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« Reply #210 on: June 29, 2009, 16:04:51 pm »

sorry mate no can do.  Once the workshop reaches 40C / 104F  - I'm outta there!

Woo! That's even hotter than my classroom! I just had one of the Year 10 lads nearly faint with the heat! Shocked
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« Reply #211 on: June 29, 2009, 17:50:19 pm »

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« Reply #212 on: June 29, 2009, 20:39:02 pm »

... sorry mate no can do.  Once the workshop reaches 40C / 104F  - I'm outta there! ...

Lightweight!  Grin
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« Reply #213 on: June 30, 2009, 11:54:43 am »

... sorry mate no can do.  Once the workshop reaches 40C / 104F  - I'm outta there! ...

Lightweight!  Grin

Crack a cold beer and carry on!   lol
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« Reply #214 on: July 01, 2009, 22:46:13 pm »

is it me, or does the crank gear look like it's been machined down?

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« Reply #215 on: July 02, 2009, 14:22:54 pm »

looks like it, i think i saw the same thing done in Geer's pro-stock? motor in one of those hot vw's issues (crank gear narrowed to match that on the cam). Any benefit to doing this?
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« Reply #216 on: July 21, 2009, 18:24:22 pm »

You may have already spotted these Phil/Pete, but if not, they sound mighty cool for your rides...

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=745441
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« Reply #217 on: July 27, 2009, 22:08:29 pm »

I've been doing my best to ignore the weight saving thing, as best as an addict can anyway, so I don't need any encouragement from you to get distracted! Having said that they do look nice.......

But I'm being good and concentrating on getting the car running again, which all being well should be in the next 2-3 weeks to get some miles on the motor on the street to check all is well before getting to the track at the end of the month, and of course popping round to yours for a brew! Can't wait to see your car for real and better still see it go!

Fingers crossed for good weather!
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« Reply #218 on: August 07, 2009, 17:03:12 pm »

I'm after a tiny ally drag button bottom pulley as light as possible to replace my current one weighing in at 2,722gms.

Anything available in the UK?  I like the look of the CE one in the US but it's not in stock.

That's big weight right at the back of the car...

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« Reply #219 on: August 07, 2009, 17:15:05 pm »

Have you thought about rear disk brakes Phil? I know it's quite a costly thing to change but there is huge weight losses to be had removing the drums!
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« Reply #220 on: August 07, 2009, 17:44:38 pm »

gotta be wide 5.  Don't know of any complete rear disc setup in wide 5 that's lighter than stock except maybe the Neal and we're talking mega money
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« Reply #221 on: August 07, 2009, 18:17:48 pm »

Is that because of your existing wheel set-up your looking for wide 5? You could always ask Jack to make a wide 5 hub to fit the lightweight brakes! Out of interest how much are the neal brakes? The Jaycee ones are about $1k a set
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« Reply #222 on: August 08, 2009, 07:25:54 am »

Partly due to the existing wheels which fit really well and also I just like the wide 5 look.

Reckon a set of those lighweight ones from Jack would be lovely in a wide 5.  They would be a fair bit heavier than yours due to the bigger hub.  As long as the offset was the same and he could supply 14mm studs they would be v. nice!
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« Reply #223 on: August 11, 2009, 21:22:55 pm »

Hi all,

Just had go at making some bonnet hinges having been inspired by young Phil, 152grams each, total saving of 1.4kg for the pair,

andy
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« Reply #224 on: August 11, 2009, 21:28:05 pm »

Very nice but won't they show the rest of the car up!!!!! :-)
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« Reply #225 on: August 11, 2009, 21:29:51 pm »

well you have to start somewhere, and at least mine runs... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #226 on: August 11, 2009, 21:31:34 pm »

Hi all,

Just had go at making some bonnet hinges having been inspired by young Phil, 152grams each, total saving of 1.4kg for the pair,

andy

could you make mesome herr marriot, i'll hold your torsion bars to ransom Grin
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« Reply #227 on: August 11, 2009, 21:34:04 pm »

well you have to start somewhere, and at least mine runs... Roll Eyes

So does mine now Wink
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« Reply #228 on: August 11, 2009, 21:40:56 pm »

... Just had go at making some bonnet hinges having been inspired by young Phil ...

