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andy198712
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Posts: 1063
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #60 on:
March 09, 2014, 11:06:33 am »
Hello ,
Just read the thread and its a great read, are your HP figures at the wheels?
Sorry to hear about your oil seal issues, I too have heard to fully seat the seal so have done that on a current build.
Did you have to wait long for the wings?
All the best
Andy
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Eddie DVK
Hero Member
Posts: 866
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #61 on:
March 09, 2014, 12:10:17 pm »
Quote from: andy198712 on March 09, 2014, 11:06:33 am
Hello ,
Just read the thread and its a great read, are your HP figures at the wheels?
Sorry to hear about your oil seal issues, I too have heard to fully seat the seal so have done that on a current build.
Did you have to wait long for the wings?
All the best
Andy
Hi Andy, no figure is at flywheel.. so not so impressive, but torque is ok.. but have some improvements in store.
Yup I will try the put the seal in fully seated.
I orded the wings through Richie on here.. I was not in a hurry, and they were at Richie for a few months before we picked them up... so..
Regards Edgar
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Regards Edgar
" Type 4, it is a completely different engine. You have to drive one to understand! "
andy198712
Hero Member
Posts: 1063
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #62 on:
March 09, 2014, 18:58:58 pm »
i used an old oil seal to sink mine in till it bottomed out which wasn't far.
i don't know, a lot of people talk about numbers but i bet it FEELS fast!! i would just not get caught up with numbers
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Eddie DVK
Hero Member
Posts: 866
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #63 on:
March 10, 2014, 08:39:52 am »
OK, I thought I will make this easy to refit, so drilled some 6mm holes before I drilled out all the spotwelds, so when I refit the valance it is still properly aligned as it was stock mounted.
Here you can see the holes.
And remounting the valance is now an easy job...you can see the M6 bolts in place
Regards Edgar
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Regards Edgar
" Type 4, it is a completely different engine. You have to drive one to understand! "
Eddie DVK
Hero Member
Posts: 866
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #64 on:
March 16, 2014, 09:48:58 am »
Ok found the cause of the leak, the small outer lip is ripped of the seal...
Old mechanic told me when they had this the seal was to far out.... comfirms then what Spanners, Joe and Andy are saying.
You can see the ripped pieces laying in the webbing of the case
Incl. pieces of the seal
A bit difficult to see..
Regards Edgar
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Regards Edgar
" Type 4, it is a completely different engine. You have to drive one to understand! "
Eddie DVK
Hero Member
Posts: 866
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #65 on:
December 02, 2014, 09:33:21 am »
Ok to make the forum alive again, here an update.
After the 3th flywheel seal leak, I went ahead and bought some extra flywheels.
Choose to go with a nos 200mm one, sent it away to have it lightend and balanced.
Put the new flywheel seal al the way in after some advise on here.
Hopes this will hold longer then 500km this time. Fingers crossed.
When it is out of the garage again, I use it as a daily driver in the summer.
Going to look if this cools like it is advertised.
Ok went further ahead with the removable rear valance, trimmed some stuf of the valance to make it easier to refit.
Repainted everything to make it look shiny again.
Made a plate to tighten the valance good between wings and body.
Also made some carb windows for more excess for carb tuning.
Made some brackets to the inner body to fit a engine hanger, because of the exhaust set up, nothing normal will fit so made my own,
see how this works out.
Fitting the engine is now a brease, the type 4 is a little to big to get in/out without removing almost everything from the engine.
And gathering some parts and playing around for my future engine build 4inch type 4 engine. those are the famous Deutz 100mm cilinders.
Only thing to do is weleding some holes in the front floor, those will follow later.
Regards Edgar
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Regards Edgar
" Type 4, it is a completely different engine. You have to drive one to understand! "
BeetleBug
Hero Member
Posts: 2836
Snabba grabben...
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #66 on:
December 02, 2014, 09:46:24 am »
Excellent update, thanks! I like your engine mounts a lot.
Best rgs
BB
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Eddie DVK
Hero Member
Posts: 866
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #67 on:
December 13, 2014, 10:40:46 am »
It is a bit shaby enginehanger (selfmade), but it works
Engine is almost coplete again
And some new parts for future.
With new 22mm bush installed and ARP2000 bolts
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Regards Edgar
" Type 4, it is a completely different engine. You have to drive one to understand! "
Jesse Wens
Full Member
Posts: 239
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #68 on:
December 13, 2014, 13:14:57 pm »
hey Eddie,
Can you tell a bit about the oilpump? looks like a realy nice piece
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thinking out of the box will get you to go faster cheaper in the long run, time is on my side
spanners
Sr. Member
Posts: 286
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #69 on:
December 13, 2014, 16:57:27 pm »
Quote from: Eddie on December 13, 2014, 10:40:46 am
It is a bit shaby enginehanger (selfmade), but it works
I don't think your engine hanger is shabby at all, it's an original and well thought out item, far better than a shop bought item anyone can buy.
