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Nick
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Re: My 67 notch expands to 2.2 liter (+beefed up gearbox)
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Reply #90 on:
December 24, 2010, 00:01:55 am »
Okay, thanks !
I'll try this on my next engine !
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Jesse/DVK
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'64 2176cc
Re: My 67 notch expands to 2.2 liter (+beefed up gearbox)
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January 22, 2011, 19:05:10 pm »
Congrats on the very nice feature in Ultra VW Felix!
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achim
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Re: My 67 notch expands to 2.2 liter (+beefed up gearbox)
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Reply #92 on:
January 25, 2011, 23:08:27 pm »
Hi Felix
Question: I am still planing my 1776 Type3 motor! is there any reason why you used a 26mm Oil pump and not a 30mm ? is there maybe not enough place? I will use a schleicher 324°Cam and i think this cam will fit only with a 30mm oil pump after 71" ! Maybe you could give me some Advice? Should i rather use a Pauter Cam and the small Pump or do you think it will fit with a 30mm one?
thanks for your advice--- achim from switzerland---
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Felix/DFL
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Re: My 67 notch expands to 2.2 liter (+beefed up gearbox)
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Reply #93 on:
January 27, 2011, 21:29:47 pm »
Quote from: Jesse/DVK on January 22, 2011, 19:05:10 pm
Congrats on the very nice feature in Ultra VW Felix!
huh what, tell me more!
What I know is that there may be a feauture in Ultra to the end of the year (Pic`s by Stephan S.)
Quote from: achim on January 25, 2011, 23:08:27 pm
Hi Felix
Question: I am still planing my 1776 Type3 motor! is there any reason why you used a 26mm Oil pump and not a 30mm ? is there maybe not enough place? I will use a schleicher 324°Cam and i think this cam will fit only with a 30mm oil pump after 71" ! Maybe you could give me some Advice? Should i rather use a Pauter Cam and the small Pump or do you think it will fit with a 30mm one?
thanks for your advice--- achim from switzerland---
Hey Achim,
I selected the 26mm pump as it deliveres enought oil-flow in my point of view (bluprinted of course, and they ALL need to be blueprinted if not somebody before done that...) Why deliver more oil that is than blown away at the regulator, and that oil is created by using Watts...
Keep in mind that the axial play is the main factor for created oil flow. It`s even a goog idea to seal the pump to the case. Before closing the case install the pump and seal the inletport to the case / outlet if you are not going full flow which I wouldn`t recomend. Berg sealing for the poor man...
Disadvantage: If you ever pull the pump! There goes your sealing... Then make yourself a O-Ring grove on a lathe and seal via o-Ring.
The only benifit of a blueprinted 30mm is that you get a bit more oil flow (due to that oil pressure) at hot idle. But then you may have a problem with too much leakage, , bad oil cooler, to much delta pressure on the way pump to xxx to case, worn out bearings or other problems...
The 30mm Pump will fit with the typ-3 setup only if you modify the front housing. I needed to modify (made a hole which was seled after installing front housing) for my 1776 as I used a CB 26mm full flow pump with outlet/inlet. My 26mm needed only a bit shorter studs on the left half and a small radius at the housing. I am using the CSP full flow cover without panic valve.
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Some news about my 67:
Gearbox is out as it made some noises in thrust drive after DDD8. Maybe the bearing in the side plate has moved a bit/made room, due to that more play at the R&P = noise.
Other things to do: linelock, Porsche 944 main brake cylinder, black headliner, new and bigger glaspack or dual pack exhaust (still thinking) and some other small things.
I am missing the summer.Have fun!
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Harry/FDK
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Re: My 67 notch expands to 2.2 liter (+beefed up gearbox)
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Reply #94 on:
January 27, 2011, 23:32:24 pm »
Disadvantage: If you ever pull the pump! There goes your sealing... Then make yourself a O-Ring grove on a lathe and seal via o-Ring.
Felix, and then... I had issues with o-ringed pumps, the o-ring crumbles up after re-installing the pump in a torqued case. Your thoughts ?
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Jesse/DVK
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Re: My 67 notch expands to 2.2 liter (+beefed up gearbox)
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Reply #95 on:
January 27, 2011, 23:41:15 pm »
Quote from: Felix/DFL on January 27, 2011, 21:29:47 pm
Quote from: Jesse/DVK on January 22, 2011, 19:05:10 pm
Congrats on the very nice feature in Ultra VW Felix!
huh what, tell me more!
What I know is that there may be a feauture in Ultra to the end of the year (Pic`s by Stephan S.)
Check the February 2011 issue
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carlito421
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Re: My 67 notch expands to 2.2 liter (+beefed up gearbox)
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Reply #96 on:
January 29, 2011, 10:37:17 am »
Here in Bit Burg at DDD#2 2004
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Diederick/DVK
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Re: My 67 notch expands to 2.2 liter (+beefed up gearbox)
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Reply #97 on:
January 29, 2011, 12:07:16 pm »
amazing, that notch is still looking sharp and shiny 6 years later!!
