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leec
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12 volts starter, 6 volt cog?
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March 09, 2016, 19:28:54 pm »
I have just bought a crank and flywheel (wedgemated) and it seems it may have a 6volt 200mm flywheel which initially I was a bit pissed off about but I am sure I remember someone saying there is a lightweight high torque starter that has a removal cog?
Am I dreaming? Or can someone back up my dodgy memory?
Lee
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nicolas
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Re: 12 volts starter, 6 volt cog?
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March 09, 2016, 19:49:13 pm »
can't really help with the starter, but i have used a 6 volt starter on a 12 volt car, that works, just don't crank it too long.
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leec
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Re: 12 volts starter, 6 volt cog?
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March 09, 2016, 19:54:04 pm »
I know that's an option if all else fails.
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RichardinNZ
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March 09, 2016, 21:25:18 pm »
I recall hearing here in NZ that people use a Subaru starter with a 6v flywheel. I think there is a minor modification needed to the starter though.
Probably too vague to be of help but may trigger someone else's memory.
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DaveN
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Re: 12 volts starter, 6 volt cog?
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March 09, 2016, 21:39:59 pm »
Quote from: leec on March 09, 2016, 19:28:54 pm
I have just bought a crank and flywheel (wedgemated) and it seems it may have a 6volt 200mm flywheel which initially I was a bit pissed off about but I am sure I remember someone saying there is a lightweight high torque starter that has a removal cog?
Am I dreaming? Or can someone back up my dodgy memory?
Lee
your thinking of a Brise starter motor maybe?
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leec
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Re: 12 volts starter, 6 volt cog?
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March 09, 2016, 21:44:50 pm »
Yep, wondered if they had the 6 volt cog but 12 volt capacity?
Also, can you not just fit the 12 volt solenoid to a 6 volt starter?
Lee
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DaveN
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Re: 12 volts starter, 6 volt cog?
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March 09, 2016, 22:14:28 pm »
phone them up, they are very helpful, but not cheap.
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dangerous
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Re: 12 volts starter, 6 volt cog?
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March 09, 2016, 22:16:58 pm »
6 volt cogs are/were available from CB for the chinese IMI (and tilton?) starters.
Pretty sure any auto electrician can get them, since they are for the Nippon Denso spline.
Yes, Subaru use a cog that will mesh with the 6 volt ring gear
but an adapter needs to be made to mate the flange up the the VW trans.
crankykits.com.au make such a kit
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leec
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Re: 12 volts starter, 6 volt cog?
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March 09, 2016, 22:39:04 pm »
Thank you for the replies,
Looks like this will do the job
https://www.cbperformance.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=2145
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WPS
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Re: 12 volts starter, 6 volt cog?
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March 11, 2016, 14:51:16 pm »
If you get stuck I can supply one to suit as I use them for the 356 engines I do aswell as the VWs. The pinion gear is changeable in seconds and is unsupported like a semi-auto version so no messing about with bushes etc.....very light and compact (internal solenoid)...been using them for years without any problems but they are about £300.
I guess you bought that Okrasa crank thats been knocking about then?
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speedwell
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Re: 12 volts starter, 6 volt cog?
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March 11, 2016, 18:00:46 pm »
Quote from: nicolas on March 09, 2016, 19:49:13 pm
can't really help with the starter, but i have used a 6 volt starter on a 12 volt car, that works, just don't crank it too long.
i do that since more than 20years now with the same starter and never have any issue
and nicolas , i crank some long time when the car doen't run a long time and same , never have any issue
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leec
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Re: 12 volts starter, 6 volt cog?
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March 11, 2016, 21:46:51 pm »
Quote from: WPS on March 11, 2016, 14:51:16 pm
If you get stuck I can supply one to suit as I use them for the 356 engines I do aswell as the VWs. The pinion gear is changeable in seconds and is unsupported like a semi-auto version so no messing about with bushes etc.....very light and compact (internal solenoid)...been using them for years without any problems but they are about £300.
I guess you bought that Okrasa crank thats been knocking about then?
Hi Ian,
Hope you are well. Thanks for the reply
No Okrasa, it's a 78.4 Demello crank and flywheel. Unknown at time of purchase it has a 6volt flywheel. I thought it was a major drama at first but it seems there are various ways round it now from a starter point of view.
Lee
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