Well done, We need more new ideas to stop everything looking like the same person built them all.
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Best regards, spanners.
Eddie DVK
Hero Member
Posts: 866
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #70 on:
December 13, 2014, 20:24:38 pm »
Quote from: Jesse Wens on December 13, 2014, 13:14:57 pm
hey Eddie,
Can you tell a bit about the oilpump? looks like a realy nice piece
There was a guy on e-bay.de that makes his own type 4 oilpumps with bigger gears. Just saw them on a other forum, and thought well lets try it.
It s a 30mm version, housing made out of allu.
Quote from: spanners on December 13, 2014, 16:57:27 pm
Quote from: Eddie on December 13, 2014, 10:40:46 am
It is a bit shaby enginehanger (selfmade), but it works
I don't think your engine hanger is shabby at all, it's an original and well thought out item, far better than a shop bought item anyone can buy.
Well done, We need more new ideas to stop everything looking like the same person built them all.
Thank you, but there wasn t one that cleared my header/oilfilter/oilfiller, so had to make one of my own.
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Regards Edgar
" Type 4, it is a completely different engine. You have to drive one to understand! "
richie
Hero Member
Posts: 5665
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #71 on:
December 16, 2014, 14:18:22 pm »
Nice, good to see you keep working on it
Like that you figured out your own engine hanger as well, looks like it will do the job
cheers Richie
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Eddie DVK
Hero Member
Posts: 866
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #72 on:
December 29, 2014, 10:32:57 am »
Ok made some progress.
The end result, this is why I neede to built one myself, it now cleares the header.
Also made my own engine bay cover out of sheet alu.. to keep the hot air out of the engine bay.
and one extra, because I like it
Ok now on to the front.. have to weld some small holes in the framehead..
Regards edgar
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Regards Edgar
" Type 4, it is a completely different engine. You have to drive one to understand! "
andy198712
Hero Member
Posts: 1063
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #73 on:
December 29, 2014, 17:09:11 pm »
Looks good!
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Eddie DVK
Hero Member
Posts: 866
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #74 on:
March 08, 2015, 11:03:58 am »
Ok small update.
After installing the engine and placing everything back, I had an new frontbeam that I wanted to place.
So removed the old beam and was checking the framehead a little, started cleaning the framehead and discovered some holes..
Those are typical due to the western Europe climate. but this wasn t planned.
So tried to weld it myself but due to the lack of a carlift... it is hard to weld, laying on the floor..
Well also I am just learning to weld... But after trying a few times decided to not do it myself.
A few of my vw buddies have good experience with
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Autolas-Restauratiebedrijf-HB-van-Kranen/113614605394018
and I do know him a little so made an appointment.
Good service and good result, I am very happy with the result. because I can now drive my beetle this summer.
So still need to place the new beam, but will do this in the coming months when time allows.
Regards Edgar
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Regards Edgar
" Type 4, it is a completely different engine. You have to drive one to understand! "
thehanz DVK
Hero Member
Posts: 652
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #75 on:
March 08, 2015, 16:15:18 pm »
Nice to see it up and running Eddie let's do Some meetings this year
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Eddie DVK
Hero Member
Posts: 866
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #76 on:
March 09, 2015, 08:07:57 am »
Quote from: thehanz on March 08, 2015, 16:15:18 pm
Nice to see it up and running Eddie let's do Some meetings this year
That is the plan Hans
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Regards Edgar
" Type 4, it is a completely different engine. You have to drive one to understand! "
brian e
Full Member
Posts: 141
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #77 on:
March 09, 2015, 16:41:31 pm »
I love the car, and I would like to see more on the Deutz cylinder swap!!!!
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Tom G.
Full Member
Posts: 139
Re: Engine build (typ 4)
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Reply #78 on:
March 30, 2015, 12:37:34 pm »
Quote from: Eddie on May 26, 2010, 09:48:23 am
Ok finaly got some work done.
The pushrods are finaly done.
They are in now and seem to work properly.
I am confused on what to set valvegap on these aluminuim pushrods, I saw and hear a lot of different figures...
some saying 0mm (zero) and some say 0.10mm.
Please could somebody point me into the right direction.
And another small question which sparkplugs do people use in typ 4 engines.
(had a answer from rasser what he is using in his typ 4 ''NGK B7 (canīt remember if it is ES or HS style...)'')
