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Jim Ratto
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« on: December 07, 2007, 21:54:47 pm »

Post your best idea of  1980's killer street and strip 1776 guys....
no fair using MSD and CNC heads...etc.  Grin
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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2007, 22:28:36 pm »

110 cam
44 webers
Mofoco heads
bergman shortblock
009
Empi 4 tip exhaust
chrome engine tin

 Grin Wink

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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2007, 22:41:34 pm »

110 cam
44 webers
Mofoco heads
bergman shortblock
009
Empi 4 tip exhaust
chrome engine tin

 Grin Wink

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 Roll Eyes......sigh.... Grin

I was thinking of something like Dumper's motor....
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2007, 23:20:49 pm »

I guess I will get ball rolling:

90.5 Cima's
VW dealer fuel inj "filled" case
Polished stock 311B rods
Tony Mance/Rimco 69mm wedgmated/12lb VW flywheel
Engle K8 or even FK-10
11.5:1
FF 42 x 37 welded VW heads with vasco-jets, ti retainers, small oval ports or Pauter heads, 'B' welded 42 x 37's, done by Mary
48IDAs on real McCoy Skat Traks, Tayco Pro-comp x-bar
Vertex locked mag
1-5/8 Four Tuned header with dual quiets with BLACK tailpipes
engine shrouding match painted to car color, except chrome pulley, backing plate behind alternator, aluminum firewall
VDO gauge senders, case painted VHT black
Santana power pulley


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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2007, 23:23:56 pm »

I guess I will get ball rolling:

90.5 Cima's
VW dealer fuel inj "filled" case
Polished stock 311B rods
Tony Mance/Rimco 69mm wedgmated/12lb VW flywheel
Engle K8 or even FK-10
11.5:1
FF 42 x 37 welded VW heads with vasco-jets, ti retainers, small oval ports or Pauter heads, 'B' welded 42 x 37's, done by Mary
48IDAs on real McCoy Skat Traks, Tayco Pro-comp x-bar
Vertex locked mag
1-5/8 Four Tuned header with dual quiets with BLACK tailpipes
engine shrouding match painted to car color, except chrome pulley, backing plate behind alternator, aluminum firewall
VDO gauge senders, case painted VHT black
Santana power pulley



how many HP ??
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2007, 23:25:32 pm »

Hi Fab,

I personally that this motor should give 180HP...

Frank
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« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2007, 23:31:37 pm »

I guess I will get ball rolling:

90.5 Cima's
VW dealer fuel inj "filled" case
Polished stock 311B rods
Tony Mance/Rimco 69mm wedgmated/12lb VW flywheel
Engle K8 or even FK-10
11.5:1
FF 42 x 37 welded VW heads with vasco-jets, ti retainers, small oval ports or Pauter heads, 'B' welded 42 x 37's, done by Mary
48IDAs on real McCoy Skat Traks, Tayco Pro-comp x-bar
Vertex locked mag
1-5/8 Four Tuned header with dual quiets with BLACK tailpipes
engine shrouding match painted to car color, except chrome pulley, backing plate behind alternator, aluminum firewall
VDO gauge senders, case painted VHT black
Santana power pulley



how many HP ??

38   Grin
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« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2007, 23:32:40 pm »

 Hey Guys,

This is what the Old Motor in Nico's Muppet Racer was...

VW Case
Welded counterweigted Crank, VW 69mm
Mahle 90.5 P/C's with Total Seal 2nd Rings
Engle FK-10 Cam
Straight Cuts Steel/Steel
Scat Lifters
Scat 1.25 Rocker...Measured out to be 1.35
Weber 48IDA's
Skat Trak Manifolds
Joe Hunt Magneto
Santana Pulley
12.5 Flywheel

HEADS done by Steve's VW Shop (Mr. LGK on the Lounge)  Wink Grin Grin
40x35.5 Manley S/S Valves
Dual Berg Springs

9.5 CR!!!!

Motor pushed out 165 HP!!!

