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« Reply #1020 on: September 29, 2024, 12:13:32 pm »

After sitting under a cover un loved for too long I got time and motivation to work on it again, one thing i didn't like was the multi coloured " black & white taxi" look with mixed white and carbon so decided to paint some of it so it was all white again, more of that later Wink

Whilst i had it apart to do some prep and paint on the carbon panels I could see some places that i figured could be improved on weight wise so the weight loss program continued  Grin
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« Reply #1021 on: September 29, 2024, 20:14:42 pm »

Is this to compensate the weight of filler and paint you just added?  Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #1022 on: September 29, 2024, 21:35:17 pm »

Is this to compensate the weight of filler and paint you just added?  Cheesy Cheesy


No filler at all, but yes the paint must be really heavy Grin
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« Reply #1023 on: September 30, 2024, 22:20:35 pm »

I love seeing the updates on this! Keep them coming! Ready for the meat and potatoes whenever you get the time to share. Obviously its been at the beginning of a racetrack, did it make it to the end?
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« Reply #1024 on: October 01, 2024, 07:58:35 am »

I love seeing the updates on this! Keep them coming! Ready for the meat and potatoes whenever you get the time to share. Obviously its been at the beginning of a racetrack, did it make it to the end?

Thanks mate Smiley  yes went 10.60@128 if i remember correctly
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« Reply #1025 on: October 05, 2024, 14:33:28 pm »

So I did the minimal prep needed on the carbon panels and painted them all, this now provided me with another dilema  Shocked
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« Reply #1026 on: October 07, 2024, 20:49:36 pm »

I just saw some current photos of the car! That thing looks great! Love the new shoes!
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« Reply #1027 on: October 07, 2024, 20:56:07 pm »

I just couldn't bring myself to drill the doors and bonnet for chrome trim so only one choice, de chrome the rest of the car Cheesy
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« Reply #1028 on: October 07, 2024, 21:00:06 pm »

I just saw some current photos of the car! That thing looks great! Love the new shoes!


 Shocked Guess i need to update this quicker Cheesy 

Thanks for the kind words though, never been one to worry what others think but still good when other people like it to Grin


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« Reply #1029 on: October 08, 2024, 19:51:27 pm »

I just saw some current photos of the car! That thing looks great! Love the new shoes!


 Shocked Guess i need to update this quicker Cheesy 

Thanks for the kind words though, never been one to worry what others think but still good when other people like it to Grin


cheers Richie

She is hard as a nail  Cool

I also like how the rear spoiler look, do you feel it is useful?

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« Reply #1030 on: October 09, 2024, 08:20:59 am »


She is hard as a nail  Cool

I also like how the rear spoiler look, do you feel it is useful?



Thanks mate  Smiley  Yes i think so, need a bunch of testing to be sure, I have shock sensors fitted so will see how much downforce it has and then lift without it fitted, been testing one on my 1303 on the road and it feels more stable but that's only seat of pants and not 100% reliable  Grin Cheesy
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« Reply #1031 on: October 09, 2024, 09:59:07 am »

I bought the wheels a while ago as 2 different pairs so decided to make them match a little better  Smiley
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« Reply #1032 on: October 09, 2024, 16:28:26 pm »

Really like the wheels - bet they weigh a bit more than the burners though?
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« Reply #1033 on: October 10, 2024, 09:06:39 am »

Really like the wheels - bet they weigh a bit more than the burners though?

Thanks Smiley

Yes they are but needed something wider on back for a decent rear tyre as a 6inch slick is about it on a 5.5 wide wheel, and at front a narrower wheel fits the front tyre better as well, mainly same reason Old cab has fuch on it these days Smiley

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« Reply #1034 on: October 11, 2024, 20:12:48 pm »

I saw the pics put up on the socials, looks really really good. I'm currently looking at a set of your carbon running boards, to keep the theme going, but that might be pushing things too far on a traditional cal looker.  Cheesy Plus i've got the small matter of engine  Grin

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« Reply #1035 on: October 12, 2024, 08:04:01 am »

I saw the pics put up on the socials, looks really really good. I'm currently looking at a set of your carbon running boards, to keep the theme going, but that might be pushing things too far on a traditional cal looker.  Cheesy Plus i've got the small matter of engine  Grin



Thanks Smiley

I made a couple pairs with a dark tint now and they become much more subtle on the car Wink