Thanks in advance
Kind regards Edgar
Are these Aircooled.net alu pushrods? Where can i get these better pushrods?
I know the other cheap alu HD pushrod stuff is waste of money...
Thanks
Bye
Tom
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Eddie DVK
Hero Member
Posts: 866
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #79 on:
March 30, 2015, 19:09:08 pm »
Yes they are the alu ones from aircoolednet.
Don t know if they still have them.
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Regards Edgar
" Type 4, it is a completely different engine. You have to drive one to understand! "
Eddie DVK
Hero Member
Posts: 866
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #80 on:
April 22, 2015, 13:48:16 pm »
Ok Small update.
I like to corner my car normally, so I like to brace my front suspension.
My old beam is getting a bit shabby, so found a replacement beam, a stronger version out of a Kubel/ 181 / trekker
it has a welded box over the shock towers and does have standard front end stiffeners.
Because the bottom plate off a 181 is a bit different, I have adjusted the front stiffeners a bit, welded a plate over them to lengthen them so they will fit to the A frame bolts now.
Have to dril some holes in them and then they are ready for paint and placement.
I will post some pictures of the complete set up when finished.
Time to get it on the road again.
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Regards Edgar
" Type 4, it is a completely different engine. You have to drive one to understand! "
stevenery
Newbie
Posts: 12
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #81 on:
April 24, 2015, 06:51:24 am »
Quote from: Eddie on December 13, 2014, 10:40:46 am
With new 22mm bush installed and ARP2000 bolts
Who was your supplier on these rods?
Cheers,
Steven
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Eddie DVK
Hero Member
Posts: 866
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #82 on:
April 24, 2015, 11:36:07 am »
Hello Steven,
They are from EMW (
http://www.europeanmotorworks.com/
).
The there are some e-bay shops that have them too.
Regards Edgar
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Regards Edgar
" Type 4, it is a completely different engine. You have to drive one to understand! "
Eddie DVK
Hero Member
Posts: 866
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #83 on:
May 14, 2015, 09:02:40 am »
Ok ready for Dutch MOT.
Is good for 2 years again.
New front axle is in with front stiffeners... a bit hard to see.
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Regards Edgar
" Type 4, it is a completely different engine. You have to drive one to understand! "
Eddie DVK
Hero Member
Posts: 866
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #84 on:
May 15, 2015, 10:35:59 am »
I can drive again, have new MOT.
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Regards Edgar
" Type 4, it is a completely different engine. You have to drive one to understand! "
thehanz DVK
Hero Member
Posts: 652
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #85 on:
May 15, 2015, 10:48:20 am »
Well done see you soon then ....
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Eddie DVK
Hero Member
Posts: 866
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #86 on:
October 01, 2015, 10:40:29 am »
Ok, remember this
I have to say I think it works, have done a lot of driving this summer, we had a 'hot' summer for the Netherlands a lot of days with 25 dgr Celsius temps.
In city driving the oil temps just stay at around 80 dgr celc. even on some really hot days..
Did a few long trips in warm temps with 3 hours plus of highway driving (120km/h with long gearbox) and the oil temp never exceeds 100 dgr celc.
So my guess it gives you a 5 - 10 dgr celc. reduction in oil temps. (ok the 10 is maybe a little to high but it is between 5 and 10 somewhere)
The fun part is I don t have any sound deafening in my car and you can really hear it sucking in air, which I didn t hear before
.
Regards Edgar
Just a reminder, I don t have a extra oil cooler just a type 4 cooler in the shroud
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Regards Edgar
" Type 4, it is a completely different engine. You have to drive one to understand! "
Eddie DVK
Hero Member
Posts: 866
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #87 on:
October 05, 2015, 10:50:28 am »
Ok,
I think one of the last nice days off the year to take it for a drive.
Now back in the garage, maybe for some winter updates
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Regards Edgar
" Type 4, it is a completely different engine. You have to drive one to understand! "
richie
Hero Member
Posts: 5665
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #88 on:
October 05, 2015, 14:49:09 pm »
Quote from: Eddie on October 05, 2015, 10:50:28 am
Ok,
I think one of the last nice days off the year to take it for a drive.
Now back in the garage, maybe for some winter updates
Looks really good Eddie
Winter upgrades? Type 1?
cheers Richie
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brian e
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Posts: 141
Re: Late Looker (typ 4)
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Reply #89 on:
October 05, 2015, 17:05:28 pm »
Quote from: Eddie on October 05, 2015, 10:50:28 am
Ok,
Now back in the garage, maybe for some winter updates
I am waiting to see the Deutz cylinders finished!!
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