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Author Topic: JPM head/TF1 case build and car mods for Hot rod drag week 2019 in Old cabrio  (Read 277995 times)
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« Reply #330 on: September 28, 2015, 08:57:55 am »
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« Reply #331 on: September 28, 2015, 21:01:10 pm »
The coolest thing at drag week this year (and all other years too btw) is seeing pro-mod cars idling down the freeway with wheelie bars, shutes and tow hitches no less! Almost hilarious, but soooo cool!

Will the cabrio also have a tow hitch and pulling a U-haul trailer?  Grin
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« Reply #332 on: September 28, 2015, 23:51:58 pm »
Quote from: Airspeed on September 28, 2015, 21:01:10 pm
The coolest thing at drag week this year (and all other years too btw) is seeing pro-mod cars idling down the freeway with wheelie bars, shutes and tow hitches no less! Almost hilarious, but soooo cool!

Will the cabrio also have a tow hitch and pulling a U-haul trailer?  Grin

Yes but trailer will just have a gennie in it? to provide electric to boil kettle    Grin


But seriously just need to get this finished and drive it around and see how practical it is, fuel consumption could be an issue as want to keep the standard tank like I use now

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« Reply #333 on: September 29, 2015, 00:22:47 am »
Quote from: richie on September 28, 2015, 23:51:58 pm
Yes but trailer will just have a gennie in it? to provide electric to boil kettle    Grin

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« Reply #334 on: October 01, 2015, 20:27:42 pm »
Quote from: richie on September 28, 2015, 23:51:58 pm
Quote from: Airspeed on September 28, 2015, 21:01:10 pm
The coolest thing at drag week this year (and all other years too btw) is seeing pro-mod cars idling down the freeway with wheelie bars, shutes and tow hitches no less! Almost hilarious, but soooo cool!

Will the cabrio also have a tow hitch and pulling a U-haul trailer?  Grin

 as want to keep the standard tank like I use now

cheers Richie

Richie, You must run a surge tank yes?
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« Reply #335 on: October 01, 2015, 20:29:23 pm »
Quote from: spanners on October 01, 2015, 20:27:42 pm
Quote from: richie on September 28, 2015, 23:51:58 pm
Quote from: Airspeed on September 28, 2015, 21:01:10 pm
The coolest thing at drag week this year (and all other years too btw) is seeing pro-mod cars idling down the freeway with wheelie bars, shutes and tow hitches no less! Almost hilarious, but soooo cool!

Will the cabrio also have a tow hitch and pulling a U-haul trailer?  Grin

 as want to keep the standard tank like I use now

cheers Richie

Richie, You must run a surge tank yes?

No, never seen the need for it

cheers Richie
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« Reply #336 on: November 02, 2015, 02:09:58 am »
Ok, still waiting on custom length head studs, Raceware seem a little behind right now,but the roller lifter covers were finished, heads and cylinders mocked up to check were pushrod tubes needed to be with the JPM heads in the lifter covers, then they were machined in. I got it all back now so cleaning will commence and bottom end can go together Smiley
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« Reply #337 on: November 02, 2015, 16:06:16 pm »
Awesome Richie.  I went back and watched the videos of the V1 of this motor.  I can't wait to see what this one is capable of.

On page 8-9 you commented about the location of the turbo and it pumping heat into the fan.  Did you notice a difference in temps with the coated exhaust?  Any additional plans for v2?  Would a Porsche style fan help?
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« Reply #338 on: November 03, 2015, 17:03:29 pm »
Quote from: hotstreetvw on November 02, 2015, 16:06:16 pm

On page 8-9 you commented about the location of the turbo and it pumping heat into the fan.  Did you notice a difference in temps with the coated exhaust?  Any additional plans for v2?  Would a Porsche style fan help?


I never did get enough miles on it to reach any real conclusion, but I know from running coated J tubes on 2&4 and raw header on 1&3 on engine in car at moment that the coated part has over 125f less heat on outside measuring with a Laser heat gun so its definitely keeping heat inside better
Not totally convinced by the 911 fan and shroud set ups so not tried that route, maybe if you could seal fan ring to outside say under license plate area with hole cut under plate it might be better to keep heat out, bit like a type 3 fan is sealed to body of car

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« Reply #339 on: November 03, 2015, 21:06:57 pm »
hi Richie

I take it that you can use standard lifters with these cases as you converted this one. Couldn't see what crank you're using 90MM ?

Is a 4" bore case the same money as the 94mm case?
 
