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« Reply #330 on: September 16, 2008, 16:26:36 pm »

Yes, I am going to dyno day.
I will talk to the owner of the dragster and ask if it is OK to share the build, but I don't think there are any problems.

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« Reply #331 on: September 20, 2008, 19:26:17 pm »

I won't build any engine for Richards Dragster, at least this year. We ended up buying Brian Hyerstays spare 1680 engine, dynoed to 208 hp for a very reasonable price.
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« Reply #332 on: September 21, 2008, 00:15:21 am »

i'm sure we'd all love to hear some specs if that's what it's dyno-ed at!!
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« Reply #333 on: September 21, 2008, 08:45:56 am »

i'm sure we'd all love to hear some specs if that's what it's dyno-ed at!!

Berg 69 mm wedgemated counterweighted crank
Berg Thick wall 88's with berg special pistons with dykes rings
Berg Pushrods
Carrillo rods
Stock heads ported by Dick Nuss @ EMS with 42 x 37.5 Del West titanium valves
12.5 compression

Dyoned at Adam Wik's dyno.
197 hp@ 7500 rpm, 198@8000 rpm , 208@8500 rpm, 197@9000 rpm

Best ET 9.28
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« Reply #334 on: September 21, 2008, 15:23:47 pm »

i'm sure we'd all love to hear some specs if that's what it's dyno-ed at!!

Berg 69 mm wedgemated counterweighted crank
Berg Thick wall 88's with berg special pistons with dykes rings
Berg Pushrods
Carrillo rods
Stock heads ported by Dick Nuss @ EMS with 42 x 37.5 Del West titanium valves
12.5 compression

Dyoned at Adam Wik's dyno.
197 hp@ 7500 rpm, 198@8000 rpm , 208@8500 rpm, 197@9000 rpm

Best ET 9.28


Nice, sounds similar to what I want to do when I start on my bug again (moms been in the hospital since July, sick since April, so the bugs on hold till December or later)
I still play with ideas though.
This one is the one I do want to do after seeing that 1600cc earlier in this thread.
1600cc
Forged 85.5's
Forged c/w wedgemated 69mm crank
5.5" connecting rods
Engle FK10 cam
Forged cam gear
10:1 Compression
CB Performances CNC Round ported heads
port matched intakes
Dual 40 or 44IDF's
1 5/8" merged header w/ stinger
Pertronix ignition kit

All to be streetable running on 93 octane
 Grin I was told its doable so who knows.
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« Reply #335 on: September 21, 2008, 21:57:50 pm »

sounds high strung, but i ain't no expert Wink
why wouldn't you go for a few more cc's with machine 88s?
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« Reply #336 on: September 22, 2008, 04:25:02 am »

sounds high strung, but i ain't no expert Wink
why wouldn't you go for a few more cc's with machine 88s?

Well I like that 1600cc at the beginning and i want one to Sad
Accept I cant afford those 86mm pistons LOL
Is high strung bad?
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« Reply #337 on: September 22, 2008, 10:18:10 am »

Is high strung bad?

OHHH no! The most bang for the cc!! is fun!
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« Reply #338 on: September 22, 2008, 18:04:48 pm »


Nice, sounds similar to what I want to do when I start on my bug again (moms been in the hospital since July, sick since April, so the bugs on hold till December or later)
I still play with ideas though.
This one is the one I do want to do after seeing that 1600cc earlier in this thread.
1600cc
Forged 85.5's
Forged c/w wedgemated 69mm crank
5.5" connecting rods
Engle FK10 cam
Forged cam gear
10:1 Compression
CB Performances CNC Round ported heads
port matched intakes
Dual 40 or 44IDF's
1 5/8" merged header w/ stinger
Pertronix ignition kit

All to be streetable running on 93 octane
 Grin I was told its doable so who knows.

I don't want to dissapoint you but it won't make any monster horsepower. I called Pat Downs some days ago about a budget small CC engine and he suggested CNC ported Comp eliminators a 1915 and that would maybe be able to do about 210 hp...
There is no off the shelf heads today that can make 123 hp per liter. I know that both EMS and JPM charges about $4500 for these kind of heads.

