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Jim Ratto
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1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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December 07, 2007, 21:54:47 pm »
Post your best idea of 1980's killer street and strip 1776 guys....
no fair using MSD and CNC heads...etc.
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Last Edit: December 07, 2007, 22:11:21 pm by Jim Ratto
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louisb
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Posts: 3274
Runs with Scissors
Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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December 07, 2007, 22:28:36 pm »
110 cam
44 webers
Mofoco heads
bergman shortblock
009
Empi 4 tip exhaust
chrome engine tin
--louis
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Jim Ratto
Hero Member
Posts: 7121
Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #2 on:
December 07, 2007, 22:41:34 pm »
Quote from: louisb on December 07, 2007, 22:28:36 pm
110 cam
44 webers
Mofoco heads
bergman shortblock
009
Empi 4 tip exhaust
chrome engine tin
--louis
......sigh....
I was thinking of something like
Dumper's
motor....
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Jim Ratto
Hero Member
Posts: 7121
Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #3 on:
December 07, 2007, 23:20:49 pm »
I guess I will get ball rolling:
90.5 Cima's
VW dealer fuel inj "filled" case
Polished stock 311B rods
Tony Mance/Rimco 69mm wedgmated/12lb VW flywheel
Engle K8 or even FK-10
11.5:1
FF 42 x 37 welded VW heads with vasco-jets, ti retainers, small oval ports or Pauter heads, 'B' welded 42 x 37's, done by Mary
48IDAs on real McCoy Skat Traks, Tayco Pro-comp x-bar
Vertex locked mag
1-5/8 Four Tuned header with dual quiets with BLACK tailpipes
engine shrouding match painted to car color, except chrome pulley, backing plate behind alternator, aluminum firewall
VDO gauge senders, case painted VHT black
Santana power pulley
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Last Edit: December 07, 2007, 23:22:21 pm by Jim Ratto
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speedwell
Hero Member
Posts: 14715
the archivist
Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #4 on:
December 07, 2007, 23:23:56 pm »
Quote from: Jim Ratto on December 07, 2007, 23:20:49 pm
I guess I will get ball rolling:
90.5 Cima's
VW dealer fuel inj "filled" case
Polished stock 311B rods
Tony Mance/Rimco 69mm wedgmated/12lb VW flywheel
Engle K8 or even FK-10
11.5:1
FF 42 x 37 welded VW heads with vasco-jets, ti retainers, small oval ports or Pauter heads, 'B' welded 42 x 37's, done by Mary
48IDAs on real McCoy Skat Traks, Tayco Pro-comp x-bar
Vertex locked mag
1-5/8 Four Tuned header with dual quiets with BLACK tailpipes
engine shrouding match painted to car color, except chrome pulley, backing plate behind alternator, aluminum firewall
VDO gauge senders, case painted VHT black
Santana power pulley
how many HP ??
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Frank LUX
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Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #5 on:
December 07, 2007, 23:25:32 pm »
Hi Fab,
I personally that this motor should give 180HP...
Frank
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1960 Ragtop, 2332cc, 48 IDA's, Joe Hunt Magneto, someday it will be back...
1953 Split Window, 1799cc, 48 IDA's, Don Zig Magneto, OG BRM's...in da works...
SumFun Racecar, 2332cc, 48 IDA's, Magneto
Jim Ratto
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Posts: 7121
Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #6 on:
December 07, 2007, 23:31:37 pm »
Quote from: speedwell on December 07, 2007, 23:23:56 pm
Quote from: Jim Ratto on December 07, 2007, 23:20:49 pm
I guess I will get ball rolling:
90.5 Cima's
VW dealer fuel inj "filled" case
Polished stock 311B rods
Tony Mance/Rimco 69mm wedgmated/12lb VW flywheel
Engle K8 or even FK-10
11.5:1
FF 42 x 37 welded VW heads with vasco-jets, ti retainers, small oval ports or Pauter heads, 'B' welded 42 x 37's, done by Mary
48IDAs on real McCoy Skat Traks, Tayco Pro-comp x-bar
Vertex locked mag
1-5/8 Four Tuned header with dual quiets with BLACK tailpipes
engine shrouding match painted to car color, except chrome pulley, backing plate behind alternator, aluminum firewall
VDO gauge senders, case painted VHT black
Santana power pulley
how many HP ??