Far from Max HP potential, but too low a CR at that Moment... Wink

Frank
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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2007, 23:36:03 pm »

I guess I will get ball rolling:

90.5 Cima's
VW dealer fuel inj "filled" case
Polished stock 311B rods
Tony Mance/Rimco 69mm wedgmated/12lb VW flywheel
Engle K8 or even FK-10
11.5:1
FF 42 x 37 welded VW heads with vasco-jets, ti retainers, small oval ports or Pauter heads, 'B' welded 42 x 37's, done by Mary
48IDAs on real McCoy Skat Traks, Tayco Pro-comp x-bar
Vertex locked mag
1-5/8 Four Tuned header with dual quiets with BLACK tailpipes
engine shrouding match painted to car color, except chrome pulley, backing plate behind alternator, aluminum firewall
VDO gauge senders, case painted VHT black
Santana power pulley



how many HP ??

38   Grin

  Huh Huh Grin Grin Grin

Frank
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1953 Split Window, 1799cc, 48 IDA's, Don Zig Magneto,  OG BRM's...in da works...
SumFun Racecar, 2332cc, 48 IDA's, Magneto
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2007, 23:41:58 pm »

just having fun buddy...

(just wait until PUI time later with mega beer)  Grin
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2007, 23:46:35 pm »

just having fun buddy...

(just wait until PUI time later with mega beer)  Grin

Me No Compredee, Maybe Too Much of This Shit... Wink Grin Grin

Oooops, sorry Wrong Tread... Grin Grin Grin

Frank
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1953 Split Window, 1799cc, 48 IDA's, Don Zig Magneto,  OG BRM's...in da works...
SumFun Racecar, 2332cc, 48 IDA's, Magneto
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2007, 23:49:25 pm »

now I am thirsty Frank!!  Grin
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2007, 23:52:11 pm »

now I am thirsty Frank!!  Grin

 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

BTW,

All those Jack Lovers would kill me if they Knew....

Only Single Barrels Jack on Diet Pepsi for Me.... Grin Grin Grin

Frank
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1953 Split Window, 1799cc, 48 IDA's, Don Zig Magneto,  OG BRM's...in da works...
SumFun Racecar, 2332cc, 48 IDA's, Magneto
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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2007, 00:02:54 am »

I guess I will get ball rolling:

90.5 Cima's
VW dealer fuel inj "filled" case
Polished stock 311B rods
Tony Mance/Rimco 69mm wedgmated/12lb VW flywheel
Engle K8 or even FK-10
11.5:1
FF 42 x 37 welded VW heads with vasco-jets, ti retainers, small oval ports or Pauter heads, 'B' welded 42 x 37's, done by Mary
48IDAs on real McCoy Skat Traks, Tayco Pro-comp x-bar
Vertex locked mag
1-5/8 Four Tuned header with dual quiets with BLACK tailpipes
engine shrouding match painted to car color, except chrome pulley, backing plate behind alternator, aluminum firewall
VDO gauge senders, case painted VHT black
Santana power pulley

40 x 35.5 heads by FF. Bump the comp up another notch too.
W 130 cam

--louis
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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2007, 00:18:55 am »

One of the nastiest 1776cc motors I have ever had the pleasure of meeting, was built by Doug Berg, for as a sprint car class motor. K10 cam, Berg rockers, huge heads, 48IDAs, very large sump. I don't know what the horsepower was. But Doug took me for a test ride, on the street, while the motor was in the S Muffin. We "cruised" around for quite a while. And to say the least... I was amazed. Very high revving, and built to stay at high revs for a long time.
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« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2007, 01:02:35 am »

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

BTW,

All those Jack Lovers would kill me if they Knew....

Only Single Barrels Jack on Diet Pepsi for Me.... Grin Grin Grin

Frank

You cant ruin Single Barrell with Coke!! Especially diet!!! Single Barrell only gets a splash of water!!!!!!!!!  Grin
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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2007, 01:07:23 am »

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

BTW,

All those Jack Lovers would kill me if they Knew....

