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« on: January 04, 2020, 19:56:16 pm »

Hey gents, I still have a long term project in mind.
I still would like t build a rail style dragster like the famous Berg , the Otto Bros Mosquito / Empi dragster.
Therefore I am looking for as much infos as I can get , so all buildup , rebuild pics are welcome.
Especially interested I am in how the rear track width has been adjusted and to what dimensions . Furthermore the front "beam" usually just the bar.
I dont wanna copy paste a chassis but I wanna get some good advise on the basic setup
The idea is to build it over the next years together with my sons.
My oldest one starts Jr drag racing this year .

Thanks in advance
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2020, 16:44:59 pm »

the schley dragster  a little  bigger and longer  than the mosquito and little but quick
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2020, 16:45:38 pm »

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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2020, 16:46:44 pm »

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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2020, 16:48:05 pm »

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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2020, 16:53:21 pm »

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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2020, 16:54:53 pm »

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« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2020, 17:10:52 pm »

picture i've took at the schleys museum of little but qick
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« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2020, 17:21:28 pm »

other ^pict i've took at  bug in 33 in 2008
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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2020, 17:31:49 pm »

mosquito and empi dragster at ebi
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« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2020, 23:03:08 pm »

Thanks a lot for all those pictures ! Very very cool .
As it looks , most of those cars don t have any rear suspension at all . Just mounted rigid into the frame . Or do i just dont get the setup ?


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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2020, 16:02:36 pm »

it look like that the mosquito have a rear end  frame with torsion bars and gearbox horns (hope it my explanation are  clear Grin Grin )
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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2020, 17:27:19 pm »



You are right , but on this picture it looks like it is built in “fixed” with the upper bar .
So i guess not moving at all , except a little flexing . So to me most of the rails do not have a rear suspension

I still look forward on building one of those rails one day , but with less and less placed we can race , i dont know if it is worth it Sad
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« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2020, 06:28:09 am »

De Schley Brothers rail was one of the few race cars that used a type 4 engine.
Can someone give me more insight on that engine?

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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2020, 10:49:14 am »

Rail dragster Berg / Mosquito / Empi / I now add Pank :-)
 The car was built in 1977.
It used a T1 engine with cylinders, pistons and cylinder heads from Porsche 911.
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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2020, 10:50:35 am »

How could i forged Pank ! 😂
No rear suspension either


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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2020, 10:51:54 am »

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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2020, 10:59:02 am »


I have a bit more colorful pictures on my fb album of Pank.
https://www.facebook.com/fredrik.reichel/media_set?set=a.533874296630789&type=3

The story about that engine is a bit fun too. I still have it and it runs. (Yeah, the dragster frame too)
It has been running many miles in my street car from Sweden to Italy and been a daily driver for years. Another story......

I will spend a little bit of time on this at Snow & Tell weekend now in March. "Be there or be square!"
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« Reply #25 on: February 29, 2020, 22:43:35 pm »

There was one more Rail at EBI 2019 , the rollcage looked a little more modern . If i remember right the guy was from the UK .
Can t remember his name. The rail was mostly bare metal n grey with some writings on the side . Anybody got some pics or infos about that car ?


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« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2020, 09:24:09 am »

I think you mean Graham Rawlings Little Digger?
If yes, he has an album on my Aircooled Dragsters and Rails fb site.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=oa.2760217183998631&type=3
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« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2020, 09:32:51 am »

If i remember right , little digger was the slingshot , nice car too but i thought about the other one
It was standing in front on the main EBI pic



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« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2020, 09:33:37 am »



This one


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« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2020, 10:46:30 am »

OK!  That is a new one to me. Cool!
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