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Erlend / bug66
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« on: August 20, 2017, 19:54:24 pm »
Is there a good thread out there?

Alunimium house I presume..

Big or small gussets?
Steel plates and bolts to hold the side plates?


Help wanted.. Snapped a gearbox in two..
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2017, 23:10:46 pm »
Wow that's some breakage Shocked
Been reading up on t2 boxes as they are stronger. What is the set up of the car?
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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2017, 14:36:22 pm »
Quote from: numbnuts on August 20, 2017, 23:10:46 pm
Wow that's some breakage Shocked
Been reading up on t2 boxes as they are stronger. What is the set up of the car?

Let's see.

Full weight 67 bug.
400whp / 535nm to the wheels.
Stage 4 + black magic
hydraulic clutch management
KCR built box on gusseted mag case, full weddle internals included what was an Weddle R&P...


Rhino case and bolted sideplates next..
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Neil Davies
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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2017, 17:36:30 pm »
Might be time to step up to a bus box. I'm sure Richie will be along shortly, but he was in a similar place back in the early '00's and he did a box virtually identical to yours.
It does mean IRS, but thats no bad thing really!
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2017, 12:57:12 pm »
For this you need a bus box with folts or rancho axles. We just got one from rancho. Complete with IRS to swing axles

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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2017, 13:24:27 pm »
Quote from: Udo on August 22, 2017, 12:57:12 pm
For this you need a bus box with folts or rancho axles. We just got one from rancho. Complete with IRS to swing axles

Udo

Does Folts axles handle 400-500 ft.lbs to the tires and sub 1,4 60-foot times?
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10.626 @ 132mph, SCC 2016
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2017, 13:27:59 pm »
And I've got a lot of swingaxle spares, so not really keen on going IRS..
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2017, 09:28:19 am »
New main gearbox will now be:

White Rhino main house
Weddle/Mendeola gear carrier housing + nosecone
Paul Guard diff
full Weddle race gear stack
Hopefully a Weddle R&P
Full circle sideplates with through bolt
Gearbox girdle/cradle thingy..


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10.626 @ 132mph, SCC 2016
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10.221 @ 135mph, SCC 2018

The '59:
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2017, 14:35:39 pm »
What were you using to control ring & pinion movement?
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2017, 14:48:30 pm »
Quote from: Dougy Dee on August 23, 2017, 14:35:39 pm
What were you using to control ring & pinion movement?

What do you mean? Gusseted mag case. But that did not hold..
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2017, 06:25:49 am »
Quote from: Erlend / bug66 on August 23, 2017, 09:28:19 am
New main gearbox will now be:

White Rhino main house
Weddle/Mendeola gear carrier housing + nosecone
Paul Guard diff
full Weddle race gear stack
Hopefully a Weddle R&P
Full circle sideplates with through bolt
Gearbox girdle/cradle thingy..


 Smiley

You should use another clutch with this ...

Udo
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2017, 06:53:19 am »
Quote from: Udo on August 24, 2017, 06:25:49 am
Quote from: Erlend / bug66 on August 23, 2017, 09:28:19 am
New main gearbox will now be:

White Rhino main house
Weddle/Mendeola gear carrier housing + nosecone
Paul Guard diff
full Weddle race gear stack
Hopefully a Weddle R&P
Full circle sideplates with through bolt
Gearbox girdle/cradle thingy..


 Smiley

You should use another clutch with this ...

Udo

As in what type?
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10.626 @ 132mph, SCC 2016
10.407 @ 134mph, SCC 2017
10.221 @ 135mph, SCC 2018

The '59:
Not yet..
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« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2017, 13:19:13 pm »
Is there such a thing available as a staged lock-up clutch (like on my bike......  http://www.mtceng.com/index.php/technical-information/7-clutch-differences  )?
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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2017, 01:22:39 am »
Quote from: modnrod on August 25, 2017, 13:19:13 pm
Is there such a thing available as a staged lock-up clutch (like on my bike......  http://www.mtceng.com/index.php/technical-information/7-clutch-differences  )?




Rev6. It's actually more similar to a gen2 multistage than a lockup or multistage  as the weights are on the engine side of the clutch, not the input shaft side.
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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2017, 04:23:07 am »
http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=89944&start=45
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