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Felix/DFL
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Re: My 67 notch expands to 2.2 liter (+beefed up gearbox)
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Reply #98 on:
February 01, 2011, 22:45:15 pm »
Quote from: Harry/FDK on January 27, 2011, 23:32:24 pm
Disadvantage: If you ever pull the pump! There goes your sealing... Then make yourself a O-Ring grove on a lathe and seal via o-Ring.
Felix, and then... I had issues with o-ringed pumps, the o-ring crumbles up after re-installing the pump in a torqued case. Your thoughts ?
Hmmh, a berg pump or home grown? Often the o-rings are selected to big. Remember that the ring grows up under temp and oil influence.
Did you try loosing the case nuts at the pump location?
@Carlito: Nice pic I haven`t seen for some years. It is very presentable for the normal madnees. Car=shining / Owner=uncared due to all the time went into the car...
After DDD2 we had a nice holiday week in belgium and the went to the Spa meeting. Lot of fun.
As said car is now in hovercraft-mod. Waiting for the gearbox and other small & big things to come.
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Ole
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Re: My 67 notch expands to 2.2 liter (+beefed up gearbox)
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Reply #99 on:
February 03, 2011, 18:09:43 pm »
Quote from: Felix/DFL on February 01, 2011, 22:45:15 pm
As said car is now in hovercraft-mod. Waiting for the gearbox and other small & big things to come.
Hhmmm, where have I seen something like that before...
Ahh, I remember...
May the force be with you...
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Harry/FDK
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Re: My 67 notch expands to 2.2 liter (+beefed up gearbox)
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Reply #100 on:
February 03, 2011, 21:36:07 pm »
Hmmh, a berg pump or home grown? Often the o-rings are selected to big. Remember that the ring grows up under temp and oil influence.
Did you try loosing the case nuts at the pump location? Quote/Unquote.
Berg Pump, i even tried a super tight Viton ring, but it crumbles up as well. (of course with loosening the nuts/bolts around the pump area).
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The Action Is Go
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Re: My 67 notch expands to 2.2 liter (+beefed up gearbox)
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Reply #101 on:
February 05, 2011, 07:40:09 am »
Quote from: carlito421 on January 29, 2011, 10:37:17 am
Here in Bit Burg at DDD#2 2004
Any chance you have a pic of the white sedan with the gold Empi's behind the Notch?
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Tobi/DFL
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Re: My 67 notch expands to 2.2 liter (+beefed up gearbox)
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Reply #102 on:
February 05, 2011, 10:56:58 am »
Hi,
the pearlwhite car belongs to Olaf Ennen from DFL. On the pic it´s still running on reproduction five spokes but it´s now rolling on genuine EMPI fives. For more pics have at look at:
http://www.dflvwclub.de/cars.php?id=7&fileid=0
Tobi
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Felix/DFL
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Re: My 67 notch expands to 2.2 liter (+beefed up gearbox)
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Reply #103 on:
February 05, 2011, 13:57:45 pm »
Quote from: Tobi/DFL on February 05, 2011, 10:56:58 am
Hi,
the pearlwhite car belongs to Olaf Ennen from DFL. On the pic it´s still running on reproduction five spokes but it´s now rolling on genuine EMPI fives. For more pics have at look at:
http://www.dflvwclub.de/cars.php?id=7&fileid=0
Tobi
Here the direct link to the the specs:
http://www.dflvwclub.de/cars.php?lang=en&id=7
14,5 sec with 1776, stock gearbox, and non trailer car
That`s the idea of Cal look to me, loving that 65...
here in action 2006:
http://www.youtube.com/v/0OmYhK1BuGU
@Ole: He he, land-speed(st)er action.
@Harry: Hmmh that`s crude. Never heared of those probs. Waht did you did then? Istalled an non ringed pump and everything was ok?
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Harry/FDK
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Re: My 67 notch expands to 2.2 liter (+beefed up gearbox)
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Reply #104 on:
February 05, 2011, 17:18:02 pm »
Hey Felix, i went non-ringed. I just "prep" the case with a LITTLE permatex on the inside of the pump bore in the case, slide in the pump, the Permatex rolls up a little, torque it up and wait for 24 hours. Never had any problems doing this on several engines. Works for me.
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Harry/FDK
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Re: My 67 notch expands to 2.2 liter (+beefed up gearbox)
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Reply #105 on:
February 23, 2011, 23:37:48 pm »
Did you loose the oil-control plunger at the pulley side ?
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pupjoint
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Re: My 67 notch expands to 2.2 liter (+beefed up gearbox)
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Reply #106 on:
April 23, 2012, 16:37:51 pm »
hi Felix, any updates on this build?
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Felix/DFL
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Re: My 67 notch expands to 2.2 liter (+beefed up gearbox)
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Reply #107 on:
May 05, 2012, 21:36:16 pm »
Hey pupjoint,
yeah man soooooo long no posting. Things have been a bit busy in the past time and I had not that much time für the www...
That has happened:
First I had to fix the family 65 T1 ambulance to get some good money for it. The reason? Later...
It had a big dent in the front and some play in the front steering. That and some other small things ate up time.
It sold really quick for some nice money.
So back to the 67.
