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« Reply #180 on: November 17, 2009, 05:43:55 am »

Its amazeing how you guys figure that stuff out.My hats off to ya, Cant wait to see it run, It was great before all of this.
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« Reply #181 on: November 17, 2009, 06:36:53 am »

Thanks Richie -- -- I'll have to look and see if my magic box can do that -- would differentially be cheaper than buying those 1000gph injectors
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« Reply #182 on: November 17, 2009, 06:52:46 am »

Well today got the oil lines,boost pipes &lines finished,I also had changed my mind on the oil return to the sump from the filter head,so had a couple of fitting welded to the sump and then tapped it for the oil temp senders.Next a couple of wiring changes and put the manifolds back on and it should be ready Smiley

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« Reply #183 on: November 18, 2009, 19:14:09 pm »

Well there is just 1 pipe left,the pipe from the chargecooler to throttle body just didnt line up as well as I wanted so I have cut it up and changed it,I will get it finished today and see if it runs tonight,fingers crossed Grin

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« Reply #184 on: November 18, 2009, 19:45:23 pm »

Brilliant! go Ritchie! Smiley
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« Reply #185 on: November 19, 2009, 00:55:24 am »

The funny thing is it doesn't look like much going on in the engine bay; It's all happening on the back seat.
Make sure you video the testdrive on Katella Ave. Cheesy

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« Reply #186 on: November 19, 2009, 02:51:33 am »

The funny thing is it doesn't look like much going on in the engine bay; It's all happening on the back seat.
Make sure you video the testdrive on Katella Ave. Cheesy

Frank

Theres a reason why theres no pictures from inside the back of the car Wink  sand it will proberly be slightly further away as all the orads round here are being dug up,not ideal for a gentle test drive Cheesy

Well it is all done,got the pipe done and fitted,checked everything else is good,took an educated guess on a fuel& ignition map and its ready, just waiting for the people in the next workshop to go home so I can start it


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« Reply #187 on: November 19, 2009, 04:54:27 am »

grumpy dave crebs GO HOME so Ritchy can make some noise. many moons ago when i had my stutska i was making some noise in the middle of the day  Grin Grin  and old GRUMPY came over and said SHUT THAT THING OFF  and i said GO FU// YOUR SELF. ive been hear longer than you. go ahead call the cops. hell jhons custom marine makes more noise in the middel of the day why cant i. you gotta show that guy whos boss . UD . 
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« Reply #188 on: November 19, 2009, 06:59:45 am »

well what happen boss.   UD .
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« Reply #189 on: November 19, 2009, 07:47:46 am »

Jeff,I am only a newbie on the Katella block Wink   
Anyway apart from a leaky push rod tube seal its all good,I had to add a bunch more fuel than I thought,the header glowing red just bedding the cam in was a little surprising Shocked Its all good now,tommorow some street drivng should give me more idea of what it wants but it does sound different and good Smiley

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« Reply #190 on: November 19, 2009, 08:17:38 am »

Nice work Richie!
Do you follow any piston ring break in procedure? 
Oil pressure/external relief worked ok?
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« Reply #191 on: November 19, 2009, 17:34:09 pm »

Hi Richie

Looking forward to see the beast running so i hope your going to video it Huh

and share with the rest of us Wink

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« Reply #192 on: November 19, 2009, 18:50:43 pm »

Nice work Richie!
Do you follow any piston ring break in procedure? 
Oil pressure/external relief worked ok?

Yes,give it about 5 miles gentle cruising to make sure its all ok,then boost it Cheesy  i like to put load on it as soon as possible,just a few pounds of boost seals them up really quick.

The external relief seems good,took a couple of goes to get the pressure where I wanted it,and I will have to adjust it some more as the break in oil is thicker than I will run normally so the pressure will change when I swap

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« Reply #193 on: November 19, 2009, 18:58:59 pm »

Hi Richie

Looking forward to see the beast running so i hope your going to video it Huh

and share with the rest of us Wink

Wray

I am also looking forward to some running in vids Smiley

Congrats on some epic engineering Richie!
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« Reply #194 on: November 19, 2009, 19:08:12 pm »

Does make it look easy  Shocked
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« Reply #195 on: November 19, 2009, 19:33:20 pm »

Hi Richie

Looking forward to see the beast running so i hope your going to video it Huh

and share with the rest of us Wink

Wray

I think I can mange that Smiley
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« Reply #196 on: November 19, 2009, 20:24:04 pm »

which heads are you running at the moment, angle flows or the JPM ?