You won't need any wedgemate either, an 8-dowel done right will work perfect.
Skip the aftermarket rods and spend them on the pistons instead. Go for a 1 1/2" exhaust instead of a 1 5/8".
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« Reply #339 on: September 22, 2008, 18:06:50 pm »

The Carrillo's in the dragster motor are only 5" long as I remember.
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« Reply #340 on: September 23, 2008, 03:15:24 am »

How about if I used slip in 87's with a slip in 74mm crank then, but with the same combo above?
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« Reply #341 on: September 23, 2008, 07:24:13 am »

awesome,i like the mouse motor trends Grin
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« Reply #342 on: September 23, 2008, 20:11:58 pm »

How about if I used slip in 87's with a slip in 74mm crank then, but with the same combo above?

Sounds like a Claude's Buggie's motor from 1985.
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« Reply #343 on: September 25, 2008, 03:40:58 am »

How about if I used slip in 87's with a slip in 74mm crank then, but with the same combo above?

Sounds like a Claude's Buggie's motor from 1985.

Who?
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« Reply #344 on: September 25, 2008, 06:03:12 am »

How about if I used slip in 87's with a slip in 74mm crank then, but with the same combo above?

Sounds like a Claude's Buggie's motor from 1985.

Who?
Claudes Buggies. Now known as CB Performance.
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« Reply #345 on: September 28, 2008, 01:37:34 am »

How about a small mouse? Actually a very small mouse...  a Quarter Mouse!!

Picture by Fredrik "Frallan" Reichel
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« Reply #346 on: September 28, 2008, 01:57:05 am »

How about a small mouse? Actually a very small mouse...  a Quarter Mouse!!

Picture by Fredrik "Frallan" Reichel

 Huh Shocked Huh Shocked Huh Shocked Huh Wink Smiley
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« Reply #347 on: September 28, 2008, 04:19:12 am »

a 1/4 mouse, what?  Huh Huh
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« Reply #348 on: September 28, 2008, 16:07:20 pm »

a 1/4 mouse, what?  Huh Huh

[url]http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,6750.msg100845.html#new[/url Smiley
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« Reply #349 on: September 29, 2008, 01:59:19 am »

cool, are they fast or anything?What do they do in the 1/4 mile?
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« Reply #350 on: November 19, 2008, 12:11:49 pm »

What happend to the mouse motor pictures? Can they still be seen somewhere?
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« Reply #351 on: November 29, 2008, 03:20:21 am »

What happend to the mouse motor pictures? Can they still be seen somewhere?

I have now fixed the broken links Cool
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« Reply #352 on: December 05, 2008, 21:32:13 pm »

WOW!
Thanks for the pics,
nice to finally see the heads.
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« Reply #353 on: January 13, 2009, 06:31:22 am »

My new mouse motor
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« Reply #354 on: January 13, 2009, 06:33:40 am »

More
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« Reply #355 on: January 13, 2009, 10:30:49 am »

My new mouse motor

Come don't lleave us hanging we NEED some more info on this one  Shocked Wink Smiley
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« Reply #356 on: January 13, 2009, 11:46:52 am »

looks like twin over head cam, 16V, twin plug motor.

Very nice work...

Have been sketching up a simular item for my motor, although not a mouse motor more like a dirty big rat.


love some more info on it.


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« Reply #357 on: January 13, 2009, 13:06:03 pm »

1946vw, I will not tell you that engine looks good, actually I think it is ugly.  Roll Eyes

But hell, does that monster look lovely or what Shocked Shocked
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« Reply #358 on: January 13, 2009, 14:12:11 pm »

a 1/4 mouse, what?  Huh Huh

1/4 mouse with cheese, or in metric a royal mouse.  Grin
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« Reply #359 on: January 13, 2009, 18:35:50 pm »

Better 8 dowel that crank, at least Wink
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