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Jeff68
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Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #330 on:
May 25, 2016, 13:03:57 pm »
^^^^^You got that right!! When people get in my daily driver VW Golf and see a 5 speed pattern shifter they always say - Oh.....you know how to drive with one of these things?
I remember when it was cool to know how to use a clutch and shift.... WTF? Well I already taught my 15 year old son how to drive a car with a manual transmission and I'm going to give him the Golf in a year or so......Hope knowing how to drive a car with a manual transmission aint bad for his social life....
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Fiatdude
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Posts: 1823
Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #331 on:
May 30, 2016, 02:02:10 am »
I've finished rewiring the Ghia. I found that since I had relocated the battery to the front, I had the power running from the front of the car, to the back, back to front, and then back to the back, and then back to the front..... Those little electrons were being busy little bastards.... Then add in the small wiring sizes that I had used and that were in the stock wiring harness,,, well, lets just say that it wasn't right.... So, I've added some 8 gauge power wires and sorted out everything, so we're good to go (I hope,,, LOL)
Now, on to the oil leaks.... If you remember from previous posts, I was having issues with the flares breaking/cracking on my stainless tubing....
So I started asking around trying to figure a solution for this.... I was recommended to talk to the guys at Bonaco in Ontario CA....
Bonaco Inc. - Brake lines, AN Fittings, Aluminum Fittings, PTFE Hose Ends, Carburetor fuel line kits, fuel gauges and more...
They have the trickiest tubing flare tool,,, so I got one....
I guess what makes it different is that the flare is actually has bumps/ridges on it.
OMG,,,, you should see the flares this thing makes..........
So now I just have to go around and redo all the flared ends and see if I can dry this pig up!!!!!!!!!!! Trying to talk to my buddy so I can use his shop (with a concrete floor) to do this, as my carpeted floor just doesn't like oil dripped on it.......
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spanners
Sr. Member
Posts: 286
Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #332 on:
May 30, 2016, 23:09:44 pm »
Isn't it good when a tool works properly! Looks the bizz.
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Fiatdude
Hero Member
Posts: 1823
Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #333 on:
May 31, 2016, 15:07:57 pm »
Monday, thinking I had the electrical all sorted out, I took the car out on my little 3 mile test loop I use. Left one signal and was rolling onto the throttle, trying to get my gremlins to reappear. Damn, only boosting to 4-5 pounds, double damn, forgot to plug-in the boost controller and was only running on the waste gate spring..... Turned onto a side street so I could connect it back together... As I climbed out, this new GT Mustang pulls up next to me and rolls down his window... "I usually don't stop and congratulate someone for beating me, but that little thing is fast ! Whatcha got in it??"
"Just a stocker with a little boost," I replied, "If I'd known we were racing, I would of really got after it!!!!" Hope I don't go to hell for all the little lies I tell, LMAO.
He drove away shaking his head..... Don't mess with the Air Cooled!!!!! LOL
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Chip
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Posts: 143
Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #334 on:
June 01, 2016, 04:10:36 am »
Quote from: Fiatdude on May 30, 2016, 02:02:10 am
I've finished rewiring the Ghia. I found that since I had relocated the battery to the front, I had the power running from the front of the car, to the back, back to front, and then back to the back, and then back to the front..... Those little electrons were being busy little bastards.... Then add in the small wiring sizes that I had used and that were in the stock wiring harness,,, well, lets just say that it wasn't right.... So, I've added some 8 gauge power wires and sorted out everything, so we're good to go (I hope,,, LOL)
Now, on to the oil leaks.... If you remember from previous posts, I was having issues with the flares breaking/cracking on my stainless tubing....
So I started asking around trying to figure a solution for this.... I was recommended to talk to the guys at Bonaco in Ontario CA....
Bonaco Inc. - Brake lines, AN Fittings, Aluminum Fittings, PTFE Hose Ends, Carburetor fuel line kits, fuel gauges and more...
They have the trickiest tubing flare tool,,, so I got one....
Did you actually buy the tool from them? Does it have a brand/part #?
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Last Edit: June 01, 2016, 12:54:51 pm by Chip
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Taylor
Hero Member
Posts: 577
Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #335 on:
June 02, 2016, 08:41:06 am »
I think it's the Parker 37° flaring tool.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008HQ5F1S?pc_redir=T1
I've seen them cheaper than amazon though.