Anyway great thread  Cool
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« Reply #340 on: November 03, 2015, 21:29:04 pm »
Quote from: Ron Elliot on November 03, 2015, 21:06:57 pm
hi Richie

I take it that you can use standard lifters with these cases as you converted this one. Couldn't see what crank your using 90MM ?

Is a 4" bore case the same money as the 94mm case?
 
Anyway great thread  Cool

Hi Ron, yes they come ready for standard type lifter, cases all cost same whatever bore size, I don't think I put what crank size I am using but not that big  Grin

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« Reply #341 on: November 04, 2015, 01:51:54 am »
So many secrets at this level of performance.   Smiley
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« Reply #342 on: November 04, 2015, 17:54:52 pm »
Quote from: richie on November 02, 2015, 02:09:58 am
Ok, still waiting on custom length head studs, Raceware seem a little behind right now,but the roller lifter covers were finished, heads and cylinders mocked up to check were pushrod tubes needed to be with the JPM heads in the lifter covers, then they were machined in. I got it all back now so cleaning will commence and bottom end can go together Smiley



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« Reply #343 on: November 05, 2015, 21:03:06 pm »
i want to see 64mm  Grin
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« Reply #344 on: November 05, 2015, 21:11:38 pm »
I had to mess around with a few things on the case like the small 8mm case studs being to long or to short, just double check everything then get the other old engine back together after fitting new head studs and off the stand so I could get this on. Now finally I can start assembly Smiley
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« Reply #345 on: November 06, 2015, 00:22:38 am »
Dry sump pump?
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« Reply #346 on: November 06, 2015, 00:37:42 am »
Quote from: Eddie on November 06, 2015, 00:22:38 am
Dry sump pump?


Yes Smiley
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« Reply #347 on: November 06, 2015, 04:22:42 am »
Good progress today, need the head studs to arrive to go any further
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« Reply #348 on: November 06, 2015, 04:30:16 am »
Lifters in, covers on, pump on, cylinders needed a little clearance for case through bolt washers
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« Reply #349 on: November 06, 2015, 04:36:50 am »
Test fit cylinders, then clean and load pistons in and re check deck height
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« Reply #350 on: November 06, 2015, 05:00:51 am »
Do you mind sharing the stroke and rod length?
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« Reply #351 on: November 06, 2015, 05:46:50 am »
How big is that dish?
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« Reply #352 on: November 06, 2015, 05:51:04 am »
I had my old AS41 apart and getting jet-rinsed in prep for a good clean and scrub.
Your pics remind me of what mine must ONCE have looked like!  Cheesy

Pink goop on bearings, a particular brand of assembly lube over there, or just a thin smear of cam lube?
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« Reply #353 on: November 06, 2015, 06:02:27 am »
Quote from: modnrod on November 06, 2015, 05:51:04 am
I had my old AS41 apart and getting jet-rinsed in prep for a good clean and scrub.
Your pics remind me of what mine must ONCE have looked like!  Cheesy

Pink goop on bearings, a particular brand of assembly lube over there, or just a thin smear of cam lube?

Its Torco MPZ Smiley
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« Reply #354 on: November 07, 2015, 03:09:27 am »
Got these this afternoon, another piece of the puzzle Smiley
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« Reply #355 on: November 07, 2015, 08:36:47 am »
Have you ever used the Kramm lox before? I was going to get some.
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« Reply #356 on: November 07, 2015, 15:57:22 pm »
Quote from: Taylor on November 07, 2015, 08:36:47 am
Have you ever used the Kramm lox before? I was going to get some.

No, but look nicer than the regular lock they supply so thought I would try them, oh and dish is 10cc Smiley Had to look back to find my notes

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« Reply #357 on: November 07, 2015, 16:44:23 pm »
Hi dude,

What lengths do the Raceware studs come in?

I was looking at ARP ones.

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« Reply #358 on: November 07, 2015, 21:58:35 pm »
Quote from: UltraOrange67-2443 on November 07, 2015, 16:44:23 pm
Hi dude,

What lengths do the Raceware studs come in?

I was looking at ARP ones.

Cheers, Nick
Just write to Randy Hubbard at Raceware and he will do any length or combination for you.
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« Reply #359 on: November 08, 2015, 01:11:15 am »
Quote from: UltraOrange67-2443 on November 07, 2015, 16:44:23 pm
Hi dude,

What lengths do the Raceware studs come in?

I was looking at ARP ones.

Cheers, Nick


Hi Nick

as frallan wrote, anything you want, they do off the shelf VW sets or custom to your specs which is what I needed as the normal ones are to long for this, takes a few weeks but worth the wait Smiley

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