It will be great to see the different numbers and engine temps that either setup runs

good luck



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« Reply #197 on: November 19, 2009, 21:16:58 pm »

which heads are you running at the moment, angle flows or the JPM ?

I Know put a JPM on one side and a angle port on the other and you can tell which one is best but the direction the car pulls as your going down the drag strip
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« Reply #198 on: November 19, 2009, 22:04:06 pm »

grumpy dave crebs GO HOME so Ritchy can make some noise. many moons ago when i had my stutska i was making some noise in the middle of the day  Grin Grin  and old GRUMPY came over and said SHUT THAT THING OFF  and i said GO FU// YOUR SELF. ive been hear longer than you. go ahead call the cops. hell jhons custom marine makes more noise in the middel of the day why cant i. you gotta show that guy whos boss . UD . 

It's like some kind of soap opera on Katella.  Grin
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« Reply #199 on: November 19, 2009, 22:34:47 pm »

Hmmmm? will a high output engine like the turbocharged ones require a higher oil pressure? There will be much more load on the bearings (rod bearings) would it be smart to turn up the pressure to avoid " breaking trough" the oil film, or is it smarter to be sure that the oil passes trough the bearings faster?? Any ideas or know how out there?

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« Reply #200 on: November 19, 2009, 23:57:43 pm »

Sweet - well done - hope it all works as planned Smiley
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« Reply #201 on: November 20, 2009, 00:56:45 am »

which heads are you running at the moment, angle flows or the JPM ?

It will be great to see the different numbers and engine temps that either setup runs

good luck





Ron,this is the JPM headed version,I will see how it works,dynos and runs at the track then try the Angleflows.


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« Reply #202 on: November 20, 2009, 00:57:59 am »

which heads are you running at the moment, angle flows or the JPM ?

I Know put a JPM on one side and a angle port on the other and you can tell which one is best but the direction the car pulls as your going down the drag strip

Up towards the sky Cheesy
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« Reply #203 on: November 20, 2009, 01:03:37 am »

Hmmmm? will a high output engine like the turbocharged ones require a higher oil pressure? There will be much more load on the bearings (rod bearings) would it be smart to turn up the pressure to avoid " breaking trough" the oil film, or is it smarter to be sure that the oil passes trough the bearings faster?? Any ideas or know how out there?



The way I understand it is that as hp[load] increases so does the pressure on everything else,I have tried as low as 40lbs oil pressure and as high as 100lbs and not seen any real evidence of noticable difference,however changing oil brand& viscosicity and type[mineral,semi and fully synthetic] makes a huge difference.But clean oil at the correct temperature is much more important,Also bearing material and quality make a huge difference


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« Reply #204 on: November 21, 2009, 13:51:35 pm »

Awesome Richie... way to go fella.

Cheers

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« Reply #205 on: November 22, 2009, 13:25:51 pm »

... way to go fella ...

Thinking of stepping up?  Shocked  Cheesy
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« Reply #206 on: November 25, 2009, 06:35:34 am »

Well I got a chance to put a few miles on it today,it is so different to a 2332 Shocked
 So much smoother,i will do some more tommorow and then start to see what it feels like with some boost Smiley Maybe i will take the incar camera with me Wink

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« Reply #207 on: November 25, 2009, 10:17:04 am »

Yes Richie,let us see and feel the POWER.  Wink
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« Reply #208 on: November 25, 2009, 14:08:56 pm »

... Well I got a chance to put a few miles on it today,it is so different to a 2332
 So much smoother,i will do some more tommorow and then start to see what it feels like with some boost ...

Sounds like fun.  Cool
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« Reply #209 on: November 28, 2009, 19:17:35 pm »

... way to go fella ...

Thinking of stepping up?  Shocked  Cheesy

A finished car would be a start! ah, one day...

hope all is well Mat.

Cheers

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