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Soddli
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Thomas
Sodd-thread
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March 20, 2006, 15:23:45 pm »
Hello looka-fans.....
I thought i should start a thread about the a other old-school look here....the old european school-look
By that i am thinking of the vintage vw-racers that raced in the old days...such as this wonderfull car:
http://www.0-100.it/vw/petermax/vw-petermax_engl.htm
In the late 40's and the 50's there where many vw-specials that raced on circuits as the Avus-oval, solitude and so on.
Just have a look at the results in 1949-50 on this site:
http://www.solitude-memorial.de/idx05.htm
And i think this look is tranferable over to the beetles, there were many racers racing in the tourist-classes at the Nürburgring in the old days as a example.
I love the cal-look scene, but i also love the look and the cars that recreate the vw-racers that raced in hillclimbs, circuit racers and so on.
A look that i myself have defined as the hot-sodd :-)
That means cars that looks like they have been racing in Europe in the 50's and the 60's...racing against 356's and so on.
One perfect example is Splitmans "Thundersodder Spezialer"
As seen in this tread:
http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php?topic=40.0
I simply LOVE this car.
The look is very perfect on cars from the 50's, but would also work well on later cars.
So, do anybody have pictures or anything of other hot-sodds?
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Re: Sodd-thread
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March 21, 2006, 12:41:06 pm »
This must qualify for a Hot-Sodd!?
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Soddli
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Thomas
Re: Sodd-thread
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March 21, 2006, 12:51:15 pm »
Yes indeed! :-)
Widened porsche 5x130 porsche steel wheels.....i like it!!!!!
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Soddli
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Thomas
Re: Sodd-thread
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Reply #3 on:
March 21, 2006, 13:14:23 pm »
Another Ghia racer:
http://www.members.tripod.com/vwjudsonregister/gertskgracer.htm
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Soddli
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Re: Sodd-thread
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March 22, 2006, 12:46:54 pm »
A lot of pictures of various racers found here:
http://www.rallybugs.com
So Splitman...tell us about the "Thündersodder Spezialer"!!!!
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Jordy/DVK
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Re: Sodd-thread
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March 22, 2006, 12:55:53 pm »
Like this 356 Brezel...
http://www.christians-garage.de/brezel.html
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Soddli
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Thomas
Re: Sodd-thread
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Reply #6 on:
March 22, 2006, 13:02:17 pm »
Quote from: Jordy on March 22, 2006, 12:55:53 pm
Like this 356 Brezel...
http://www.christians-garage.de/brezel.html
Yes, that car is in the true spirit!
Wonderful car with period attitude.
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Rocket-Racing
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Re: Sodd-thread
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March 22, 2006, 18:53:31 pm »
I suppose the Inch Pincher in a very early state qualifies as a "Hot Sodd". When it was raced in Nassau by Dan Gurney the car was more of a road racer then a drag car..
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speedwell
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Re: Sodd-thread
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March 22, 2006, 22:42:16 pm »
this is the otto mathe :
http://www.schach-niggemann.de/traumauto/html/5213.html
ok it's an porsche carrera engine but it's aircolled
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SplitMan
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Re: Sodd-thread
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March 23, 2006, 10:29:58 am »
Thanks for the kind words Mr Soddli.
"Der Thundersodder Spezialer" is a zwitter first raced in 1964 in Norway. It raced road course dirt tracks and hillclimbs up until 1971 when it broke the crankshaft in two and left to die behind a barn. It had a 1300 ccm engine with a german dual carb set up, Isky camshaft and Gene Berg alu spacers with 14 inch bus wheels when last raced. The leather covered steering wheel, the vinyl-covered dashboard loaded with gauges and the bakelite pilot seat from a 1952Vampire jet fighter plane is all original and still untouched.
I "repaired" it over the last three years..new floor pans, new bottoms of heater channels, new front and rear clip. It was dented and rusted. The idea was to do as little as possible and preserve its battlescars and patina. I added some more "hot sodd" features myself as well, and painted it "dull" Massey Ferguson silver-grey with Porsche-look-alike scalloops.
The current, authentic 1600 ccm Sauer & Sohn engine (1969 blueprint says 124 HP), the Porsche 356B brakes, the decklid and DDS shifter is from another true hot-sodd racecar. A 1956 Oval that was Danish champion in it's class in 1970 and 71. Check the black and white photo below.
The idea and "attitude" behind european VW-based racecars is EXACTLY the same as the tru Cal Lookers.... buy it cheap, make it light and go fast. Do a "David vs Goliath" and beat the "big guns" with simple Porsche-Volkswagen-engineering. That is why I love both..
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SplitMan
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Re: Sodd-thread
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Reply #10 on:
March 23, 2006, 10:31:32 am »
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Christoph
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Re: Sodd-thread
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Reply #11 on:
March 23, 2006, 18:24:05 pm »
Saw the Thundersodder at Hessisch Oldendorf, really nice car. Here´s another pic of it, I took there.
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Georg/DFL
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Re: Sodd-thread
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March 23, 2006, 21:18:14 pm »
Hei Øystein,
these should be your engine specs. The price for the kit (not the whole engine) was 3295 Deutsch Mark, around 1700 Euro! A lot of money over 30 years ago!
