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kingsburgphil
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« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2011, 02:03:11 am »

How about one of these little rascals....reported to make 1000 hp/Ltr in qualifying trim.
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« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2011, 13:08:06 pm »

ford cosworth motor built in the early 90's if memory serves me it was pushing out about 1000hp



was fitted in this and raced in thunder saloons



Australian Mcgee quad cam topfuel car raced in europe in the early 90's




 
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« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2011, 19:39:47 pm »

Don't forget these.

 
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« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2011, 22:10:21 pm »

How about one of these little rascals....reported to make 1000 hp/Ltr in qualifying trim.

Nelson Piquet...yeah dude... I remember!  Cool
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« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2011, 02:46:02 am »

[ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] May I be allowed to submit the quintessential American racing engine?    The Miller.

This engine and its variants raced successfully at Indy and scores of dirt and board tracks
for 60 years.

IMHO the founding fathers of Hot Rodding in southern Calif. stood on the
shoulders of Miller, Goossen, Offenhauser and others to create the hobby we
all enjoy.


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« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2011, 07:16:46 am »

Honda Racing has had some great accomplishments. The RC 166 is one of my favorites.
6 cylinder, 250cc, 41x31mm bore and stroke, 60 hp @ 18,000 rpm and a 7 speed gearbox. Pretty cool.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/eaRop_ZMwo0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/eaRop_ZMwo0</a>
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« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2011, 07:59:07 am »


Australian Mcgee quad cam topfuel car raced in europe in the early 90's




 

There is a "Speed Zone" (go karts a drag racing place) off the 60 Freeway that has a rail in there on display with the McGee heads on it -- way cool
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« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2011, 20:24:47 pm »

Maserati 450S
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« Reply #38 on: March 05, 2011, 06:17:17 am »

Here's a couple of my favorites.
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« Reply #39 on: March 05, 2011, 07:09:13 am »

Mine too /\
Bugatti motors are like jewelry
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« Reply #40 on: March 05, 2011, 21:58:15 pm »

this one does something for me too
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« Reply #41 on: March 05, 2011, 22:01:33 pm »

Cool site for race Porsche 6 cylinder stuff
http://www.pbase.com/9146gt/906_engine

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« Reply #42 on: March 05, 2011, 22:30:13 pm »

this one does something for me too

Yep!



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« Reply #43 on: March 06, 2011, 06:22:26 am »

Amazing performance considering the quality of their pre war aluminum was equivalent to modern lawn furniture.

I had the privilege of watching one run @ Laguna Seca, unfortunately the driver (museum director) did two laps at a fast idle and parked it.
Conversely when MBZ brought over a W196 (W163?) and a SLR, the likes of Fangio and Moss were allowed to put the boot to them...priceless.
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« Reply #44 on: March 06, 2011, 17:41:03 pm »

and in case one Alfa motor isn't enough..... Shocked

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/ME3m1Rz2RzE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/ME3m1Rz2RzE</a>

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« Reply #45 on: March 06, 2011, 20:54:23 pm »

Russ Collins and his engines.
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« Reply #46 on: March 06, 2011, 22:00:28 pm »

As i had a Fiat 131 for my 1st and 2nd car. Also had a 130 Abarth Strada, 128 3P and a X19 with Lancia 2Ltr twin cam in it.

I still have a soft spot for the Fiat twin cam.


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« Reply #47 on: March 06, 2011, 23:15:42 pm »

Hideo "Pop's " Yoshimura.
Pops build a Suzuki engine/bike/frame within a hundred days, and they (Wess Cooley) wheelied with engine problems just for pleasing the crowd thru the Le Mans 24 Hours.
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« Reply #48 on: March 08, 2011, 08:30:39 am »

Another example of too much motor and not enough chassis. Even the great marque Bugatti found
that intuition could not compete with engineering.
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« Reply #49 on: March 08, 2011, 20:50:51 pm »

How about one of these little rascals....reported to make 1000 hp/Ltr in qualifying trim.


This was a standard road car 1.5 engine with a big turbo fitted to it....
I read somewhere that even the people at BMW where amazed about its performance and strength.

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« Reply #50 on: March 09, 2011, 05:41:23 am »

I love to reference these motors when fellow motor heads start boasting about their favorites. 1500 bhp from a 1500cc (91 cid) stock block (steel)
is still hard to beat even for a AA/FD, which survives seconds versus minutes. Not to be ignored, Honda produced hp figures in qualifying trim close if
not equal to BMW.
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« Reply #51 on: March 09, 2011, 07:23:13 am »

I love to reference these motors when fellow motor heads start boasting about their favorites. 1500 bhp from a 1500cc (91 cid) stock block (steel)
is still hard to beat even for a AA/FD, which survives seconds versus minutes. Not to be ignored, Honda produced hp figures in qualifying trim close if
not equal to BMW.

The Alfetta 1.5 grand prix straight 8 was the pre-cursor to the "turbo era" orbital hp #'s... unreal for its era, and long stroke/rods. I cringe thinking of piston speed and cylinder pressure of that little monster.
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« Reply #52 on: August 16, 2012, 09:45:40 am »

a 13 B Rotary from Mazda N/A

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« Reply #53 on: August 17, 2012, 01:18:15 am »

Amazing performances have been coaxed out of those rotary engines, but holy crap they have to be one of the least pleasing-to-the-ear types of noises ever!  Lol.  Still, amazing times have been turned out by rotary-equipped cars.
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« Reply #54 on: August 17, 2012, 07:38:40 am »

This was a standard road car 1.5 engine with a big turbo fitted to it....
I read somewhere that even the people at BMW where amazed about its performance and strength.
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Yes, it was based on a road engine but all the parts was special made to be able to take up to 5 bar (70psi) of boost in qualification mode. Here is a dyno paper at "only" 3 bar of boost:

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It also helped that it was runing on toulene: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toluene

Toluene can be used as an octane booster in gasoline fuels used in internal combustion engines. Toluene at 86% by volume fueled all the turbo Formula 1 teams in the 1980s, first pioneered by the Honda team. The remaining 14% was a "filler" of n-heptane, to reduce the octane to meet Formula 1 fuel restrictions. Toluene at 100% can be used as a fuel for both two-stroke and four-stroke engines; however, due to the density of the fuel and other factors, the fuel does not vaporize easily unless preheated to 70 degrees Celsius (Honda accomplished this in their Formula 1 cars by routing the fuel lines through the muffler system to heat the fuel). Toluene also poses similar problems as alcohol fuels, as it eats through standard rubber fuel lines and has no lubricating properties, as standard gasoline does,[citation needed] which can break down fuel pumps and cause upper cylinder bore wear.
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« Reply #55 on: August 20, 2012, 19:06:57 pm »

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« Reply #56 on: August 21, 2012, 17:07:48 pm »

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