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« Reply #240 on: July 06, 2012, 16:44:24 pm »

got a fair bit done today manged to get the air ride to work how i wanted

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first trailer goes from lowest point to ride height then i step on, ride compensates for extra weight, i get off and air ride lowers back to set ride height

the relays i need to tidy this up a abit Smiley



valve block this would be easy to get to work on a bug or a bus Smiley



compressor its very small its CFM is low but will do for this ok



and every work shop needs a vise



fingesr crossed i will get time to paint the chassis this weekend then i can puty the top on monday

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« Reply #241 on: July 06, 2012, 19:35:59 pm »

I like this topic  Grin

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« Reply #242 on: July 06, 2012, 20:36:59 pm »

not only building a full on race car now probably the most advanced trailer outside of eddie stobbarts... very impressive  Wink
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« Reply #243 on: July 07, 2012, 15:56:28 pm »

I like this topic  Grin

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cheers thanks Smiley
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« Reply #244 on: July 07, 2012, 15:57:07 pm »

not only building a full on race car now probably the most advanced trailer outside of eddie stobbarts... very impressive  Wink

cheers thanks its deffo a one off  Grin

right so on with handbrake today







seemed to have missed a few steps ot here but a hand brake



breakaway cable point




hand brake working

http://youtu.be/ZaMPpB0Iuz8

looking like a trailer chassis now



getting fed up with this bit know i want to get the body on and get back on with the car so it can go to paint so close now fingers crossed i may get time to paint the chassis tmw

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« Reply #245 on: July 09, 2012, 07:58:51 am »

That's an impressive rig!

What body do you have in mind for it?
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« Reply #246 on: July 09, 2012, 11:01:23 am »

That's an impressive rig!

What body do you have in mind for it?

thanks this





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« Reply #247 on: July 11, 2012, 16:02:30 pm »

Chassis painted at last with epoxy mastic



Even got time to fix a broken genset I got as a spares or repair only cost £82 for the parts to fix



So fingers crossed I can put the body on tmw and get back on with the car Smiley

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« Reply #248 on: July 11, 2012, 22:32:49 pm »

bloody hell andy you can run the pod on that  Cheesy
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« Reply #249 on: July 12, 2012, 16:50:28 pm »

bloody hell andy you can run the pod on that  Cheesy

i think it will boil the kettle lol

well its on Smiley needs moving along a bit but i will do that back at the workshop Smiley



got to make the front end look pretty and get rid of the wheel arches



i also dint take into account the wheel ET as i didnt have any at the time and didnt think of of luckely it fits JUST but i will need 5mm spacers each side to clear, then i can start on the inside



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« Reply #250 on: July 14, 2012, 08:58:36 am »

Have the men in white coats paid you a visit yet?  Grin

Pretty funky trailer... How are you going to kit the inside? Bed etc. ?
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« Reply #251 on: July 14, 2012, 19:10:50 pm »

Have the men in white coats paid you a visit yet?  Grin

Pretty funky trailer... How are you going to kit the inside? Bed etc. ?

I'm not sure they know we're I live lol, I'm not sure what's going inside yet as there will only just be room for the car. It will have a genny and compressor the front part will be for tools etc. I've got a 4.5m wind out awning with sides for the car to go under

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« Reply #252 on: July 17, 2012, 17:42:06 pm »

well i got the trailer back to the workshop it towed well the air suspension helped im sure with that. It took ages to get the body on square its a big lump to move about then tested the unloading postion still not sure if im going to use that as it looks a little dangerous lol.



removed the inner arches



im going to trailer board this out so i can it the generator on



dont know why but i like the roller shutter lol



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« Reply #253 on: July 23, 2012, 17:39:34 pm »

bit more done

fiited the awning



started to bourd the trailer





but ran out as my last sheet was delaminating Sad



and fitted the part were the gen set will live



fingers crossed i may have some engine news later this week but we will see what happens

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« Reply #254 on: July 27, 2012, 18:22:38 pm »

After two days of filling sanding starting to look like the arse of a caravan was supposed to be on here lol





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« Reply #255 on: July 27, 2012, 18:53:20 pm »

Engine news Andy ?!?!  Grin
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« Reply #256 on: July 27, 2012, 19:02:20 pm »

Engine news Andy ?!?!  Grin

News is back to the last plan with a slight change as the sale of he motor I was going to buy fell through Sad so its

JPM heads vale train and cam
Pauter block
Rods ? Any ideas I may order Pauter at the same time as the block

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« Reply #257 on: July 27, 2012, 19:08:31 pm »

Engine news Andy ?!?!  Grin

News is back to the last plan with a slight change as the sale of he motor I was going to buy fell through Sad so its

JPM heads vale train and cam
Pauter block
Rods ? Any ideas I may order Pauter at the same time as the block

Cheers andy

Oh well plan B then  Cheesy Errm I used to run Pauter Race Rods -very nice but bulky in the stock case but I guess no probs in the Pauter Block. Are Carillo still considered as good as they get ? I currrently have CB race rods - JMR suggestion at the time as he rated them but maybe a s a budget choice ?

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« Reply #258 on: July 27, 2012, 19:13:03 pm »

As long as they can take 2.5 bar of boost lol
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« Reply #259 on: August 01, 2012, 07:32:20 am »

Amazing trailer!

Oh, and the Beetle build is cool too...  Grin

I look forward to updates!
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« Reply #260 on: August 01, 2012, 18:32:58 pm »

Amazing trailer!

