1700 engines back in the day

[RFbuilt]

It was not that fast. I had stock gears in my trans with a 4.12 R&P for street driving. So, it was not killer fast.  The best I ever cranked out of it was a 15.65.  Take into consideration it was a full interior too. I did not build it to be fast...just to be a good freeway driver. With more compression, cam and 48s, obviously the motor would have come alive.

Rick M

15.6 isnt  to be laughed at!   with a w110  thats niceee

u do know, alot of newer cars today in stock form juz do high 15s and 16s ?  thats not bad..

i think i should challenge myself and tell myself to expect 15.7s  on mine hehe

[Zach Gomulka]

Any one ever hit a big bump and knock one of those suckers right off the bottom of the case?  You'd pull over, look underneath and it's hangin' like a tire swing.  Shrug shoulders... unhook the rods and throw it in the back seat.

Yup! Good analogy!!

[Neil Davies]

Any one ever hit a big bump and knock one of those suckers right off the bottom of the case?  You'd pull over, look underneath and it's hangin' like a tire swing.  Shrug shoulders... unhook the rods and throw it in the back seat.

Yup! Good analogy!!

Been there, done that...

[marc1951]

When I bought my car from Gary Reid in the early 70s, it had a 1700, 110 cam, S&S SINGLE port heads, 11 to 1, and a Holly Bug Spray (what a stupid name).  That thing was amazing! The car ran in the 15s and was a great street racer....just open the hood, wait for the suckers to laugh at your single port heads, race them and take their money.
I wish I had held onto that motor, but I wanted 48s so changed out the motor with an 1835, 130 cam, Webers, etc. (162 hp on Dean Lowry's dyno and ran a best of 13.62).....quicker but didn't have the shock value of the 1700.

Marc
DRA

[Jim Ratto]

When I bought my car from Gary Reid in the early 70s, it had a 1700, 110 cam, S&S SINGLE port heads, 11 to 1, and a Holly Bug Spray (what a stupid name).  That thing was amazing! The car ran in the 15s and was a great street racer....just open the hood, wait for the suckers to laugh at your single port heads, race them and take their money.
I wish I had held onto that motor, but I wanted 48s so changed out the motor with an 1835, 130 cam, Webers, etc. (162 hp on Dean Lowry's dyno and ran a best of 13.62).....quicker but didn't have the shock value of the 1700.

Marc
DRA

fast "small" motors... aren't they the best? My old friend, Safetyshoe, ran high compression 40 x 35, Engle 120 90.5 x 69, did 13.00's with it on MH's in his '66.

[Duck]

I really like small stroke (or 69mm stroke) motors. While it was not my first motor, my 1700 was one of the most fun and reliable motors I had built. It had an Engle 110 cam, 40mm x 35mm valve heads (home modified ports), deep sump, 69mm counterweighted crank, lightened flywheel and balanced engine assembly, full flow case, stock rockers with swivel feet, chromoly push rods, a centrifugal advance distributor we found from an early VW (#BRS 383) with a cap that the wires came out of the side, and a set of dual 44 webers.  I did not want to run IDAs on this motor at the time.  I ran a heavy duty bus pressure plate (200mm). It had an 1 1/2" merged exhaust and single quiet pack style muffler.  I ran NGK plugs in it.

It was incredibly smooth and reliable, great on road trip mileage too.  I included a shot of the motor below. It was in my white 67 my wife and I built as newlyweds in the mid 70's.

Rick Mortensen

Apologies for pulling up an old thread, I’m parts collecting at present to build a 1679 from the AE code twin port I already have in my Ghia.
Intending to flow the stock heads and use the Kadrons I already run however I’m stating to think the engle 120 I picked up recently might not be suited?
Would the 110 be a safer bet for drivability given the head/carb set up?

[Martin S.]

This engine idea was what I ordered from Berg kit in the 90s. I went with their recommendation for the 100 cam when I decided porting and Weber’s were too expensive for me. It was the classic semi hemi 7:1 bulletproof 1776.
The motor came apart shortly after that.
This time I came up with I think maybe $800 or $1000 US for the porting.(90s dollars)
No other changes except the cam which became a 110 with the extra rpm range.
Really fun motor and sounded great thru the quiet pack revving over 6k easily..
I still have all the parts stored except the case which is in my car.