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Neil Davies
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« Reply #60 on: March 02, 2012, 13:56:40 pm »

Hi Neil,

That info is all very interesting indeed.

Danny's car was recently run up on a Dyno Dynamics Rolling Road which seem to be becoming more popular in the South East anyway, alledgedly for accuracy and consistency.

I agree with you the numbers are intresting and it's nice to have big one's but the real deal is as you say to endure your motor is performing as well as it can be efficiency wise etc.

My old JMR 2276 made 201 bhp at the flywheel no cooling on John's Stuska dyno. Within a week or two I took the bug down to Power Engineering and had it rolling roaded just for comparison and we got 202 bhp calculated at the flywheel with if memory serves 165 bhp at the wheels so nearly a 40 bhp loss through the transmission.

For those racing with cooling attached ( fanbelts ) the anount of power they sap varies and seems relative to the amount of power the engine produces - in general the more the engine makes the higher the losses seen to drive the fan.

On my new motor fitted with a "power pulley" this saps 14 bhp when belt is fitted.

You Raise another point here Shane, I didn't run cooling at all - when I had the little 1600 in the car I found that it made around 4/10th difference - yes, it was only in the high 15's, but with the belt on it wouldn't get out of the 16's at all.
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« Reply #61 on: March 10, 2012, 19:58:51 pm »

yes i had a 25 shot in it and had backed the coilovers off a bit it was still bouncing all the way but not as bad made for an interesting run  Cheesy

Do some work on the engine and you do not need any NOS  Wink
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« Reply #62 on: March 26, 2012, 09:58:55 am »

Car looked really good at the show. Congrats.
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« Reply #63 on: March 26, 2012, 18:44:21 pm »

Car looked really good at the show. Congrats.
thanks  Grin i polished it as well Cheesy
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« Reply #64 on: March 26, 2012, 19:56:09 pm »

Car looked really good at the show. Congrats.
thanks  Grin i polished it as well Cheesy
who polished it?Huh? Tongue
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« Reply #65 on: March 26, 2012, 20:49:07 pm »

 Cheesy you did  Grin but to be fair it was dirty when i got there and i did give it a once over  Wink
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« Reply #66 on: May 15, 2012, 20:08:02 pm »



 Grin Cool
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« Reply #67 on: May 16, 2012, 13:49:13 pm »

Lovely!
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« Reply #68 on: May 26, 2012, 22:38:59 pm »

bit better today 11.54 @118mph  Cool
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« Reply #69 on: May 27, 2012, 09:07:15 am »

Good work Danny, that's really cooking for a n/a motor  Cool
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« Reply #70 on: May 27, 2012, 22:55:59 pm »

11.45@119.5mph today  Cool Cool
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« Reply #71 on: May 28, 2012, 08:50:55 am »

Congrats Danny, well deserved mate.
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« Reply #72 on: May 28, 2012, 11:39:41 am »


Well done Danny. You ran good numbers all weekend and deserve to with all the effort you put in to your racing. 11.45, wow and I'm sure your going to continue to set new pb's on a regular basis   Grin
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« Reply #73 on: July 15, 2012, 19:15:29 pm »

went to dragstalgia this weekend pissed with rain saturday but sunday was awesome had  runs 2 with the brakes rubbing on new drums  Roll Eyes 12.32 Embarrassed,11.49,   11.35 Grin
11.04 @121.5mph  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin  then got all nervous thinking the next run would be a 10 so i cocked up the launch and ran 11.2 Cheesy last run was a 11.09
all in all a great day and very close to a 10  Shocked Cool Cool
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« Reply #74 on: July 15, 2012, 19:25:59 pm »

It was a good day, I'm knackerd lol
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« Reply #75 on: July 15, 2012, 21:39:39 pm »

thanks again for your help andy  Cool
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« Reply #76 on: July 27, 2012, 18:56:21 pm »

few passes at shakey on sunday track wasnt good as i couldnt get the car to hook up  but ran 11.03 @124.5mph so another small increase  Smiley
got the car booked in at power engineering to get the map altered to run on race fuel and im going to get the nitrous jetted properly as well Smiley
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« Reply #77 on: July 27, 2012, 18:59:03 pm »

few passes at shakey on sunday track wasnt good as i couldnt get the car to hook up  but ran 11.03 @124.5mph so another small increase  Smiley
got the car booked in at power engineering to get the map altered to run on race fuel and im going to get the nitrous jetted properly as well Smiley