Oh, and the Beetle build is cool too...  Grin

I look forward to updates!

Cheers buddy thanks  Grin


So close now it's dragging been doing somthing on this nearly everyday for two months lol

Arch gone making the fenders on Friday then I will take it home and do the electrics



Bit more flatting and then top coat I think



Boarded out the front and filled with 10 kg of 2 part foam




Can't wait to get back on the car

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« Reply #261 on: August 06, 2012, 19:45:08 pm »

Yes it's finished apart from wiring up some lights so the end of the building so I can get back on the car





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« Reply #262 on: August 06, 2012, 20:07:45 pm »

looks great mate now get back on with the car  Cheesy
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« Reply #263 on: August 07, 2012, 08:33:30 am »

Outstanding  Grin!!!!

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« Reply #264 on: August 07, 2012, 17:59:48 pm »

cheers guys thanks Smiley

so back on with the car Smiley

moved the rear a arms over by 70mm each side as the axles were going to be very short andy i need to get rid of the spacers



also thought of this idea not sure if its a good one or not, the way i see it on launch the torsion tube takes a fair bit of load  to ive but this 20mm CDS to transfer some of that load what does anybody else think am i barking up the wrong tree?

next on to some more electronics ive found these from as jaguar
X350 they are suspension height sensors and put out a 0-5v so i can put them into the data logger to measure what the suspension does










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« Reply #265 on: August 07, 2012, 19:30:53 pm »

also thought of this idea not sure if its a good one or not, the way i see it on launch the torsion tube takes a fair bit of load  to ive but this 20mm CDS to transfer some of that load what does anybody else think am i barking up the wrong tree?

cheers andy

nope,its needed,it will flex,I have mine tied up to the roll cage,where the harness bar and door bars meet the main hoop so they all provide the rigidity needed

I dont know who big tube you are using on all your suspension links but start thinking alongs the lines of what power you are going to put through it,anything not strong enough will flex and cause all sorts of strange handling issues,and also you need to think of how much tyre you have to put under there now to get that power down,I dont want to encourage you to change anything Grin   but you proberly need to re think some of it to make sure its good enough Smiley

That engine is a serious pice of kit Cool

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« Reply #266 on: August 07, 2012, 19:52:28 pm »

Cheers Ritchie

The main tube on the suspension is 1 1/2 thick wall CDS the rose joints are M22. The tie rods to the a arms are 20mm thick wall CDS. The cage is CroMo tied to the chassis spine, shock towers and forks in four places. All suspension mounts are from 8mm now you know I'm not afraid of change so what else should I add I don't want to break it lol

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« Reply #267 on: August 08, 2012, 09:25:16 am »

Cheers Ritchie

The main tube on the suspension is 1 1/2 thick wall CDS the rose joints are M22. The tie rods to the a arms are 20mm thick wall CDS. The cage is CroMo tied to the chassis spine, shock towers and forks in four places. All suspension mounts are from 8mm now you know I'm not afraid of change so what else should I add I don't want to break it lol

Cheers andy
That all sounds nice and strong

What "I" would change

The length of the trailing arms,the idea is great but they are short,Mike lawless's car works with it but he has a limited amount of hp/torque,I would cut off the torsion housing and stretch the arms to the bottom of the main hoop and make a mounting point from there,basically backhalf the car,it can be done with a short arm[springplates like the Skinne car or Russ fellows,even my old cabrio] but you are limited by it then.

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Actually I wouldnt,I would run it as a springplate car,but i am stupid and like the element of suprise[will it go down the track or will it crash] Shocked Grin

You need to think "race car" not "modified road car" Shocked Smiley  with that engine and make room for a 10"wide slick


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« Reply #268 on: August 08, 2012, 10:56:42 am »


That all sounds nice and strong

What "I" would change

The length of the trailing arms,the idea is great but they are short,Mike lawless's car works with it but he has a limited amount of hp/torque,I would cut off the torsion housing and stretch the arms to the bottom of the main hoop and make a mounting point from there,basically backhalf the car,it can be done with a short arm[springplates like the Skinne car or Russ fellows,even my old cabrio] but you are limited by it then.

Note:
Actually I wouldnt,I would run it as a springplate car,but i am stupid and like the element of suprise[will it go down the track or will it crash] Shocked Grin

You need to think "race car" not "modified road car" Shocked Smiley  with that engine and make room for a 10"wide slick


cheers richie
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ok im not sure if i could lengthen them now but they are the same length as a spring plate ive made it sofar for 8.5" slicks so they maybe to small have you any links or pictures i can see to get a better idea

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« Reply #269 on: August 08, 2012, 11:48:19 am »


That all sounds nice and strong

What "I" would change

The length of the trailing arms,the idea is great but they are short,Mike lawless's car works with it but he has a limited amount of hp/torque,I would cut off the torsion housing and stretch the arms to the bottom of the main hoop and make a mounting point from there,basically backhalf the car,it can be done with a short arm[springplates like the Skinne car or Russ fellows,even my old cabrio] but you are limited by it then.

Note:
Actually I wouldnt,I would run it as a springplate car,but i am stupid and like the element of suprise[will it go down the track or will it crash] Shocked Grin

You need to think "race car" not "modified road car" Shocked Smiley  with that engine and make room for a 10"wide slick


cheers richie

ok im not sure if i could lengthen them now but they are the same length as a spring plate ive made it sofar for 8.5" slicks so they maybe to small have you any links or pictures i can see to get a better idea

cheers Andy
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