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neil68
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« on: March 27, 2017, 05:56:04 am »
What is everyone using for manifolds with the MS230 heads and Weber IDAs?

Does anyone have any tips for porting the (CB Performance) CE manifolds to work better with MS230 heads?  I bolted on a pair of CE manifolds, back when I received my MS230 heads a few years ago, as those were the only manifolds that I could find.

However, I have since been advised that there is some porting that can be done to make CE's flow better.  It's not really feasible to send the heads and manifolds from Canada to Sweden for Johannes to work on them, so I'd like to try to clean up the manifolds myself.  Any tips would be appreciated!

Thank you.
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Neil
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2017, 08:48:37 am »
There are a better set available than the new CB CE manifolds. Old (Bugpack) Superflow manifolds have a nicer bend to it.. IIRC
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neil68
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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2017, 21:58:55 pm »
Thank you, I recall hearing about this before. I haven't seen any of the SF manifolds available, but will keep looking.
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Neil
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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2017, 22:12:01 pm »
Quote from: neil68 on March 27, 2017, 21:58:55 pm
Thank you, I recall hearing about this before. I haven't seen any of the SF manifolds available, but will keep looking.

I have one new one spare if you can find another  Smiley

cheers Richie
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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2017, 22:20:35 pm »
These any good?

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2032472
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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2017, 22:22:42 pm »
Quote from: leec on March 27, 2017, 22:20:35 pm
These any good?

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2032472

They aren't for IDAs, to close at top
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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2017, 22:50:06 pm »
Quote from: richie on March 27, 2017, 22:22:42 pm
Quote from: leec on March 27, 2017, 22:20:35 pm
These any good?

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2032472

They aren't for IDAs, to close at top

Sorry, didn't even think about that
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2017, 05:05:51 am »
I'm hoping these are the ones:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1986094
which I just bought
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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2017, 16:41:45 pm »
Quote from: ibg on March 29, 2017, 05:05:51 am
I'm hoping these are the ones:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1986094
which I just bought

They look correct Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2017, 20:31:31 pm »
Quote from: ibg on March 29, 2017, 05:05:51 am
I'm hoping these are the ones:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1986094
which I just bought

Did the seller confirm that those are Bugpack manifolds? His ad is not clear.
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Neil
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12.5 seconds @ 172 KM/H (107.5 MPH)
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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2017, 02:32:01 am »
He didn't confirm, I just took a punt.
when I get them I'll clean them and see how different they are to the CB's and if there are any markings.
I'm curious to see how well they match the port as well
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2017, 03:56:46 am »
I think they are bugpack.  The CB require a long center bolt because the flange is like an inch thick.

https://www.cbperformance.com/product-p/3141.htm
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hotstreetvw
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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2017, 03:59:34 am »
Here are the bug pack manifolds I build for my MS230 heads.  Sold now, moving to Geers 910s.

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« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2017, 02:48:15 am »
I agree, out of the Box the older Bugpack Mani is probably slightly better than the CB for shape, but if you are welding and porting you can use either.
Doesnt Johannes have manifolds?
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neil68
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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2017, 03:00:36 am »
Thanks, Darren. I was about to ask you about this. I'll send a pm later.
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Neil
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'68 Beetle, 2332 cc, 204 WHP
12.5 seconds @ 172 KM/H (107.5 MPH)
Dynojet Test:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9B_H3eklAo
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