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« on: September 29, 2008, 21:40:48 pm »

 Any tips on stopping an oil leak between the filter and the plate

this small leak is realy getting on my T*ts

would i be better off with a golf (rabbit) type filter
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2008, 21:52:11 pm »

maybe a problem with flange adapter? I don't think HP1's typically have a problem leaking.
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2008, 21:54:59 pm »

Dump the Fram, and use a Wix 51515R - i have switched over and not a single drip, leak, or adverse effects from big oil pressure.
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2008, 22:23:38 pm »



    Filter adapter is the problem that I have with mine. Mill it down a bit than it should be OK.

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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2008, 04:02:14 am »



    Filter adapter is the problem that I have with mine. Mill it down a bit than it should be OK.

   Frenchy
Right.  I've seen some where the center threaded fitting was screwed in cockeyed.
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2008, 04:05:08 am »

I had the same problem with mine! Drove me nuts until it got milled down. Common problem, I see.
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2008, 07:39:36 am »

thanks for that. looks like I'll be replacing both Roll Eyes
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2008, 07:58:57 am »

I used a flat file on the sealing surface, no leaks here Grin
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2008, 11:25:00 am »

This is getting a real pain in the butt.

When starting from cold the oil is now dumping out between the filter and the filter mount.

I tried changing the oil to 15/40w from 20/50w filed the mount flat, changed the filter and its still doing it

I take it this is because the weathers getting a little cooler and the oil is thicking up because its colder.

The oil pressure is not real High, it starts at about 30 psi on tick over going down to 20psi when hot   

What would you do?

I think that its the filter mount, I've been looking on the internet and seen a Jay cee filter mount with a pressure release valve to stop this, any good ? If not what do you run. I've got an empi one fitted

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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2008, 16:58:51 pm »

The oil pressure is not real High, it starts at about 30 psi on tick over going down to 20psi when hot   
20psi hot idle is high.  What is it on the highway at rpm?
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2008, 22:38:20 pm »

gunning it up to 45 to 50 psi but when hot about 25 to 35psi crusing
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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2008, 04:35:07 am »

How square is the center threaded collar to the mounting face for the seal?
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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2008, 07:24:31 am »

Bruce

I had a look this morning and to be honest I think that the filter mounts is the problem. It dosent look 100% square between the treaded part and the face as you say.

Its been ok up to now but as the weathers getting cooler here, its been playing up.

Where would you be able to get a good quality mount that exits to the left.


I just want to be able to get in the car and drive it Roll Eyes
 
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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2008, 08:30:11 am »

dont we all ron. weathers been so shite here this year.got any plans for the tail end of this year ron? have to meet up soon barry Wink
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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2008, 08:44:37 am »

PM sent

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« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2008, 10:11:41 am »

PM sent

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thanks, look like just what i need
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« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2008, 10:14:28 am »

dont we all ron. weathers been so shite here this year.got any plans for the tail end of this year ron? have to meet up soon barry Wink

I dont mind the weather, better fun in the wet Wink Grin

Going to Slough and maybe flame and thunder. It was a shame the drags in devon were closed down but we're still on the look out for a venue in the central south west to be able to run our cars.

Hope to be getting my ghia back from Alex real soon

Maybe we can arrange an outing with a few cars over xmas, there's usualy a few good days over the holidays.   
 
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« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2008, 13:17:55 pm »

sounds good ron.are they rescheduling the drag meet for next year then? or was it closed for another reason?
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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2008, 14:12:12 pm »

Someone said the local council closed t down due to noise  Undecided
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« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2008, 14:34:20 pm »

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Thanks Gunter got them on their way.  Cool
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« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2008, 14:50:39 pm »

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« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2008, 20:21:40 pm »

Right, I now have the new CSP fillter mount on and this has solved the leak beween the fillter and the mount.

I also tried the csp fillter but it was leaking on a run between the two parts of the fillter ( its the re-usable type). Both Items are or great quality as usual form CSP but they havent solved the problem.

I thought i'd give a normal fillter a go again as the leak had stoppped between the the fillter mount and the fillter. I didnt have time to run it after fitting the new fillter so I started the car this morning to check, the car had been out all night (air temp about + 3 1/2 C ) the fillter burst open just under the the rim of ther fillter and dumpped the oil.     

What am I doing wrong.HuhHuhHuhHuh

Going back to basics the oil line comes out of the oil pump cover to the fillter mount via the port marked in then flows throught the fillter  ( when it works) then out via the out port to the oil cooler, then out of the oil cooler back to the engine via the tapping in the case.

Right or wrong Huh??   Huh

should I be running a oil stat .  Please any help would be great  Cry 
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« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2008, 09:52:07 am »

Ron, are you reving it from cold? oil pressure is pretty high at startup(well over 100psi)
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« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2008, 10:28:08 am »

Ron, are you reving it from cold? oil pressure is pretty high at startup(well over 100psi)

Not that I know of, but I'll give it another try keeping the revs down with a new fillter this morning. Its not been as cold tonight and the cars been out again

Cheers Ben
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« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2008, 15:32:53 pm »

Ron, are you reving it from cold? oil pressure is pretty high at startup(well over 100psi)

Not that I know of, but I'll give it another try keeping the revs down with a new fillter this morning. Its not been as cold tonight and the cars been out again

Cheers Ben

Ben

Tried it again this morning, started the car without reving and got another drive full of oil.

Nearly set about the car with a lump hammer Angry

What do you think, would fitting an oil stat before the fillter help  Huh?

starting to get realy pi$$ed of with it now, anyone want a cheap car Huh Roll Eyes

 

 

 
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« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2008, 15:38:22 pm »

Ron, You have everything as i do on mine. For a filter to split its surely excess oil pressure?

Have you tried a genuine vw filter (golf) Ive got one on mine atm

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« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2008, 15:39:05 pm »

YOU HAVEN'T GOT A KINK IN THE OIL HOSE HAVE YOU? or a badly made oil fitting or the touch of boom boom
(sorry CAPS LOCK)
could have the same effect as squeezing the end of a garden hose and giving way too much pressure
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« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2008, 15:49:43 pm »

Ron, You have everything as i do on mine. For a filter to split its surely excess oil pressure?

Have you tried a genuine vw filter (golf) Ive got one on mine atm

Lee

tried that one didnt last long

YOU HAVEN'T GOT A KINK IN THE OIL HOSE HAVE YOU? or a badly made oil fitting or the touch of boom boom
(sorry CAPS LOCK)
could have the same effect as squeezing the end of a garden hose and giving way too much pressure

I was thinking that I may have a blocked / kinked oil line on the way to work today.

Looks like I be under the car again tonight checking.

As for the touch of BOOM BOOM looks like its rubbing off, or maybe its a virus, Boomboomlitis or something

 
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« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2008, 15:55:40 pm »

please do not use the words Boom Boom and rubbing off in the same sentence!
did he not tell you the story of his date with the Vetenary nurse Cheesy
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« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2008, 15:56:23 pm »

please do not use the words Boom Boom and rubbing off in the same sentence!
did he not tell you the story of his date with the Vetenary nurse Cheesy

sorry but its out there now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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