My >street/<strip '56

[fahrvergnugen]

"old man"    .

You lazy kids?, seems like the old guy's have to do all the work

Cheers,
Paul.

[fahrvergnugen]

paul you also got me looking every time
i like what you are doing.....

Thanks Hans, appreciate it.

Looking forward to your update.

Paul.

[fahrvergnugen]

The beam sits on its final place, just tackwelded for now.
Closed the bottom of the framehead and fliped the pan again.

Paul.

[fahrvergnugen]

I had to do some measuruing again, just to be sure

Put on the new urethane bushes and placed the a-arm, the front mounts wil be in the spare wheel area.

Paul.

[fahrvergnugen]

After I dropped the Porsche beam in the frame head, I had some gabs tp fill.
Made 2 pieces out of 3mm sheetmetal and welded them around the beam.

Paul.

[fahrvergnugen]

Now it is time to build a jig so that I can copy the Porsche mounting points to the beetle pan.

 

[fahrvergnugen]

Left front, back and upper mounting point where it should be.

Paul.

[Shubee2 (DSK)]

are the upper strut mounts going to clear the hood?? looks high in the picture

[fahrvergnugen]

are the upper strut mounts going to clear the hood?? looks high in the picture

I sure hope so . It only looks high in the picture, the original (Porsche 914) is verry low at the front.

Paul.

[fahrvergnugen]

Shubee2's post made me a little worry, so yesterday I started measuring again  .
All looks good the hight and even the width fits in/unther the innerwings.

Then I finished the right front suspension mounting points (and did the left side over again ) then I cut the 914 innerwing piece to the wright width and welded it together.
Fixed the innerwing piece with some temp. steel and bolted the complete right suspension on.

I must say, I am pretty pleased with the result so far.

[jamiep_jamiep]

Impressive!

[fahrvergnugen]

Impressive!

Thanks, progress is slow but i'll get there.

Paul.

[fahrvergnugen]

After I finished welding the Porsche innerwings together and smooted the weld, it was time to take a piece of '66, bolt a fender to it, start cutting and see how it all fits.

Again; I am so pleased with the result

Paul.

[tikimadness]

Good work Leepu!!

Michael

[Black Sheep]

Nice , that looks like it grew there 

[fahrvergnugen]

Nice , that looks like it grew there 

It did, now I am waiting till the rest of this beetle will grow on.

Paul.

[fahrvergnugen]

Good work Leepu!!

Michael

I went to the zoo for some inspiration

Paul.

[fahrvergnugen]

It was time to start with the steering and ride hight, but first it seems like a good idea to see it on the ground with 4 wheels on it.

And indeed, this was a good plan
The first problem i saw when it was on four wheels; this thing is pretty narrow for a circuit/drag/street car
Second problem; a bid of camber is nice, but this is cray , Back to the drawing board.

This is what I want;
   
Camber =>  Front -1 deg   - Rear -1.5 deg
Caster   =>  Front 6-7 deg - Rear  N/A
Toe      =>  Front 0 deg    - Rear -15' (toe-in)

Paul.

[kev d]

Hi Paul,

Just a thought, is the distance between the strut tops & lower wishbones standard?
Also has the angle of the struts (forward & back) been retained?
If you can keep the distances and angles `factory` the camber etc should be ok, if the track width has been modified it should still work as long as the upper & lower mounting points have been moved an equal amount (within reason), although bump steer may become an issue if the steering rack pivot points no longer correspond with the wishbone pivots.
Thats when it becomes an engineering job way beyond me!
A set of wheels with a different offset will cure the `narrow` look though.

Cheers,
Kev

[fahrvergnugen]

Hi Paul,

Just a thought, is the distance between the strut tops & lower wishbones standard?
Also has the angle of the struts (forward & back) been retained?
If you can keep the distances and angles `factory` the camber etc should be ok, if the track width has been modified it should still work as long as the upper & lower mounting points have been moved an equal amount (within reason), although bump steer may become an issue if the steering rack pivot points no longer correspond with the wishbone pivots.
Thats when it becomes an engineering job way beyond me!
A set of wheels with a different offset will cure the `narrow` look though.

Cheers,
Kev

Hi Kev,

The track width has been modified and the upper & lower mounting points have been moved an equal amount, at least thats what I thought I did
When all the wheel angles are like I whant them to be, I will start with the steering. This will be special made to avoid bumbsteer. The width can/will be adjusted with offset and spacers.

Paul.

[JSL]

Hey,

Just wanted to say this is such an awesome thread! Love following this! Really hope it all works out!!

Cheers,

J

[fahrvergnugen]

Thanks J,

It will work out, just need to do things slow and sometimes twice

Paul.

PS. still don't want to tell me what collor your car is?

[JSL]

Hahahaha! Was that you!!

Hehehe It depends who gets to paint first!! 

I know its silly, just dont want to be accused of copying someone, anyway your a little way off needing paint just yet  When your closer to to needing paint lets talk 

What your doing is awesome dude! Loving the build!

Cheers,

J

[fahrvergnugen]

Hahahaha! Was that you!!

Hehehe It depends who gets to paint first!! 

I know its silly, just dont want to be accused of copying someone, anyway your a little way off needing paint just yet  When your closer to to needing paint lets talk 

What your doing is awesome dude! Loving the build!

Cheers,

J

Yep that was me

Indeed I don't need paint yet, don't worry when I need paint (and I still haven't chainged my mind) we will talk

Thanks again.
Paul.

[67pickup]

Amazing work and innovation, never heard of anyone doing this before! Good luck, I'm impressed!

[fahrvergnugen]

Amazing work and innovation,  Good luck, I'm impressed!

Thanks.

never heard of anyone doing this before!

Thats one of the things why I like this idea

Paul.

[fahrvergnugen]

To fix the camber problem I was thinking of narowing the lower beam and fill it out with spacers, after measuring this meant that I needed 4cm spacers on each side . I DON'T WANT 4CM SPACERS .

I started measuring the oval body again, and I seem to have 6cm width more than I thought .
I widened the upper strut with 6cm and after some fidling with the upper adjusting I have a -1deg. camber reading on my digital angle thing.

[Black Sheep]

That looks better  how are you planning on mounting the forward A arm mounts ?
 Would think this is gonna need quite a substantial bit of engineering bolted up to the frame head 

[fahrvergnugen]

That looks better  how are you planning on mounting the forward A arm mounts ?
 Would think this is gonna need quite a substantial bit of engineering bolted up to the frame head 

They will be welded in the spare wheel area and bolted to the cage.

Paul.

[Josef]

Nice project!!
When I look at your work and your innovations it motivates me to go on with my plan för my car.

/Josef