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levis
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« on: March 30, 2009, 22:35:46 pm »
like the titel says!

need to see some pics of tyres 185/65, 185/70 of perhaps 185/80.

because this doesn't fit!!
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streetvw
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2009, 22:47:49 pm »
you need short axles!!!
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2009, 23:01:56 pm »
Yep looks like a euro '67 still sporting the stock long axles. Even a little 165 will be pushed right out to the edge.
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2009, 23:16:21 pm »
I think "part" of the offset problem is the BRM wheel. I ran long axles with 5.5" 5x205mm chrome wheels (356 style), with 205/60 on my '67 and they fit within fenders.

Speaking of rear tires, I'm going to be replacing my Firestone radials here REAL soon... they're done. Looks the the Goodyear Eagle GT will be my next tire of choice... they have fantastic grip in wet and dry... probably 195/65.
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2009, 23:30:46 pm »
I agree with the folks above.  Short axles and the problem will go away.  What width are the BRMs?
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2009, 23:37:45 pm »
Yep - You need short axles, as mentioned before it will look dumb even with a skinny 165  Undecided

Here is a few pictures of 205/70 on MWS BRM 5,5" rims - and SHORT axles.
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2009, 00:07:13 am »
Silly question, but do the M.W.S. and F.F. BRM wheels share the exact offset? I'm pretty sure that I have a late '67 with (I think) long axles and 165/70/15 Signet tires on the back. The wheels & tires sit just right for me. They're even with the fender and I have an earlier set of F.F. BRMs.

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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2009, 00:21:45 am »
the narrower tires look just right on BRMs and a long axle car like yours, Mark. I't the steamroller 205mm+ tires that begin to protrude from the fender. I'd leave your just as it sits... short axles on your car would give it a tame appearance.

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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2009, 00:22:55 am »
Flat Fours are 5" (like originals), MWS is 5.5". My guess is the offset is slightly different, but I couldn't tell you which way.
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2009, 00:35:09 am »
Jim & Zach... I agree with you both.

And yes, I'll be there on Sunday. See many of you at that juncture.
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2009, 02:29:07 am »
Here is a 185/65 at the rear; front too.
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2009, 02:47:57 am »
Word up on long axles.  I think late cars look just right with them...as long as your wheel/tire combo is appropriate.



Yeah, yeah I realize Fuchs are different than most everything else as far as fitment.  These are 206/65 Bridgestones.
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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2009, 03:27:52 am »
Quote from: javabug on March 31, 2009, 02:47:57 am
Word up on long axles.  I think late cars look just right with them...as long as your wheel/tire combo is appropriate.



Yeah, yeah I realize Fuchs are different than most everything else as far as fitment.  These are 206/65 Bridgestones.


Such a cool car...

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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2009, 06:54:37 am »
Lawrence & Mike, I've always dug both of your cars. Mike, kudos for running a factory fuel pump and heaters. I don't feel so alone, now.

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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2009, 09:33:22 am »
it's the offset of the brm's alright, offset +12.

the brm's are from msw and have the same offset as the ff brm's.

short axles are not a option this year, don't have the time to do the work, so maybe net year.

what kind of tires do you guys recommend?
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streetvw
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« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2009, 09:50:42 am »
you might get away with a 195x65 tyre, are you freindly with the local tyre fitters if so you could get them to try a few sizes for you might be worth a try
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« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2009, 11:04:01 am »
this in mine...with 195/65 on 15x6 fuchs
and 1,5 cm spacer on the rear Roll Eyes
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« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2009, 12:04:17 pm »
That's a good-looking car!  What tires are on the front?