38
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Frank LUX
Hero Member
Posts: 1886
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Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #7 on:
December 07, 2007, 23:32:40 pm »
Hey Guys,
This is what the Old Motor in Nico's Muppet Racer was...
VW Case
Welded counterweigted Crank, VW 69mm
Mahle 90.5 P/C's with Total Seal 2nd Rings
Engle FK-10 Cam
Straight Cuts Steel/Steel
Scat Lifters
Scat 1.25 Rocker...Measured out to be 1.35
Weber 48IDA's
Skat Trak Manifolds
Joe Hunt Magneto
Santana Pulley
12.5 Flywheel
HEADS done by Steve's VW Shop (Mr. LGK on the Lounge)
40x35.5 Manley S/S Valves
Dual Berg Springs
9.5 CR!!!!
Motor pushed out 165 HP!!!
Far from Max HP potential, but too low a CR at that Moment...
Frank
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Last Edit: December 07, 2007, 23:42:10 pm by Frank LUX
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1960 Ragtop, 2332cc, 48 IDA's, Joe Hunt Magneto, someday it will be back...
1953 Split Window, 1799cc, 48 IDA's, Don Zig Magneto, OG BRM's...in da works...
SumFun Racecar, 2332cc, 48 IDA's, Magneto
Frank LUX
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Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #8 on:
December 07, 2007, 23:36:03 pm »
Quote from: Jim Ratto on December 07, 2007, 23:31:37 pm
Quote from: speedwell on December 07, 2007, 23:23:56 pm
Quote from: Jim Ratto on December 07, 2007, 23:20:49 pm
I guess I will get ball rolling:
90.5 Cima's
VW dealer fuel inj "filled" case
Polished stock 311B rods
Tony Mance/Rimco 69mm wedgmated/12lb VW flywheel
Engle K8 or even FK-10
11.5:1
FF 42 x 37 welded VW heads with vasco-jets, ti retainers, small oval ports or Pauter heads, 'B' welded 42 x 37's, done by Mary
48IDAs on real McCoy Skat Traks, Tayco Pro-comp x-bar
Vertex locked mag
1-5/8 Four Tuned header with dual quiets with BLACK tailpipes
engine shrouding match painted to car color, except chrome pulley, backing plate behind alternator, aluminum firewall
VDO gauge senders, case painted VHT black
Santana power pulley
how many HP ??
38
Frank
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1960 Ragtop, 2332cc, 48 IDA's, Joe Hunt Magneto, someday it will be back...
1953 Split Window, 1799cc, 48 IDA's, Don Zig Magneto, OG BRM's...in da works...
SumFun Racecar, 2332cc, 48 IDA's, Magneto
Jim Ratto
Hero Member
Posts: 7121
Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #9 on:
December 07, 2007, 23:41:58 pm »
just having fun buddy...
(just wait until PUI time later with mega beer)
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Frank LUX
Hero Member
Posts: 1886
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Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #10 on:
December 07, 2007, 23:46:35 pm »
Quote from: Jim Ratto on December 07, 2007, 23:41:58 pm
just having fun buddy...
(just wait until PUI time later with mega beer)
Me No Compredee, Maybe Too Much of This Shit...
Oooops, sorry Wrong Tread...
Frank
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1960 Ragtop, 2332cc, 48 IDA's, Joe Hunt Magneto, someday it will be back...
1953 Split Window, 1799cc, 48 IDA's, Don Zig Magneto, OG BRM's...in da works...
SumFun Racecar, 2332cc, 48 IDA's, Magneto
Jim Ratto
Hero Member
Posts: 7121
Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #11 on:
December 07, 2007, 23:49:25 pm »
now I am thirsty Frank!!
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Frank LUX
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Posts: 1886
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Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #12 on:
December 07, 2007, 23:52:11 pm »
Quote from: Jim Ratto on December 07, 2007, 23:49:25 pm
now I am thirsty Frank!!
BTW,
All those Jack Lovers would kill me if they Knew....
Only Single Barrels Jack on Diet Pepsi for Me....
Frank
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1960 Ragtop, 2332cc, 48 IDA's, Joe Hunt Magneto, someday it will be back...