Only Single Barrels Jack on Diet Pepsi for Me.... Grin Grin Grin

Frank

You cant ruin Single Barrell with Coke!! Especially diet!!! Single Barrell only gets a splash of water!!!!!!!!!  Grin

Well,

I just did It again... Wink Grin Grin

Sorry,

Frank
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1953 Split Window, 1799cc, 48 IDA's, Don Zig Magneto,  OG BRM's...in da works...
SumFun Racecar, 2332cc, 48 IDA's, Magneto
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« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2007, 03:23:31 am »

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

BTW,

All those Jack Lovers would kill me if they Knew....

Only Single Barrels Jack on Diet Pepsi for Me.... Grin Grin Grin

Frank

You cant ruin Single Barrell with Coke!! Especially diet!!! Single Barrell only gets a splash of water!!!!!!!!!  Grin

Now yer talkin' Zach! Hey Frank what is with the straw Huh Grin Friday nights probably have the highest percentage of PUIs Cheesy I should crunch some numbers and...naw F it time for a beer.
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« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2007, 19:36:03 pm »

Hey Jim do you still have your old web cam 86c. If you do I would like to buy. I also need to find a good set of 48 idas if you know anybody that has some or maybe the new ida. I still have a World Pac account. I think its time to freshen up the old motor. Im thinking new set of scat rods  different cam  and as much compression as I can get out of that motor.


Bryan
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« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2007, 22:35:30 pm »

You know how this one ran Jim  Wink

1776
90.5 Cimas
69 mm DMS crank
Rimco 13 lb flywheel
Berg 6.5 lb power pulley
Engle W125 w/Magnum gears
Tayco racing lifters
VW 1.25 rockers/ Berg Solid shafts
9.3:1 CR
welded & ported 40 x 35.5 heads, dual springs, ti retainers
Berg/Stinger S4 ignition
1 5/8 w/ dual qps
48 IDAs w/37 vents 135 mains
Scat Trak tall manifolds & Berg linkage



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« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2007, 22:37:13 pm »

Hey Jim do you still have your old web cam 86c. If you do I would like to buy. I also need to find a good set of 48 idas if you know anybody that has some or maybe the new ida. I still have a World Pac account. I think its time to freshen up the old motor. Im thinking new set of scat rods  different cam  and as much compression as I can get out of that motor.


Bryan

I have an 86B new in box for ya Bryan. Cheap for you  Grin PM me.
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« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2007, 23:28:44 pm »

Hey Jim do you still have your old web cam 86c. If you do I would like to buy. I also need to find a good set of 48 idas if you know anybody that has some or maybe the new ida. I still have a World Pac account. I think its time to freshen up the old motor. Im thinking new set of scat rods  different cam  and as much compression as I can get out of that motor.


Bryan

Hi Bryan, nope Darrel has my old hard weld 86C... Sad

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« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2007, 20:34:16 pm »

Derek's short-lived 1776 ran very hard, where your 044's ended up John.
Talk about a budget motor too...
your welded 40 x 35 heads, Engle K8 advanced 4 deg, .020/.020 cwt crank, 12lbflywheel, 9.8:1, 48IDAs with 36mm vents. Thing was an animal until the cheap straight cut Bugpack gear came loose on crank.  Cry
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« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2007, 01:46:00 am »

Yeah, that motor was kind of fun until the cam gear nightmare.  Undecided

The original BH special 1776 in the car with the Engle 100 and 48 IDA's really put up well with tens of thousands of miles while being abused Smiley  And it actually ran nicely with that combo  Cheesy

Next motor will be much more fun  Grin Grin
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« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2007, 01:47:35 am »

Yeah, that motor was kind of fun until the cam gear nightmare.  Undecided

Next motor will be much more fun  Grin Grin

ya think?  Grin
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« Reply #25 on: December 12, 2007, 01:49:58 am »

Yeah, that motor was kind of fun until the cam gear nightmare.  Undecided

Next motor will be much more fun  Grin Grin

ya think?  Grin

Yes I do James, yes I do.   Cool
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« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2007, 01:52:51 am »

umm...?  Grin
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« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2007, 01:57:16 am »

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« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2007, 01:59:23 am »

ha hahaha   Grin that's gonna be your neighbors once this thing comes to life.
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« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2007, 02:09:40 am »

I'll just anonymously deliver boxes of these to their mailboxes and hope they get the clue  Grin

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