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Thaaaaaanks guys...   Wink
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« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2009, 12:13:36 pm »
The fuchs have a different offset than the brm's i don't think that the 195/65 will cut it.

maybe a smaller size
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« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2009, 12:19:40 pm »
Quote from: javabug on March 31, 2009, 12:04:17 pm
That's a good-looking car!  What tires are on the front?


michelin..155/70..if the question was for me... Huh

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« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2009, 13:44:27 pm »
It was, thanks!
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« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2009, 14:04:25 pm »
Jimi, that's one sweet looking car. What year is it... '65 or'66? If so, the late body trim looks good on it. I've often wondered what that would look like.
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« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2009, 14:25:34 pm »
thank u Fred...i'm honoured to receive some compliments from you!
i posted my car some months ago..but with bumpers and a low profile front tires...
however the car is a 1985  mexican bug (here in Italy after the stop of vw german  production, vw import mexican beetles..untill 1986 i think)
that i modified like a 66..
but works are always in progress.... Grin

may be a day i'll post some pics of the "kafka's metamorphosis"  Grin ...but i'm so lazy.... Grin

sorry for my bad English...i hope you understand everything Wink
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« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2009, 14:36:29 pm »
Jimi..... that IS a great looking car and nice shot of it too.  Cool.... same size rear tire I am going to use on my '67
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« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2009, 14:39:42 pm »
Quote from: levis on March 31, 2009, 12:13:36 pm
The fuchs have a different offset than the brm's i don't think that the 195/65 will cut it.

maybe a smaller size

ok for fuch offset..you're right..but i see in your first pic that  Wheel is "out" ,not only the tyre..so, i don't know if u will resolve the problem only changing the rear tyres...
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« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2009, 14:40:07 pm »
WOW! That's very cool, Jimi. I can't believe that your car is a 1985. You did a great job with making it look like an earlier model. Don't worry about the English... I have friends from all over the world. On The Lounge, we have a universal language... it's called the love of Cal Look VWs.
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« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2009, 14:45:04 pm »
Quote from: DKK_Fred on March 31, 2009, 14:40:07 pm
WOW! That's very cool, Jimi. I can't believe that your car is a 1985. You did a great job with making it look like an earlier model. Don't worry about the English... I have friends from all over the world. On The Lounge, we have a universal language... it's called the love of Cal Look VWs.
I BELIVE IN "THE LOVE OF CAL LOOKS VW'S"   Wink
 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
and i hope to improve my english here... and maybe to see some of you at EBI...my car is ready for this 1000km from Italy to Belgium!

Quote from: Jim Ratto on March 31, 2009, 14:36:29 pm
Jimi..... that IS a great looking car and nice shot of it too.  Cool.... same size rear tire I am going to use on my '67
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Thank u very much JIM !!!
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levis
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« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2009, 15:16:17 pm »
Quote from: jimi323 on March 31, 2009, 14:39:42 pm
Quote from: levis on March 31, 2009, 12:13:36 pm
The fuchs have a different offset than the brm's i don't think that the 195/65 will cut it.

maybe a smaller size

ok for fuch offset..you're right..but i see in your first pic that  Wheel is "out" ,not only the tyre..so, i don't know if u will resolve the problem only changing the rear tyres...

oke, your right. it's not only a tyre problem. need to figure out what i can do best.
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« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2009, 18:37:40 pm »
Ok, I have tried a few other different combos on my car.

I have already posted the two above pictures in the current setup: 205/70-15 on 5,5 MWS BRM - short axles.

I tried both short and long axles with different tire setups, before i restored the car last year and had it painted beige.

Below is pictures of the combos I have tried:
1. 195/65-15 on 5" BRM (Donīt know what brand, but one of the very first repros made) - long axles
2. 3. 4. 185/80-15 on 5.5" MWS BRM - short axles.

You might get away with a 195/65-15, but i would lower your car an inch, to help the wheel fit better inside the fender.

In my opinion, the only wheel that can get away with using long axles is the fuchs wheel, most others donīt have as much offset as the fuchs does.
Hope this helps in your decision.
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« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2009, 18:54:57 pm »
Quote from: DKK_Fred on March 31, 2009, 06:54:37 am
Lawrence & Mike, I've always dug both of your cars. Mike, kudos for running a factory fuel pump and heaters. I don't feel so alone, now.

 Grin

Thanks, Fred. Your car is cool too.

Hey Mike, I can see why you like Jimi's car Grin It rocks!
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