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Georg/DFL
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Re: Sodd-thread
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March 24, 2006, 00:46:14 am »
And how about this: The Split is Graf Berghe von Trips car in a race on the legendary Nürburgring 1954. By the way: Interesting wheels and start number (was this the role model for Herbie?
)
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Georg/DFL
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Re: Sodd-thread
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March 24, 2006, 00:50:42 am »
Two more of Von Trips in the Split:
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SplitMan
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Re: Sodd-thread
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Reply #15 on:
March 24, 2006, 10:39:52 am »
Quote from: Georg/DFL on March 23, 2006, 21:18:14 pm
Hei Øystein,
these should be your engine specs. The price for the kit (not the whole engine) was 3295 Deutsch Mark, around 1700 Euro! A lot of money over 30 years ago!
Wow - great great stuff Georg! Thanks. Is this a copy of an original S&S catalog?
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Georg/DFL
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Re: Sodd-thread
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March 24, 2006, 12:59:03 pm »
Hi Øystein,
no, it's an original S&S catalog. Looks not very professionel so. I have two or three of them. Should I bring them to the Volksworld Show?
Please check your Personal Messages!
Cheers,
Georg
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Soddli
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Thomas
Re: Sodd-thread
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Reply #17 on:
March 24, 2006, 13:51:18 pm »
Very, very cool guys!!!
JHU....do you still have the inboard film by the Thundersodder spezialer filmed at our great event Bergrennen?
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Soddli
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Re: Sodd-thread
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March 24, 2006, 14:14:11 pm »
Quote from: speedwell on March 22, 2006, 22:42:16 pm
this is the otto mathe :
http://www.schach-niggemann.de/traumauto/html/5213.html
ok it's an porsche carrera engine but it's aircolled
Yes that is a uniqe racer buildt by Otto mathe...the one-armed racer.
The man had quite a collection of cars which he raced.
He had the lone typ60 K10 car:
http://www.derpca.com/Porscheforme/356-8-04.htm
And he also raced this gmund-coupe, who now belongs to Jerry Seinfeld:
http://www.pelicanparts.com/swapmeet_pics/Rennsport_Reunion_04/HTML/Page-278.htm
(...that is Splitman checking it out when we attended the Porsche rennsport reunion at Daytona speedway:-)
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speedwell
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Re: Sodd-thread
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March 24, 2006, 14:50:28 pm »
I remembered that i ' had in a book the same car but after all they are very similar but they are not the same because the handle is different and the handle of bonnet is missing thus they are not same, my photos results from a porsche book and they have taken in laguna seca in 90 and the owner is Jim barrington
(poor quality pict )
links for the other gmund , pict show the handle door
http://www.pelicanparts.com/swapmeet_pics/Rennsport_Reunion_04/HTML/Page-283.htm
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Jon
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Re: Sodd-thread
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March 24, 2006, 15:07:30 pm »
Quote from: Soddli on March 24, 2006, 13:51:18 pm
Very, very cool guys!!!
JHU....do you still have the inboard film by the Thundersodder spezialer filmed at our great event Bergrennen?
Of course I do... if I ever need to SUE SplitMan, after all, you never know what longterm effects of beeing scared silly are ;-)
http://v-dubs.no/jhu/movies/Bergrennen.avi
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speedwell
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Re: Sodd-thread
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Reply #21 on:
March 24, 2006, 15:40:56 pm »
waouwwwwww what a sexy noise !!!!..
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Re: Sodd-thread
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March 24, 2006, 16:11:54 pm »
I was sure I was going to die... seriously.... just sitting on the parcel shelf holding the camera with one hand... NEVER AGAIN!
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Rocket-Racing
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Re: Sodd-thread
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March 24, 2006, 20:02:55 pm »
This is an old swedish rally bug. Definately a Hot Sodd, even if it has kind of a "nose down, ass up" stance in one of the pictures
By the way, I'm actually sitting here eating sodd as I write, quite good actually...
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Georg/DFL
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Re: Sodd-thread
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March 24, 2006, 21:34:55 pm »
Ok, it's very off topic, but I am curious...what is sodd made of? What ingredients?
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BeetleBug
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Re: Sodd-thread
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March 24, 2006, 21:57:15 pm »
Quote from: Georg/DFL on March 24, 2006, 21:34:55 pm
Ok, it's very off topic, but I am curious...what is sodd made of? What ingredients?
Don`t worry, we digg this off topic thread and besides, we would also like to know what Sodd is made off. My guess is that it is the same with Sodd as it is with Karsk - secret, but OH so good!
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Ole
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Re: Sodd-thread
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March 24, 2006, 21:58:57 pm »
Quote from: Georg/DFL on March 24, 2006, 21:34:55 pm
Ok, it's very off topic, but I am curious...what is sodd made of? What ingredients?
Thanks for asking that! I thought everybody knew except me...
Google says it's something like that:
Saludos,
Ole
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BeetleBug
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Re: Sodd-thread
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March 24, 2006, 22:08:05 pm »
Or like this...
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Re: Sodd-thread
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March 24, 2006, 22:18:41 pm »
Actually I think Thündersodd is a combination of Karsk and Sodd....
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TomR
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SV: Sodd-thread
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Reply #29 on:
March 24, 2006, 22:19:39 pm »
Ole and Georg! Maybe they serve "sodd" at SCC #2006, come and take a look!!
But for gods sake - ask after Sodd - not Thundersodd - i ate the last one at one occation ....christ....
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