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« on: March 01, 2012, 02:35:01 am » |
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Yes, you read that right. In an unrelated court case with the recent closure of Irwindale Speedway, the 1/4-mile drag strip at the California Motor Speedway has closed. This could mean that the up-coming Bug-In, slated for Sunday, April 29 could be cancelled. Issues with excessive noise and complaints from local businesses are said to be at the heart of the closure. From what we have heard, the track has to build a massive 1700-foot sound wall along the backside of the track to reduce the noise exposure. And that million dollar wall will take time to build! During the past one month, the VW industry has lost three major events in the Southern California area! Yikes.
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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2012, 03:21:19 am » |
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Let's all think positive.
Off their Website:
A Superior Court has suspended operation of the Auto Club Dragway. The suspension results from a successful challenge of a San Bernardino County sound standard by a group of concerned residents. San Bernardino County officials had approved an amendment to the County Sound Standard in 2010 to accommodate louder sound arising from races at the Dragway. The Superior Court found that the underlying Environmental Impact Report which the County relied on to approve the sound standard amendment was not sufficient.
We are currently reviewing the court ruling and evaluating our options moving forward. We hope to have more detailed information about our future operations at the Dragway soon.
The NHRA Street Legal Drags on Saturday, March 3rd will be canceled.
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2012, 03:38:33 am » |
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Yes, you read that right. In an unrelated court case with the recent closure of Irwindale Speedway, the 1/4-mile drag strip at the California Motor Speedway has closed. This could mean that the up-coming Bug-In, slated for Sunday, April 29 could be cancelled. Issues with excessive noise and complaints from local businesses are said to be at the heart of the closure. From what we have heard, the track has to build a massive 1700-foot sound wall along the backside of the track to reduce the noise exposure. And that million dollar wall will take time to build! During the past one month, the VW industry has lost three major events in the Southern California area! Yikes.
So they want a sound wall built in between the track and the railroad tracks?  Unbelievable! |
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2012, 03:52:36 am » |
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Major Bummer...
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2012, 03:58:55 am » |
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Wow! Three VW events cancelled all within a month's time.  |
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2012, 04:08:46 am » |
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What are the 3 events canceled?
Drag Day (in March) & ?
Bug In has not been canceled yet. Why don't we wait till we hear from Rich & Ron, till we speculate!
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2012, 04:19:50 am » |
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I'm with Susy... It will suck not having Drag Racing but we can still have the rest of Bug-In.
Hey Susy... maybe this will give you and Mike a chance to hang with us!
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2012, 05:36:23 am » |
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2012, 05:39:11 am » |
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This really sucks, well, it's time to put in our streetable motor's now, or start getten trailers for Sac, or Phoenix, OH!, they may shut that down too! The really bad thing is that some racers may start street racing, and that is not good. Well, lets see what happens like Suzy says, you never know, somebody may get Irwindale and start it up again, and Fontana may solve there issues. Wouldn't throw the towel in yet!
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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2012, 06:04:03 am » |
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Once an EIR has been drafted, it can be a thousand pages, or so. It needs to be filed, and a minimum of 45 days must pass to prepare for public hearings. This is the minimum. This is also the draft version, not the follow up versions, or the final versions. I don't think the courts or the EPA could care less that it might interfere with a VW event. I doubt the engineering and wind sheer studies of a retaining wall, let alone the construction would be done in eight weeks. Of, course, they can't even start that until the EIR is done. Well, maybe they'll get a judge that's a race fan...
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2012, 08:30:28 am » |
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I just had take my flight ticket for bug-in
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2012, 08:37:04 am » |
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So they want a sound wall built in between the track and the railroad tracks? Unbelievable!
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2012, 08:39:44 am » |
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My concern is with the possible closing of these tracks; there will be a rise in illegal street racing. Its time to change over to cheater slicks. Woohoo!
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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2012, 08:50:34 am » |
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When was Fontana Raceway built? People who bought or build a house nearby should know that a racetrack means some noise...
