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Jyrki
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A purpose built street car
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March 08, 2010, 13:52:11 pm »
Hi,
I guess it's my turn to write a short story of my project, with a couple of pictures...
As some of you may know, I started a chassis car project two years ago by buying Leif Nystrφm's old car (without engine & transmission).
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The original plan was to replace the body with an all-steel oval-window body. I found an early '53 oval window in the summer of 2008. I believe it is a very special car; from what I can see from the picture, even though it was built 3/1953, it has split window doors and grooved trim from the factory. My guess is that they used some old parts at the factory?
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I stripped the chassis and the body
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and did a mock-up of the car
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BeetleBug
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 08, 2010, 14:23:27 pm »
Dam, has it started to snow in hell? A Fin making a project thread
Looking forward to your updates. Love the heading, it`s long between purpose built street cars
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Jyrki
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 08, 2010, 14:36:23 pm »
Some time passed by and in late summer 2009 I was doing some work on the car, and somehow started to re-measure the chassis. Ooops. some of the tubes were undersized and it was illegal for racing in Finland. I was more or less forced to divest the chassis and go for a new one. A pity, since the chassis had served Leif well, running hi 8s at 250km/h++
I contacted RLR, and we specified the new chassis; CrMo chassis with a Funny Car cage (SFI 25.4, 7.50sec), ladder bars, K&L beam...
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The chassis was shipped in late January
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During the shipping I prepared the body and axles ready
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Jyrki
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 08, 2010, 14:39:33 pm »
The container arrived in early March
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And the same night I had bolted on the axles and wheels
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The following day I put on the body
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Jyrki
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 08, 2010, 14:43:31 pm »
The 10" wheels barely fit inside original fenders - there ain't too much space between the tires and the valve covers, but the engine fits behind a closed deck lid
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I had a 70mm narrowed beam available, but I need to narrow it more, prob 6"
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The rear apron had to be cut to fit the oil pump
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Jyrki
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 08, 2010, 14:47:45 pm »
The contrast between grooved semaphores and Funny car cage
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A street car with a SFI sticker
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A special picture for Richie
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And the car on scales. My estimate is 770-800kg race ready with driver, it is a full steel street car after all
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Wout
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 08, 2010, 15:37:56 pm »
Awesome! Looks stunning
gr
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 08, 2010, 16:49:36 pm »
Looking really good!
What engine are you putting in?
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 08, 2010, 17:37:22 pm »
Holy crap!
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 08, 2010, 17:55:51 pm »
Quote from: Jyrki on March 08, 2010, 14:47:45 pm
A special picture for Richie
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As long as they stay there thats ok
Jyrki,it looks really good,like that the decklid closes properly,what offset & sizes are the wheels?
cheers richie
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 08, 2010, 18:30:15 pm »
Man, there are so many cool cars being built all over Europe right now. I am so glad to be a part of it.
Very very nice Jyrki!!
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 08, 2010, 19:19:20 pm »
Wow, what a racecar Jyrki!
Thanks for sharing!
I`m on my knees now and pray that this is the car you are bringing to SCC this year
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Jyrki
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 08, 2010, 19:57:21 pm »
Hi,
I can't even dream of driving it this year, probably not even 2011. Even though I have sold 2 1/4 cars during the past 2 years to be able to focus my limited time&money for this project, it'll take a couple of years to get it running, maybe more. I don't have a timetable for it, but I must admit I am anxious. This year my goal is to run my '65 beetle which has been woken after 4 years of hibernation.
Turbo engine, most likely the Pauter engine that I had in the '55 in naturally aspirated form.
Wheelie bars for both cars Richie, unless Kalle arranges Unlimited Street Europe
The wheels are Billet Specialties (cheapest SFI 15.1 wheels), 3½" front with 1.75" Back Spacing, and 10" rear with 3½" Back Spacing. 10" is overkill, but this is all about "
look & feel
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Jyrki
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Eric Ellis (57HotrodVW)
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 08, 2010, 20:21:41 pm »
That carage and the vehicles that it contains seems familiar...
Looking good, Jyrki - Thanks for the updates and info!
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Re: A purpose built street car
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Reply #14 on:
March 08, 2010, 21:10:48 pm »
Just AWESOME,great lookin' car you are building.Keep going on.
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BeetleBug
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 09, 2010, 09:11:41 am »
Wow, a 3.4 litre turbo monster? That should be able to move this thing on the streets for sure. It looks like a tight fit for the exhaust pipe on the 3/4 side but surely you will manage
Unlimited Street Europe, now that would be a lot of fun;
1) cruise
2) race
3) BBQ
4) Bragging
how about adopting the US rules?
Any four cylinder, air cooled, rear-engine VW powered vehicle allowed
Minimum vehicle weight (with driver) 1700 lbs (can be changed)
Must have two front seats
Must have functioning headlights & tail lights
No Wheelie Bars allowed
Proof of Registration and Insurance Required
Vehicle must have all required safety equipment for ET/MPH as per NHRA Rules
Vehicles must complete an approximate 20km street Cruise prior to the event
No tow vehicles allowed (Vehicle must drive to the Starting Line and return to the Pits under its own power.)
Just for fun!
Best rgs
BB
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Jyrki
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 09, 2010, 11:41:43 am »
Quote from: BeetleBug on March 09, 2010, 09:11:41 am
Unlimited Street Europe, now that would be a lot of fun;
1) cruise
2) race
3) BBQ
4) Bragging
how about adopting the US rules?