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Chip
Full Member
Posts: 143
Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #336 on:
June 02, 2016, 13:04:03 pm »
Quote from: Taylor on June 02, 2016, 08:41:06 am
I think it's the Parker 37° flaring tool. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008HQ5F1S?pc_redir=T1
I've seen them cheaper than amazon though.
That link is for a 45° tool(don't buy if building JIC/AN based fittings), also mentions soft metal tubing. Does stainless count as soft metal? Your info is helpful though, lots of other options on the site. Thank you!
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Last Edit: June 02, 2016, 15:24:41 pm by Chip
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Fiatdude
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Posts: 1823
Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #337 on:
June 02, 2016, 17:48:59 pm »
That looks very similar to what I've got -- -- and yes they are for soft metals, but the head is just pinned in placed and is easily replaced, I have a spare.... and the heads I have are 37*
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Fiatdude
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Posts: 1823
Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #338 on:
June 09, 2016, 05:23:05 am »
As life goes -- so do our toys --
The Ghia is for sale for $16,500 --
I believe this is a really fair price knowing how much in receipts I've shredded....
all offers are welcome, but please don't embarrass yourself.
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Fiatdude
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Posts: 1823
Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #339 on:
August 20, 2016, 06:40:28 am »
Tuner leaned out the engine, then noticed a loss of power -- I said thank you very much, please do it again sir
But I now have a solution to this tuner shit----
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Fiatdude
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Posts: 1823
Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #340 on:
October 07, 2016, 21:33:19 pm »
Oh lets say I've gone little stupid since the last post -- -- a complete tear down, inspection/R&R of the bearings, Corilla rods, J&E pistons, new gapless rings, heads completely redone (new porting, valves, springs, heat resistance coating on the inside, heat dispersement coating on the outside, blah blah blah), new 1.4 Pauter rockers, a couple of weeks in Italy for vacation and got all the parts and pieces back from the machine shops,,, and wah-la back together as a birthday present to me.... """Oh yes dear, it shouldn't cost more than a $100 to redo the engine,,,,, cough,,, cough ,,, choke, cough....."""
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Last Edit: October 07, 2016, 21:40:39 pm by Fiatdude
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Fiatdude
Hero Member
Posts: 1823
Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #341 on:
October 12, 2016, 05:21:17 am »
Ok --- I think I got the carb intake mocked up -- this engine is starting to have more colors than an Easter Egg -- --
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Neil Davies
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Posts: 3438
Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #342 on:
October 12, 2016, 06:43:04 am »
Karmann Ghias have such a big engine bay compared to a Beetle, but you seem to be doing your best to fill every square inch of it! Mental!
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Erlend / bug66
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Posts: 958
SCC Event
Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #343 on:
October 12, 2016, 07:25:26 am »
Didn't this car have EFI?
Why the change of faith?
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Fiatdude
Hero Member
Posts: 1823
Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #344 on:
October 12, 2016, 08:28:47 am »
I've had the car tuned by three different "professional" people -- all three have just about burned the car down on the dyno's (just doing pull after pull after pull) and even running E85 being static on the rollers, it just gets hot when hitting the boost levels I had dialed in) -- So, I've got two complete EFI setups and I'm done with them -- there's a nice drag class that I can run where you can be boosted but no electronics and I've got my sights on that -----
Know any body that wants a AEM EMS4 or Electromotive TechGT system?
? I've just received both back from their factories after a quick check up..... both have everything from the crank trigger to the coils and everything in between.........
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Fiatdude
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Posts: 1823
Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #345 on:
October 14, 2016, 16:09:57 pm »
Engine is almost ready -- Just need to finish the MSD install -- I still hate crawling around the freaking cage to get to the back of the firewall LOL
I'm so over using steel braided line -- and E85 just eats them up -- I'm having to replace it almost every other year -- So now I'm using hard line when I have new installs or replacing old lines, I'm using either SS or Aluminum... AL is softer and easier to form and more forgiving than SS.....
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Chip
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Posts: 143
Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #346 on:
October 15, 2016, 03:07:37 am »
Do you use teflon lined hose or rubber? I buy from anfittingsdirect.com. They work really well, any fuel compatible. I will never touch aluminum hard line again, I had so many issues with trying to get them to seal, took so much tightening that they only lasted a couple times of being taken apart and then they were garbage. I went stainless hard lines this year, not fun to bend, but they flare so much nicer, and seal so much easier. I will only go with stainless hard and teflon lined stainless soft line from here on out. Tired of re-doing mine too.