As I had the gearbox out I thought hey let`s do some other things that always anoyed me over the last now 10 years of past restauration.
So off with the shell
There were some small things that didn`t affect the quality or look, but I knew that those things were there so I wanted to fix it. In betwen of the process I of course thoght what idiot are you thet you disassemble a good runner for penuts. But that`s the way things go...
So shell of the pan and everything look good. I fixed the peanut things and conserved everything. New rubber and down it goes. Man I wish all that happened in the time I am now writing this words...
Another point I always didn`t like was the white headliner with the white pillar coverings. That always stood out of the black/chrome/red thing. But in no good way in my view. So out with the orig. headliner and a complete black in. The installing wasn`t that comfortable as with the orig. but with some patience, heat and sometimes ugly words it now sits nice. Just have to do the sunvisiors. Some time...
Another route I went 10-11 years before was to make many parts in the interieur in silver to match the early instruments. That silver even didn`t match in my view. Soooo paint it balck ! (or powder) The instruments are converted to late blck one`s with a trip speedo. The pedals are now drilled for look and weight and
pink
noooo black powedered! The steering colum is black gloss painted and the monster tachometer was replaced with a more decent Autometer street-tach. The 52mm VDO instruments got reworked an moved under the glove box with a cyl. head instrument. I will ad a pic later on.
A Hurst line lock is now even installed but didn`t use it till yet. But DDD10 will come
So since the 28th may it runs strong again. 30th we had our annual DFL may cruise madness in Hannover.
I even switched the F7 emulsion tubes at the IDA`s against F2 (without changing anything else) and it made a hugh difference to the good side. Read these suggestion some times here in the lounge and it was such a good advice!
The main reason for the pressed free time and the bus selling was definetly the bought of our own house. That old lady needed
some
love before we could settle over from our renting apartment. The house retoration is on a good way, but belive me it will never be "done"
One of he best thing is the garage. A mian buying argument... Working at the cars at our own home was always a long time dream that now will become true.
Best greetings everyone!
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volkskris
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Re: My 67 notch expands to 2.2 liter (+beefed up gearbox)
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Reply #108 on:
May 05, 2012, 23:31:06 pm »
the interior changes sound good!
how's the engine and gearbox holding up?
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Wunder Wim
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Re: My 67 notch expands to 2.2 liter (+beefed up gearbox)
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Reply #109 on:
May 06, 2012, 09:02:26 am »
Hi Felix,
looks like you made some nice changes and good progress.
The house looks very nice, hope you have a spare room to accommodate some friends when they are in town.
Greetz
wim
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pupjoint
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Re: My 67 notch expands to 2.2 liter (+beefed up gearbox)
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Reply #110 on:
August 24, 2013, 16:29:28 pm »
bump again
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Felix/DFL
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Re: My 67 notch expands to 2.2 liter (+beefed up gearbox)
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July 11, 2025, 20:30:55 pm »
Upps, so it really happend that the last update is 13 years ago?!
Man! Time run‘s… So maybe time for a small update.
The notch got driven a lot and attended at many meetings over the time.
HAPPINESS is still a hot VW! And the LOOK is still strong
The drag days are sadly long gone, so many folks got more into the better streetable direction me included. As I never was a trailer boy it was the best move for me to enjoy the notch even more, and it‘s still a fast one.
The super cool cal-look caravan which I attended last year was definetly a big cherry on the cake. What a great turnout with like minded folks and super cool lookers road trippin together!
So the ingredients for better miles/ evolution progress:
- Long R&P box 3,88 with rancho case (oem case split at bitburg…) and quaife LSD
- Decam from fk-10 to webcam 86b
- 123 programmable dizzy with map sensor
- quieter Acoustic inside
- Better brakes / vented at the front with late NOS typ-3 spindels (71 only with wider caliper bolt distance) coupled with BMW 2002tii calipers
Other mod‘s:
- VDM steering wheel / was originaly a BMW Tii wheel which was now adapted to a VW hub / brillant work from my clubmate Karsten
- Tire‘s! at the back now the sky high 205/70 AVON CR6 ZZ / front at the start even those CR6 -ZZ in 175/70 but those were to high from profile even with a raised front so after EBI? I changed those to lower Avon 175/65
- many small things
Will upload dome pic‘s as they speak better than my english
Ah and there are even pic‘s in motion. Bill T did a little DFL vid at the caravan, my notch at the back of the vid:
https://youtu.be/HeJ8k8uiK2U?si=XBiMdNlLZ9dqaI9h
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Felix/DFL
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Pic‘s
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Felix/DFL
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July 11, 2025, 21:30:27 pm »
1.it‘s a sleeper now, sorry Tobi
2. getting older but the beer was up front…
3. Sven doing sven things
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Felix/DFL
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Re: My 67 notch expands to 2.2 liter (+beefed up gearbox)
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Reply #114 on:
July 11, 2025, 21:44:03 pm »
More stupid things…
Still struggling with the air cleaners from time to time…
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Eddie DVK
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Re: My 67 notch expands to 2.2 liter (+beefed up gearbox)
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Cool update.
Good to hear you enjoy driving it.
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