Any four cylinder, air cooled, rear-engine VW powered vehicle allowed
Minimum vehicle weight (with driver) 1700 lbs (can be changed)
Must have two front seats
Must have functioning headlights & tail lights
No Wheelie Bars allowed
Proof of Registration and Insurance Required
Vehicle must have all required safety equipment for ET/MPH as per NHRA Rules
Vehicles must complete an approximate 20km street Cruise prior to the event
No tow vehicles allowed (Vehicle must drive to the Starting Line and return to the Pits under its own power.)
Just for fun!
Best rgs
BB
Sounds perfect! Count me in.
Jyrki
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taffy apple
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 09, 2010, 16:40:06 pm »
Truly awesome car you are building there Jyrki
Keep up the good work,
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Lee.C
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 09, 2010, 17:03:15 pm »
Quote from: BeetleBug on March 09, 2010, 09:11:41 am
Wow, a 3.4 litre turbo monster? That should be able to move this thing on the streets for sure. It looks like a tight fit for the exhaust pipe on the 3/4 side but surely you will manage
Unlimited Street Europe, now that would be a lot of fun;
1) cruise
2) race
3) BBQ
4) Bragging
how about adopting the US rules?
Any four cylinder, air cooled, rear-engine VW powered vehicle allowed
Minimum vehicle weight (with driver) 1700 lbs (can be changed)
Must have two front seats
Must have functioning headlights & tail lights
No Wheelie Bars allowed
Proof of Registration and Insurance Required
Vehicle must have all required safety equipment for ET/MPH as per NHRA Rules
Vehicles must complete an approximate 20km street Cruise prior to the event
No tow vehicles allowed (Vehicle must drive to the Starting Line and return to the Pits under its own power.)
Just for fun!
Best rgs
BB
Now thats sound PERFECT - I want in
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Tekken
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 10, 2010, 09:05:44 am »
Awsome project Jyrki,can't wait to see this car finished-love those wheels!
Stian
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Rasser
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 10, 2010, 20:28:02 pm »
Cool project!
I remember seeing your green oval pauter powered monster at SCC a few years ago, and i think you won an award too, right?
That car had some serious punch, and turbocharging it just sounds insane
... in a good way
I loved your green car! very cool.
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Ragtop
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 11, 2010, 13:50:15 pm »
Quote from: BeetleBug on March 09, 2010, 09:11:41 am
Wow, a 3.4 litre turbo monster? That should be able to move this thing on the streets for sure. It looks like a tight fit for the exhaust pipe on the 3/4 side but surely you will manage
Unlimited Street Europe, now that would be a lot of fun;
1) cruise
2) race
3) BBQ
4) Bragging
how about adopting the US rules?
Any four cylinder, air cooled, rear-engine VW powered vehicle allowed
Minimum vehicle weight (with driver) 1700 lbs (can be changed)
Must have two front seats
Must have functioning headlights & tail lights
No Wheelie Bars allowed
Proof of Registration and Insurance Required
Vehicle must have all required safety equipment for ET/MPH as per NHRA Rules
Vehicles must complete an approximate 20km street Cruise prior to the event
No tow vehicles allowed (Vehicle must drive to the Starting Line and return to the Pits under its own power.)
Just for fun!
Best rgs
BB
All of a sudden I feel the urge of building my ragtop back to racetrim hehe
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 11, 2010, 19:36:56 pm »
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 11, 2010, 19:56:01 pm »
Sounds like a cool class that I would like to be in if at all possible
How much 'aircooled' are you talking about Kalle? Cylinderheads aircooled? intercooler aircooled?
(awesome build too Jyrki!
)
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BeetleBug
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 11, 2010, 22:16:59 pm »
Quote from: Airspeed on March 11, 2010, 19:56:01 pm
Sounds like a cool class that I would like to be in if at all possible
How much 'aircooled' are you talking about Kalle? Cylinderheads aircooled? intercooler aircooled?
(awesome build too Jyrki!
)
Aircooled, just to make sure Skinne does not dominate the class
On a more serious note, this is something I have been talking to Jyrki about over a beer or two and nothing more serious than that. But if there is any interest for it perhaps I should take it further?
Sorry for going off topic in your project thread Jyrki.
Best rgs
Kalle
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 12, 2010, 04:45:20 am »
Zowie Batman!
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Re: A purpose built street car
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March 12, 2010, 15:59:09 pm »
Awesome project!
Keep the pics coming!
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Jyrki
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Re: A purpose built street car
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April 08, 2010, 08:12:47 am »
Minor progress on the car...
I built a new 6" narrowed front beam, and now the wheels fit the way they should:
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The chassis and the body are attached together with temporary mounts. There is still some adjustment to be done; at the moment the body is 2mm off-set.
With 28" tires the stance is close to what I had in mind:
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It is a very tight fit to get everything "inside the car"; the header and oil-pump vs. rear apron, intake vs. deck lid, injectors, wheels, valve covers vs. rear tires etc. As an example, I had to cut the rear apron for the #2 exhaust primary pipe, but the deck lid still closes:
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I also started fabricating the header. The pictures are even worse than the ones above, so I won't include them. Anyway, the turbo will be located next to the transmission nose cone / behind the co-driver's seat. I am aware the tubes are pretty long, but I really want to locate the turbo, IC, tanks, battery etc as much as possible to front/right/down to optimise the center of gravity. I hope the turbo will spool up w/o problems, it is a moderate size turbo on a big engine.
20% done 80% to go?
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Re: A purpose built street car
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April 08, 2010, 09:33:35 am »
Inspiring stuff.
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April 08, 2010, 11:46:38 am »
This gonna be a fantastic car!
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