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richie
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« on: August 03, 2019, 20:47:40 pm »

got to say huge congrats to Niklas Haglund for getting his 1641cc turbo mouse engine into the 8s today at Tierp in his 60ghia, after running 9.07 yesterday and breaking the gearbox they took car apart and went home to fix the gearbox overnight and fit it back into car today, then break na axle 1st pass today and swap that out, then run the 8.89@247kmh its a truely awesome achievement, well done Niklas Cool
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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2019, 22:14:29 pm »

That is truly incredible! Well done to all concerned!  Cool
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2019, 23:08:00 pm »

Pretty much the wildest mouse alive  Grin

Weight and boost anyone?
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2019, 07:12:58 am »

very very impressive. well done
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2019, 14:02:21 pm »

Pretty much the wildest mouse alive  Grin

Weight and boost anyone?

800kg / 1765lbs
2,5+ bars / 36+ psi

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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2019, 15:56:14 pm »

Great achievement, well done!
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2019, 17:24:45 pm »

Pretty much the wildest mouse alive  Grin

Weight and boost anyone?

800kg / 1765lbs
2,5+ bars / 36+ psi

 Grin

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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2019, 19:03:21 pm »

Pretty much the wildest mouse alive  Grin

Weight and boost anyone?

800kg / 1765lbs
2,5+ bars / 36+ psi

 Grin

Are you answering your own questions now?  1st sign of madness is talking to yourself Cheesy

Yep. I found out, so thought I should enlighten everyone  Roll Eyes

The weight to power ratio looks to be pretty close to the ET calculators.
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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2019, 22:01:16 pm »

Pretty much the wildest mouse alive  Grin

Weight and boost anyone?

800kg / 1765lbs
2,5+ bars / 36+ psi

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Are you answering your own questions now?  1st sign of madness is talking to yourself Cheesy

FUNNY!

May I add that I saw a note from you Niklas about 40 psi....? A secret maybe?
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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2019, 07:55:44 am »

Actually the r/p was changed on the parking lot at BRC!
They just went home and picked up some spare parts, 140 km one way!
Impressive!
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2019, 08:22:24 am »

Congrats Niklas! Amazing! And it is so good to see you and the car back on the track again.

Funny that you was the first to post this Richie... have you become Facebook addicted like the rest of the world?  Wink

And what is the status on the rest of the TurboTown gang? This picture brings back memories, a smile and a tear at the same time:



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10.41 - 100ci - 1641ccm - 400hp
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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2019, 14:50:09 pm »

Just asking, what sort of turbo is capable of psi this high. The static compression must be real low. Mine is in the 7.5.1. range and have struggled to get a good  tune at only 15 psi.
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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2019, 15:38:38 pm »

Just asking, what sort of turbo is capable of psi this high. The static compression must be real low. Mine is in the 7.5.1. range and have struggled to get a good  tune at only 15 psi.

It's a Precision 6262
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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2019, 18:14:35 pm »

Kalle,

news like this travels fast Grin even for those of us with just a regular mobile phone without all those modern gizzmo/app things  Grin but I can see whats going on in that world via a laptop and rjvolks facebook page if I really want to Shocked Cheesy

Garrick, I would guess pretty much any turbo will make that psi if it see's enough restriction but getting the engine to live with it is another thing altogether, I have seen 48 psi on old cabrio once but heads didn't survive even to end of 2nd gear  Shocked

Niklas said it has 9/1 compression   

cheers Richie
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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2019, 10:07:12 am »

Gongratulations! Awesome car (and event)!

https://youtu.be/lXtdnBr79UE
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« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2019, 21:44:54 pm »


It's a Precision 6262
Thats ridiculous on a 1641!
You won't need that big a turbo for 500hp, but that said, a 6262 has a lot more in it then 500hp  Grin
Spools at 6K upward me thinks, so thats a real high RPM motor! I like!  Cool
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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2019, 22:49:02 pm »


It's a Precision 6262
Thats ridiculous on a 1641!
You won't need that big a turbo for 500hp, but that said, a 6262 has a lot more in it then 500hp  Grin
Spools at 6K upward me thinks, so thats a real high RPM motor! I like!  Cool

Log from Niklas. He posted it om faceballz, so I hope it’s fine to repost.

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« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2019, 23:05:13 pm »

Thats a nice picture Kalle! Patte was at BRC as well with the Fastback. He had a couple of good runs with a new PB on the 60. He lost a few nuts holding one head so he had to stop. I am still working on the new setup, but to impress anyone now I have to go crazy fast 😃. Stefan and Fredde are working on there cars as well. I believe next year can be quite interesting considering the cars that are being built.
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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2019, 07:54:41 am »

Thats a nice picture Kalle! Patte was at BRC as well with the Fastback. He had a couple of good runs with a new PB on the 60. He lost a few nuts holding one head so he had to stop. I am still working on the new setup, but to impress anyone now I have to go crazy fast 😃. Stefan and Fredde are working on there cars as well. I believe next year can be quite interesting considering the cars that are being built.

Hi Johan and thank you for the update from Turbo Town. I have always knew that Patte had a few loose nuts   Smiley

And it is also nice to see the log from the record run. Manifold Pressure 359 so max boost was  likely 2.59 (37.5 psi) bar during his record run. The log also answers Airspeed question and we can see that the 6262 does actually build boost way earlier than you would think. Go big or go home  Wink

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« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2019, 08:02:46 am »

I can't actually see which line is MAP nor a MAP scale in there, but it is a nice log and there is some great tuning in there ;-)
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« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2019, 15:56:44 pm »

Approx. 4,5sec from start to get gear # 4 in..
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« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2019, 01:10:49 am »

Hi guys , I was just wondering what 87 mm pistons and cylinders is he using that holds up to that much boost ? Are they special cylinders or power sleeved ?
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« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2019, 09:01:37 am »

Hi guys , I was just wondering what 87 mm pistons and cylinders is he using that holds up to that much boost ? Are they special cylinders or power sleeved ?

Cima power sleeved  Mahle piston  Cheesy  

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« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2019, 14:16:18 pm »

I thought the pistons were cast cofap ones Grin
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« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2019, 17:16:28 pm »

Ok , thanks .
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« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2019, 17:58:10 pm »

I think they are fooling you..

There are a lot of companys that can make special pistons. Also same for cylinders.
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