1953 Split Window, 1799cc, 48 IDA's, Don Zig Magneto, OG BRM's...in da works...
SumFun Racecar, 2332cc, 48 IDA's, Magneto
louisb
Hero Member
Posts: 3274
Runs with Scissors
Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #13 on:
December 08, 2007, 00:02:54 am »
Quote from: Jim Ratto on December 07, 2007, 23:20:49 pm
I guess I will get ball rolling:
90.5 Cima's
VW dealer fuel inj "filled" case
Polished stock 311B rods
Tony Mance/Rimco 69mm wedgmated/12lb VW flywheel
Engle K8 or even FK-10
11.5:1
FF 42 x 37 welded VW heads with vasco-jets, ti retainers, small oval ports or Pauter heads, 'B' welded 42 x 37's, done by Mary
48IDAs on real McCoy Skat Traks, Tayco Pro-comp x-bar
Vertex locked mag
1-5/8 Four Tuned header with dual quiets with BLACK tailpipes
engine shrouding match painted to car color, except chrome pulley, backing plate behind alternator, aluminum firewall
VDO gauge senders, case painted VHT black
Santana power pulley
40 x 35.5 heads by FF. Bump the comp up another notch too.
W 130 cam
--louis
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cameron shorey
Jr. Member
Posts: 85
Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #14 on:
December 08, 2007, 00:18:55 am »
One of the nastiest 1776cc motors I have ever had the pleasure of meeting, was built by Doug Berg, for as a sprint car class motor. K10 cam, Berg rockers, huge heads, 48IDAs, very large sump. I don't know what the horsepower was. But Doug took me for a test ride, on the street, while the motor was in the S Muffin. We "cruised" around for quite a while. And to say the least... I was amazed. Very high revving, and built to stay at high revs for a long time.
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Zach Gomulka
Hero Member
Posts: 6991
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Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #15 on:
December 08, 2007, 01:02:35 am »
Quote from: Frank LUX on December 07, 2007, 23:52:11 pm
BTW,
All those Jack Lovers would kill me if they Knew....
Only Single Barrels Jack on Diet Pepsi for Me....
Frank
You cant ruin Single Barrell with Coke!! Especially diet!!! Single Barrell only gets a splash of water!!!!!!!!!
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Frank LUX
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Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #16 on:
December 08, 2007, 01:07:23 am »
Quote from: Zach Gomulka on December 08, 2007, 01:02:35 am
Quote from: Frank LUX on December 07, 2007, 23:52:11 pm
BTW,
All those Jack Lovers would kill me if they Knew....
Only Single Barrels Jack on Diet Pepsi for Me....
Frank
You cant ruin Single Barrell with Coke!! Especially diet!!! Single Barrell only gets a splash of water!!!!!!!!!
Well,
I just did It again...
Sorry,
Frank
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1960 Ragtop, 2332cc, 48 IDA's, Joe Hunt Magneto, someday it will be back...
1953 Split Window, 1799cc, 48 IDA's, Don Zig Magneto, OG BRM's...in da works...
SumFun Racecar, 2332cc, 48 IDA's, Magneto
lawrence
Hero Member
Posts: 732
Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #17 on:
December 08, 2007, 03:23:31 am »
Quote from: Zach Gomulka on December 08, 2007, 01:02:35 am
Quote from: Frank LUX on December 07, 2007, 23:52:11 pm
BTW,
All those Jack Lovers would kill me if they Knew....
Only Single Barrels Jack on Diet Pepsi for Me....
Frank
You cant ruin Single Barrell with Coke!! Especially diet!!! Single Barrell only gets a splash of water!!!!!!!!!
Now yer talkin' Zach! Hey Frank what is with the straw
Friday nights probably have the highest percentage of PUIs
I should crunch some numbers and...naw F it time for a beer.
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Soda
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Posts: 9
Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #18 on:
December 09, 2007, 19:36:03 pm »
Hey Jim do you still have your old web cam 86c. If you do I would like to buy. I also need to find a good set of 48 idas if you know anybody that has some or maybe the new ida. I still have a World Pac account. I think its time to freshen up the old motor. Im thinking new set of scat rods different cam and as much compression as I can get out of that motor.