It's like people who buy a house near an airport and then complain about planes...
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« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2012, 09:01:29 am » |
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Solution : "VOLTS"wagens , they are quiet , everybody wants em...................... sorry , I just had to.  |
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« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2012, 13:39:47 pm » |
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I just had take my flight ticket for bug-in
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Aww sorry to hear that. Change the flight for The Classic instead  |
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« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2012, 16:48:19 pm » |
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I think that's what I may have to do also. |
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« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2012, 17:13:49 pm » |
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When was Fontana Raceway built? People who bought or build a house nearby should know that a racetrack means some noise...
It's like people who buy a house near an airport and then complain about planes...
To my knowledge the current track (drag strip) is at least the second one with the Fontana name attached. Back in the '60's I use to go to what I believe was the "original" Fontana Drag Strip and it was a a terrible place. There were holes so large in the pit area the joke was you could loose you car in one. The bathrooms were ALWAYS flooded and safety was not a concern as you could stand right along the strip from beginning to end with only the guard rail for protection. None of that mattered much as we always had a great time.
Over those years I saw many a famous car and names make the pass. Here is a link that shows some photos of the old place: http://www.standard1320.com/1320History/Tracks/Tracks.html |
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« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2012, 18:09:06 pm » |
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When was Fontana Raceway built? People who bought or build a house nearby should know that a racetrack means some noise...
It's like people who buy a house near an airport and then complain about planes...
The (oval) track was opened in (I think) '97. The drag strip opened later. It was first on the front side of the track and was later moved to it's present location in '02 |
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« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2012, 19:23:26 pm » |
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« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2012, 21:42:51 pm » |
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LMAO!! Thanks for that |
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« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2012, 01:31:05 am » |
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I've always wondered how it is that Pomona is able to remain open with its nearby neighborhoods and businesses. Granted they only have two events per year, but still.
As for the comment above about people moving in after the track and knowing that there's noise, well.... Remember El Toro Marine Base? The flight path became hillside homes and pretty soon the lawyers started lawyering and the rest is history. Riverside, Fontana, Irwindale, Palmdale/Antelope Valley, and the many, many others that wound up closing due in part to noise.
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« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2012, 03:57:45 am » |
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Why is it always dragstrips and never Nascar or Formula 1 type tracks ?
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« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2012, 06:09:11 am » |
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Why is it always dragstrips and never Nascar or Formula 1 type tracks ?
We lost Ontario and Riverside, which hosted USAC, SCCA, NASCAR and a dragstrip. Dragstrips seem to have shallow pockets and excessive noise. When I lived in NE Santa Ana, I could hear the fuelers at OCIR under ideal weather conditions. Not to mention the smaller tax base per acre in comparison to subdivisions and retail stores. |
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« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2012, 07:21:28 am » |
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Don't forget Ascot Phil! Living in North Tustin, I could hear the OCIR "Grudge Night" cars on a good night. Anytime they ran Fuel cars, I could hear them! |
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« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2012, 11:17:23 am » |
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Don't forget Ascot Phil! Living in North Tustin, I could hear the OCIR "Grudge Night" cars on a good night. Anytime they ran Fuel cars, I could hear them! Isn't 'North Tustin' just a posh name for east Santa Ana?  |
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« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2012, 16:45:54 pm » |
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« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2012, 18:37:40 pm » |
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Don't forget Ascot Phil! Living in North Tustin, I could hear the OCIR "Grudge Night" cars on a good night. Anytime they ran Fuel cars, I could hear them! Isn't 'North Tustin' just a posh name for east Santa Ana? LOL Well yes and no. We were in an area that was not within city boundaries. We were closest to Tustin but our mailing address was actually Santa Ana since it was the closest "large" city and was where the county government was located. When my parents moved there in '62 Tustin was less than 5000 residence. Tustin was in between where we lived and the actual city of Santa Ana. Greg Bunch actually lives a few blocks from where I grew up. |
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