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Fiatdude
Hero Member
Posts: 1823
Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #347 on:
October 15, 2016, 04:55:25 am »
IT'S RUNNING -- -- Fired right up -- My timing light took a dump so I was just guessing where I was at --- and was trying to guess where I was at with the fuel but it was sounding real nice.........
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Dalland
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Posts: 60
Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #348 on:
October 15, 2016, 08:33:52 am »
Quote from: Fiatdude on October 12, 2016, 08:28:47 am
I've had the car tuned by three different "professional" people -- all three have just about burned the car down on the dyno's (just doing pull after pull after pull) and even running E85 being static on the rollers, it just gets hot when hitting the boost levels I had dialed in) -- So, I've got two complete EFI setups and I'm done with them -- there's a nice drag class that I can run where you can be boosted but no electronics and I've got my sights on that -----
Know any body that wants a AEM EMS4 or Electromotive TechGT system?
? I've just received both back from their factories after a quick check up..... both have everything from the crank trigger to the coils and everything in between.........
So why don't you have a IC??
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Fiatdude
Hero Member
Posts: 1823
Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #349 on:
October 15, 2016, 18:26:12 pm »
My intake charge temps were never an issue with my water to air IC
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Dalland
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Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #350 on:
October 15, 2016, 22:37:25 pm »
Quote from: Fiatdude on October 15, 2016, 18:26:12 pm
My intake charge temps were never an issue with my water to air IC
Okey, didn't find a IC on you latest version of your engine, so asumed you never run a IC.
Do I can't understand the logic of going from efi to carb and now without an IC, sound like a major step back?
If you are tired of bugs with efi systems I understand going oldschool but if you say your engine ran hot before and you now have taken away you IC it sound like you are getting a hot problem..
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Fiatdude
Hero Member
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Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #351 on:
October 16, 2016, 03:20:35 am »
First - -- When your running a draw thru system you can't run an IC --
Second -- -- when using E85, it acts as an chemical IC. So again no IC necessary...
The temps that are high are in the angle ports heads, which are great for the track, but have always been notorious for running hot on the street... so I'm trying a few new things so that I can get the temps down for cruising on the highway or playing at the autocross...
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Fiatdude
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Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #352 on:
October 19, 2016, 17:45:15 pm »
I'm in trouble now LMAO
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/5835602250.html
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Peter
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Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #353 on:
October 19, 2016, 18:38:39 pm »
hahaha
I feel for you harold.. battleing some shit on my car for some time now so I know how you feel..
Some day we'll get it right
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Neil Davies
Hero Member
Posts: 3438
Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #354 on:
October 19, 2016, 20:59:16 pm »
Quote from: Fiatdude on October 19, 2016, 17:45:15 pm
I'm in trouble now LMAO
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/5835602250.html
[Evil thoughts] Looks like he's got a Renault Dauphine and a couple of 4CVs too - you've had a 600 so why not something different... [/Evil thoughts]
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Fiatdude
Hero Member
Posts: 1823
Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #355 on:
October 20, 2016, 05:03:42 am »
Neil, I've always had something like this in the back of my mind....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi7jydptnR0
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Neil Davies
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Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #356 on:
October 20, 2016, 06:29:09 am »
The Franklin Dauphine is pretty cool, heavily influenced by Lee Maynard from Outlaw Flat Four, who built his a couple of years earlier. There are a couple of cars I'd like to do something similar to - big VW motor in the back, tube chassis built into the monocoque, just to make people think WTF!
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Fiatdude
Hero Member
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Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #357 on:
October 24, 2016, 08:05:41 am »
Confucius says -- You definitely have an over rich condition, if you are finding pinholes in your intake by fuel squirting out.......
Words to live by if you ask me.....
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BeetleBug
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Snabba grabben...
Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #358 on:
October 24, 2016, 10:12:01 am »
Quote from: Fiatdude on October 24, 2016, 08:05:41 am
Confucius says -- You definitely have an over rich condition, if you are finding pinholes in your intake by fuel squirting out.......
Words to live by if you ask me.....
Ups.... perhaps do a pressure test?
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Fiatdude
Hero Member
Posts: 1823
Re: Karman Sutra
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Reply #359 on:
October 24, 2016, 14:11:05 pm »
I usually do,,, BUT ---LOL got in a hurry and thought I had done a good job..... Just one though sigh
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