Bryan
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stealth67vw
Hero Member
Posts: 2261
Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #19 on:
December 09, 2007, 22:35:30 pm »
You know how this one ran Jim
1776
90.5 Cimas
69 mm DMS crank
Rimco 13 lb flywheel
Berg 6.5 lb power pulley
Engle W125 w/Magnum gears
Tayco racing lifters
VW 1.25 rockers/ Berg Solid shafts
9.3:1 CR
welded & ported 40 x 35.5 heads, dual springs, ti retainers
Berg/Stinger S4 ignition
1 5/8 w/ dual qps
48 IDAs w/37 vents 135 mains
Scat Trak tall manifolds & Berg linkage
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Last Edit: December 10, 2007, 03:56:42 am by stealth67vw
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John Bates
JB Machining Services
1967 street bug 2020lbs w/driver
12.34 @ 108 mph 1/4
7.76 @ 89mph 1/8
stealth67vw
Hero Member
Posts: 2261
Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #20 on:
December 09, 2007, 22:37:13 pm »
Quote from: Soda on December 09, 2007, 19:36:03 pm
Hey Jim do you still have your old web cam 86c. If you do I would like to buy. I also need to find a good set of 48 idas if you know anybody that has some or maybe the new ida. I still have a World Pac account. I think its time to freshen up the old motor. Im thinking new set of scat rods different cam and as much compression as I can get out of that motor.
Bryan
I have an 86B new in box for ya Bryan. Cheap for you
PM me.
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John Bates
JB Machining Services
1967 street bug 2020lbs w/driver
12.34 @ 108 mph 1/4
7.76 @ 89mph 1/8
Jim Ratto
Hero Member
Posts: 7121
Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #21 on:
December 09, 2007, 23:28:44 pm »
Quote from: Soda on December 09, 2007, 19:36:03 pm
Hey Jim do you still have your old web cam 86c. If you do I would like to buy. I also need to find a good set of 48 idas if you know anybody that has some or maybe the new ida. I still have a World Pac account. I think its time to freshen up the old motor. Im thinking new set of scat rods different cam and as much compression as I can get out of that motor.
Bryan
Hi Bryan, nope Darrel has my old hard weld 86C...
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Jim Ratto
Hero Member
Posts: 7121
Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #22 on:
December 10, 2007, 20:34:16 pm »
Derek's short-lived 1776 ran very hard, where your 044's ended up John.
Talk about a budget motor too...
your welded 40 x 35 heads, Engle K8 advanced 4 deg, .020/.020 cwt crank, 12lbflywheel, 9.8:1, 48IDAs with 36mm vents. Thing was an animal until the cheap straight cut Bugpack gear came loose on crank.
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kafercup
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Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #23 on:
December 12, 2007, 01:46:00 am »
Yeah, that motor was kind of fun until the cam gear nightmare.
The original BH special 1776 in the car with the Engle 100 and 48 IDA's really put up well with tens of thousands of miles while being abused
And it actually ran nicely with that combo
Next motor will be much more fun
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Jim Ratto
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Posts: 7121
Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #24 on:
December 12, 2007, 01:47:35 am »
Quote from: kafercup on December 12, 2007, 01:46:00 am
Yeah, that motor was kind of fun until the cam gear nightmare.
Next motor will be much more fun
ya think?
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kafercup
Sr. Member
Posts: 309
Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #25 on:
December 12, 2007, 01:49:58 am »
Quote from: Jim Ratto on December 12, 2007, 01:47:35 am
Quote from: kafercup on December 12, 2007, 01:46:00 am
Yeah, that motor was kind of fun until the cam gear nightmare.
Next motor will be much more fun
ya think?
Yes I do James, yes I do.
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Jim Ratto
Hero Member
Posts: 7121
Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #26 on:
December 12, 2007, 01:52:51 am »
umm...?
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kafercup
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Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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December 12, 2007, 01:57:16 am »
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Jim Ratto
Hero Member
Posts: 7121
Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #28 on:
December 12, 2007, 01:59:23 am »
ha hahaha
that's gonna be your neighbors once this thing comes to life.
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kafercup
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Posts: 309
Re: 1776 Weapon...Go Go Go!
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Reply #29 on:
December 12, 2007, 02:09:40 am »
I'll just anonymously deliver boxes of these to their mailboxes and hope they get the clue
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