Oooshhhh tens here we come Smiley
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« Reply #78 on: July 27, 2012, 19:10:26 pm »

few passes at shakey on sunday track wasnt good as i couldnt get the car to hook up  but ran 11.03 @124.5mph so another small increase  Smiley
got the car booked in at power engineering to get the map altered to run on race fuel and im going to get the nitrous jetted properly as well Smiley

C'mon you bad boy let's be 'avin those tens now please  Grin and less whinging about crappy tracks and messed up launches !  Wink  Cheesy
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« Reply #79 on: July 27, 2012, 19:13:43 pm »

It's because I wasn't there lol
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« Reply #80 on: July 27, 2012, 19:31:37 pm »

next time  Cheesy
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« Reply #81 on: August 03, 2012, 22:56:32 pm »

a slowmom vid of the car hooking up at the pod at dragstalgia when i say hooking up i mean taking small chunks of track on the header  Cheesy
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/l3BWLQPVvBQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/l3BWLQPVvBQ</a>
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« Reply #82 on: August 03, 2012, 23:58:44 pm »

Whaa that's crazy  Grin
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« Reply #83 on: August 04, 2012, 08:01:25 am »

a slowmom vid of the car hooking up at the pod at dragstalgia when i say hooking up i mean taking small chunks of track on the header  Cheesy
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/l3BWLQPVvBQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/l3BWLQPVvBQ</a>

edited and replied as a pm instead Wink

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« Reply #84 on: August 08, 2012, 19:08:08 pm »

went to the rollers today fitted 65rwhp jets and had the map adjusted for race fuel car made another 20hp after work and even made another 2hp na over pump gas even with 4 deg retard  Cheesy so looking forward to some testing at the pod on saturday Cheesy
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« Reply #85 on: August 08, 2012, 22:07:07 pm »

went to the rollers today fitted 65rwhp jets and had the map adjusted for race fuel car made another 20hp after work and even made another 2hp na over pump gas even with 4 deg retard  Cheesy so looking forward to some testing at the pod on saturday Cheesy

So what whp are you making now and does it include the nos?
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« Reply #86 on: August 08, 2012, 22:12:41 pm »

176 na with belt on and 255 on the bottle the dyno is a bit tight on the numbers shane did a power run on the same dyno then went to another one and i think he made 18 more on the other one?
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« Reply #87 on: August 09, 2012, 09:06:11 am »

Looking forward to hearing how you get on with this now Danny!
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« Reply #88 on: August 09, 2012, 09:39:14 am »

176 na with belt on and 255 on the bottle the dyno is a bit tight on the numbers shane did a power run on the same dyno then went to another one and i think he made 18 more on the other one?

Yep as Danny says, I did back to back dyno rolling road sessions. No changes to set up at all. Both Dyno Dynamics rollers but the one Danny uses has a different newer software package and tends to read low compared to bhp figures previously achieved at other rolling roads. Even the technician where Danny goes says across a broad spectrum of cars his customers report this dyno seems to read around 15 bhp low as a calculated flywheel figure. My own car read 184 bhp flywheel ( with cooling attached ) and muffler at this road then read 200 bhp at the other dyno dynamics road. So I noted a 16 bhp difference.

If you apply that to Danny's figures his 176 bhp flywheel figure becomes 192 bhp which would seem about what you would expect with his spec 2276 efi motor n/a. Therefore his NOS figure with 65 hp jets of 255 becomes 271 bhp at flywheel on gas.
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« Reply #89 on: August 09, 2012, 18:17:01 pm »

Looking forward to hearing how you get on with this now Danny!
as long as it makes the bloody thing go 4hundreths faster ill be over the flipping moon Grin
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