Project CFC#1, turbo, back halfed and light

[Erlend / bug66]

I recently have noticed a pretty noticeable amount of money being spent on my current car. It has been a really good car, ending up with a turbocharged 2165cc engine, going 10,4s at 130+ mph. That car will be raced out this season (when it's done..) and after that stripped of engine and gearbox, some parts I want to save and then sold as a roller race project.


I have been wondering about either re-incarnating my current car, or start on a new one. I really want a new cage, and the rear suspension is not really setup for a really fast car.

I could just re-cage it and raise and narrow the torsion, but I really want to have it with registration and insurance (for that one drive per year..). With the current MOT situation in Norway, it's doable, but from 2019 they will be even stricter. I had a plan of swapping the bottom out for a '59 plate I have, as pre-60 cars are MOT exempt in Norway.




But. Then a buddy wanted to sell his former street/race car, and a bit back and forth on the pricing and what he would keep, last night we struck the deal.


So, the current plan for the car is:

This car:

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Combined with a 8,50 chromoly cage from deep in the Swedish forests, and a RLR rear chassis kit with ladder bars and coil overs.

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3" raised and 3" narrowed per side.



Engine will be my 2165cc with a new exhaust and turbo, probably try to get 500-550whp. I have a ET in mind also



Car will be picked up after SCC, some metal cut out and driven straight to Sweden for caging!



I can't wait  

[leec]

Looks like an interesting project 

[pWolf]

Love it!

[Frallan]

Full support from me! Sounds very cool!

[Erlend / bug66]

Thanks guys, 

The easy way is to order a tube chassis, but I really want to keep the stock front part of the stock chassis.

So the rear parcel tray will be cut out, but other than that pretty much stock body.

[Erlend / bug66]

If any have links to a build thread with a pan car + ladder bars I would be greatful if you shared or pictures 

[Erlend / bug66]

Ahh


Took the old '67 to the dyno yesterday


The new intake/intercooler setup looks to be working pretty well!


Last time I dynoed the car it had 399hp and 552nm at the tires at 2,1 bars of boost. Now it has 501,5hp and 667nm of torque  



Will be a good engine to put in the new project  

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[Trond Dahl]

Just turned on notifications for this thread 

[Erlend / bug66]

Just turned on notifications for this thread 

Soon all I have originated from Stavanger

[Trond Dahl]

That's why you are drivinger faster and faster 

[Erlend / bug66]

That's why you are drivinger faster and faster 

Yes! And why you need to ship the cars to the East Cost Chapter of DKL to get your cars even faster 

[Erlend / bug66]

Hrmpf.. The backhalf kit from RLR almost doubled in price..  I guess the website hadn't been updated in a while.


So either I cough up the 5800$ for the kit (up from 3800), or I stick to torsion bars. 

[leec]

Has the car already got a cage? If so I would get a chassis builder to do the back half, I can't see that being $5800?

Lee

[Erlend / bug66]

Has the car already got a cage? If so I would get a chassis builder to do the back half, I can't see that being $5800?

Lee

No cage. It's bare inside.

THe kit from RLR is included coil overs, ladder bars, axles tubes and axles. But still 

[leec]

And the motor plates? If so when you add up those parts individually it gets expensive quickly....

[Erlend / bug66]

And the motor plates? If so when you add up those parts individually it gets expensive quickly....

And the plates. But still. I will get the cage / back half quoted here in Scandinavia

[Roope]

If any have links to a build thread with a pan car + ladder bars I would be greatful if you shared or pictures 

A few photos of my pan car build.
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[Erlend / bug66]

Thanks! Great pictures.

I have sort of the same planned 

[Erlend / bug66]

Roope:

Did you raise just the transmission? Not the frame forks?

[Roope]

Roope:

Did you raise just the transmission? Not the frame forks?

Yes i only raise transmission, about 7cm.

[Erlend / bug66]

Roope:

Did you raise just the transmission? Not the frame forks?

Yes i only raise transmission, about 7cm.

Thanks! Any pictures of the transmission mounts?

[Erlend / bug66]

Good to have Skype meetings so one can sketch up a cage solution.  

Car goes to Sweden this Saturday for cage and ladder bar work! I?m looking forward to a nice TIG welded Docol (chromoly) cage and backhalfing  

The cross tubes from main hoop to the tunnel will be welded to the side of the tunnel, not the top because of the shift linkage..

[Erlend / bug66]

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[modnrod]

Excuse me, Roope/Erland .......
What sort of spring rate and rear suspension travel are you making for the ladder bar set-up?

[Erlend / bug66]

Excuse me, Roope/Erland .......
What sort of spring rate and rear suspension travel are you making for the ladder bar set-up?

3" narrowed axles with ladder bars to the main hoop (around 32" I guess).

I will calculate the needed spring rate from the dimensions of the coil over mounting before purchasing. I need around 380 lbs/inch plus the variables (lower mounting inwards on the axle, and the angle of the coilover at ride height).

I would guess 5-550 lbs/inch

[modnrod]

  Thank you Erland.
I have a few Showa Sportsbikes rear shocks in the shed that are around that rate ......
 

[Erlend / bug66]

Thank you Erland.
I have a few Showa Sportsbikes rear shocks in the shed that are around that rate ......
 

No problem. Curious what rate I end up with. Will keep the thread updated.

[Erlend / bug66]

What we don?t do for our hobby?

This was a long, but good day! 906 kilometres over 10,5 hours driving. But the car is now delivered deep in the Swedish forests!

Started at 4.30am this morning, drank a lot of coffee, almost got to take a few deers home without a rifle, saw 2 big ass mooses and a 5-6kg capercaillie (grouse family bird, wish I brought the shotgun..), and hung out with Ola ?st for a few hours before the return drive.


The cage will be as sketched above, but with a single door bar.

We figured out that I need 32 or 33?? ladder bars, so RLR will get a call and an order on Monday. Cage will be done in Docol R8 (chromoly related steel) to keep the weight down.


Scaled the trailer with and without the car, and the car weighs 600kg now. That?s all glass and steel, minus fire wall and parcel shelf, heavy wheels and just a shortblock. 750kg wet would be cool. I guess taking the inner wheel arches, torsion and glass will remove another 40kg. So I can?t add more than 190kg. Doable I think?

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[cassa]

Good progress!  I think I have to upgrade my turbo 
https://www.precisionturbo.net/Street-and-Race/ss/1-200-1-500HP/details/Street-and-Race-Turbocharger---GEN2-PT7675-CEA/606

[Erlend / bug66]

Hah! All i did was to pick the car up and fired up the angle grinder   

But really looking forward to get the car back!


Maybe I should plan for a new turbo also