What's so odd about those?  Huh

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« Reply #229 on: August 11, 2009, 22:43:00 pm »

could you make mesome herr marriot, i'll hold your torsion bars to ransom Grin

So have these mythical bars turned up?

If so we'll meet on the bridge at midnight and exchange hostages, wear a red carnation,

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« Reply #230 on: August 11, 2009, 22:59:12 pm »

Impressed! Especially as you have access to an aluminium spot welder Cool Luxury! Very nice indeed Andy Cool Cool Cool
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« Reply #231 on: August 11, 2009, 23:08:00 pm »

could you make mesome herr marriot, i'll hold your torsion bars to ransom Grin

So have these mythical bars turned up?

If so we'll meet on the bridge at midnight and exchange hostages, wear a red carnation,

grey squirrel
Good evening nighthawk, I will rendezvous with the enigma parts decoder in the morning as i have been to the motherland last weekend and have not as yet been to HQ! I have a day and a half in the control centre before operation SCC, I will message you in the morning Grin
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« Reply #232 on: August 12, 2009, 00:01:43 am »

Those look very nice!!
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« Reply #233 on: August 12, 2009, 06:01:56 am »

Hi all,

Just had go at making some bonnet hinges having been inspired by young Phil, 152grams each, total saving of 1.4kg for the pair,

andy
Wow, you've lowered the bar by a 100g over Phil's hinges.
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« Reply #234 on: August 12, 2009, 06:02:43 am »

Phil,
have a look at this pic of your car you posted from the previous page:

http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5293.0;attach=31521;image

What's with the extra long fender bolts?  One that's 10mm shorter will do.  Then you can also use aluminium bolts.  Or even lighter still is nylon bolts.
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« Reply #235 on: August 12, 2009, 06:07:19 am »

..... you have access to an aluminium spot welder .....
It's all the same.  The spot welder doesn't know the metal between the jaws.
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« Reply #236 on: August 12, 2009, 06:25:29 am »

Phil,
have a look at this pic of your car you posted from the previous page:

http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5293.0;attach=31521;image

What's with the extra long fender bolts?  One that's 10mm shorter will do.  Then you can also use aluminium bolts.  Or even lighter still is nylon bolts.


The bolts are already ally - they are the shortest I could find (15mm thread length) but I you know of a UK supplier that will do a 10mm M8 in the potassium bichromate I'm up for it.  I suppose it would save me about 1gram per bolt.  To compensate I only use every other bolt in the wings and removed the wing beading.
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« Reply #237 on: August 12, 2009, 06:29:35 am »

Hi all,

Just had go at making some bonnet hinges having been inspired by young Phil, 152grams each, total saving of 1.4kg for the pair,

andy
Wow, you've lowered the bar by a 100g over Phil's hinges.


Yep that's 95 grams less - from thinner material and the far bigger holes.  Since fitting mine they are fairly wobbly side to side with the bonnet up so Andy's are going to be really unstable if there's a gust of wind.  That said I will start to make the holes bigger.
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« Reply #238 on: August 12, 2009, 07:53:48 am »

Bruce is right, a spot welder is a spot welder, the only difference is that you need plenty of grunt to spot weld ali, over 10kw normally. Thankfully mine is 3 phase. To spot weld ali with a single phase welder there is a little trick, slip a thin bit of mild steel between the ali and the welding tips and hey presto ali spot welding. This increases the resistance and there fore the heat generated. Still takes a long duration though, some times over 2 seconds.

You are right Phil they are quite thin but a i wont be leaving the bonnet up in a gale and the flaring does dramatically stiffen the ali. I shall fit them at the weekend and do a wobble test, they are only in the prototype stage at the moment.

Andy
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« Reply #239 on: August 12, 2009, 08:48:37 am »

..... you have access to an aluminium spot welder .....
It's all the same.  The spot welder doesn't know the metal between the jaws.

Try spot welding ali with a regular commercial spot welder... it aint happening Grin. You need massive electrical power to spot ali Wink
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