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« Reply #1036 on: October 14, 2024, 18:36:25 pm »

no trim and golden wheels. yes! yes! yes!
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« Reply #1037 on: October 14, 2024, 19:13:03 pm »

Is there oil cooler behind the air dam underneath?
A kind of Cagero style oil cooler on stéroid?
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« Reply #1038 on: October 14, 2024, 19:54:30 pm »

Is there oil cooler behind the air dam underneath?
A kind of Cagero style oil cooler on stéroid?
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Yes that was the rough simple test "prototype" version, when i was happy with it I made a better version and then a mold of it so i can reproduce it easily if there is interest Wink 
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« Reply #1039 on: October 14, 2024, 21:29:24 pm »

Is there oil cooler behind the air dam underneath?
A kind of Cagero style oil cooler on stéroid?
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Yes that was the rough simple test "prototype" version, when i was happy with it I made a better version and then a mold of it so i can reproduce it easily if there is interest Wink 

Good stuff. Must be useful on really fast street car  Wink
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« Reply #1040 on: October 15, 2024, 18:06:42 pm »




Good stuff. Must be useful on really fast street car  Wink

Anything with T1 911 fan/alternator set up needs an external cooler and finding a decent place is always a challenge, more so with lots of pipes tucked away under there  Grin

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« Reply #1041 on: December 22, 2024, 14:27:35 pm »

Not being convinced the upright 911 fan conversion would give the even cylinder cooling i wanted i decided to try create my own!!! I prefer the look of the horizontal fan conversions and they give more room and access in engine bay so that's what I decided to create Shocked Grin
I didn't take many pics so there are gaps in the process but this gives you an idea of what is involved!! I started with a roughed out cardboard shape, made a fiberglass mould/shape from that and then lots of measuring and shaping later I had a decent plug i could take a mould off to make a actual part  Shocked Due to the shape it needed to be a split mould to allow the final part to release
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« Reply #1042 on: December 22, 2024, 15:06:30 pm »

the mould flanges were then drilled so it all bolts back together in same place, mould split and cleaned up then waxed ready to make a part from Smiley

1st part was made from fiberglass so if its not right or i mess up fitting and trimming it to fit engine its not an expensive mistake Shocked Grin
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« Reply #1043 on: December 22, 2024, 20:56:36 pm »

Jeez that's some undertaking, looks like something that would have been used to create ground effect in the 80s f1 cars.  Grin.

On the other end of the difficulty scale. i don't suppose you've made a wiring cover in carbon yet?
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« Reply #1044 on: December 22, 2024, 23:10:06 pm »



On the other end of the difficulty scale. i don't suppose you've made a wiring cover in carbon yet?

I have looked into it but not found anything yet good enough to use as a starting point
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« Reply #1045 on: December 23, 2024, 20:21:33 pm »

A DTM from Jack Raby is not enough for your purpose?
He did some extensive testing on the VW cooling.
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« Reply #1046 on: December 24, 2024, 10:30:58 am »



On the other end of the difficulty scale. i don't suppose you've made a wiring cover in carbon yet?

I have looked into it but not found anything yet good enough to use as a starting point

i've a Wolfsberg West one in the 67, maybe that could be used as a starting point.
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« Reply #1047 on: December 24, 2024, 19:17:39 pm »

A DTM from Jack Raby is not enough for your purpose?
He did some extensive testing on the VW cooling.

No, for several reasons,
one: all the testing i have read about[no idea how accurate it is]  shows it cools evenly over all cylinders but as it uses a regular fan its still limited on how much air it moves at any given rpm, i have a tall 4th gear so fan speed is quite slow, using a 911 fan which moves double the air a wide type 1 fan does at an given rpm should make a huge difference Smiley
two: the dtm set up takes even more room in engine bay than type 1 does so harder to fit everything in, and worse work on it as well  Shocked
three: there may have been some bias in the testing done to prove dtm is best  Wink
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« Reply #1048 on: December 24, 2024, 19:18:46 pm »



On the other end of the difficulty scale. i don't suppose you've made a wiring cover in carbon yet?

I have looked into it but not found anything yet good enough to use as a starting point

i've a Wolfsberg West one in the 67, maybe that could be used as a starting point.

When you get a chance email me some pics of it then please Smiley

thanks
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« Reply #1049 on: December 25, 2024, 09:35:26 am »


three: there may have been some bias in the testing done to prove dtm is best  Wink
Surely not... Grin
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