x 45 / 908385 = 7356 rpms 3300000 x 46 x 46 / 908385 = 7687 rpms 52mm valve calculations: 3300000 x 45.8 x 45.8 / 908385 = 7620 rpms 3300000 x 46.8 x 46.8 / 908385 = 7956 rpms 3300000 x 47.8 x 47.8 / 908385 = 8300 rpms This is the rpms where the engine will peak - in theory. Now that we have the rpms we`re able to find the HP with a new formula: HP = Displ x rpm x Bmep / 910 50mm intake valve: 2.854 x 7033 x 12.5 / 910 = 275hp 2.854 x 7356 x 12.5 / 910 = 288hp 2.854 x 7687 x 12.5 / 910 = 301hp 52mm intake valve: 2.854 x 7620 x 12.5 / 910 = 298hp 2.854 x 7956 x 12.5 / 910 = 311hp 2.854 x 8300 x 12.5 / 910 = 325hp Fun isn`t it. Best rgs BB |
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« Reply #53 on: December 17, 2010, 12:29:51 pm » |
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I just noticed that pig1200 is waiting for some 54mm titanium valves. Let us still consider that the valve represents the narrowest area in the intake port: 54mm valve x 0.88 = 47.5mm 54mm valve x 0.90 = 48.6mm 54mm valve x 0.92 0 49.7mm 101.6 x 101.6 x 88 = 908385 3300000 x 47.5 x 47.5 / 908385 = 8196 rpms 3300000 x 48.6 x 48.6 / 908385 = 8580 rpms 3300000 x 49.7 x 49.7 / 908385 = 8973 rpms HP = Displ x rpm x Bmep / 910 2.854 x 8196 x 12.5 / 910 = 321hp 2.854 x 8580 x 12.5 / 910 = 336hp 2.854 x 8973 x 12.5 / 910 = 351hp Now we`re talking So if pig1200 opens up the intake to 49.7mm (92% of the 54mm valve) and is able to rev the 2.8l engine up to 8973 rpms it should in theory produce a wopping 351hp or 123hp pr litre. If it was as easy to build a engine like that as it is to calculate the effect I guess everyone would have done it. Sorry for all the bla bla bla.. Best rgs BB |
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« Reply #54 on: December 17, 2010, 12:46:29 pm » |
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I got 4 inc bore case and piston set from Jeff. Very accurate with what i need....very well prepared and exact deck height. i would get second case soon after year end
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« Reply #55 on: December 17, 2010, 19:49:40 pm » |
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Nice calculations Kalle! Now all he needs on that motor is a hairdryer |
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« Reply #56 on: December 17, 2010, 20:32:09 pm » |
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Cedric, Bi-Turbo and 8 Injectors ? |
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« Reply #57 on: December 17, 2010, 23:00:12 pm » |
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my original 187 inch 52x38 port job. this port originally was the big round until i added a LITTLE material 360 of the port. rpm from 1500 to 5900 chaise dyno was 215hp and 215tq with 51.5 Ida,s. 91Oct 10.2 comp fk44 cam.
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« Reply #58 on: December 18, 2010, 12:27:31 pm » |
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what kind of advantage takes the angled exhaust channel in this head against the a superflow head? Some work on a header kann take this angle too .
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« Reply #59 on: December 18, 2010, 16:13:42 pm » |
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I would think one of the main advantages is less heat absorbed into the head in the exhaust port because the gasses aren't being constricted through as sharp of a bend; ~45* versus 90* on a superflo.
Also, having tested a pair of these on a flowbench, I can tell you the exhaust port flows VERY well and unrestricted with minimal work ... that's why they're popular with the turbo crowd.
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