Different ideas for performance street mufflers (big cc stuff)

[Jim Ratto]

Has "it all been done?"

the high perf exhaust system for the street VW has grown up over the last 40+ years, hasn't it. Have the pipes been bent and looped and twisted every which way they can be? Glass-packs, stingers, straight-thru's turbo mufflers....anything left out there? Exit to right side, left side, hidden under car, what's left?

Just curious and thought this might stir up some imagination. .

 

[louisb]

Zoomies?  Have two exit on each side right in front of the rear tire.

I am still under the opinion that QPs and especially dual QPs are the nicest looking and sounding exhaust fitted to a VW. I wonder if you can get a set of Dual QPs to flow as well as a single turbo muff.

--louis

[Jim Ratto]

Zoomies?  Have two exit on each side right in front of the rear tire.

I am still under the opinion that QPs and especially dual QPs are the nicest looking and sounding exhaust fitted to a VW. I wonder if you can get a set of Dual QPs to flow as well as a single turbo muff.

--louis

if one was to use a more modern and gas-flow friendly muffler it might be.

[louisb]

Zoomies?  Have two exit on each side right in front of the rear tire.

I am still under the opinion that QPs and especially dual QPs are the nicest looking and sounding exhaust fitted to a VW. I wonder if you can get a set of Dual QPs to flow as well as a single turbo muff.

--louis

if one was to use a more modern and gas-flow friendly muffler it might be.

Yeah that is what I thought. I am going to get in touch with Tiger at A1 and see if he can whip up a set for the 2276 when I get to that point.

--louis

[Zach Gomulka]

Ive got an idea that I stole from the guy who owns the VW/Porsche shop a couple doors down... it involves this

[Mike Maize]

I do not think it has "all" been done. Most people are trapped by the same old ideas. I gotta tell you I am definetly a QP hater. All weinerish and small.....yuck! The V8 muffler trend was the best thing to date. I say "lets not bring back QP's"(especially duals, because they are heavier and twice as weinerish) I barely lived through them the first time

[Neil Davies]

I remember seeing a Ghia in a picture that had the exhaust coming out of one of the torsion bar cover holes in the wing - that looked a bit mad, but very cool. The dual Quiet Pack is my favourite - the bread bin turbo mufflers look unbalanced to me. I know what Mike Maize is talking about though - single quiet packs are just too small!

[Jim Ratto]

Personally I like sound and look of a clean set of quiet packs on a cammy motor with big carbs. True though, they don't have the most aggressive look.

I think a no-nonsense, no flash system is best. I like Glenn Gaskey's tailpipe treatment.

I think, if it were possible, a sidewinder type, like Glenn's and have a plain 2-1/2" tailpipe exit, like Glenn's, would be cool. Just a plain pipe. Black, cut off straight, peeking out of apron.

[louisb]

I am more of a chrome tip guy. Maybe with a hint of a trumpet flair. On HVWs Project 67, wonder what ever happened to that one, they moved the exhaust cutouts from the apron to the fender. Thought that was a novel idea even if it was not something I would do.

--louis

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Possibly a VW version of the Porsche 550 4-cam "Sebring" exhaust ?

[Mike Maize]

Now you are talking Richard!

[javabug]

Hmm I could get into that.  Wonder if anyone ever tried it?

[Tobi/DFL]

I love the look of dual quiet packs and I´m not a fan of turbo mufflers at all, BUT I feel that my dual quiet packs for merged headers isn´t the best for my engine especially when it comes to high revs.  For that reason I´ve made my own dual quiet packs the last few weeks (it still isn´t finished, yet). It has slightly bigger tubes whereas the outer dimensions of the 2 mufflers are exactely the same as on my former CB dual quiets (see pic).

I don´t know if it will work but I´m optimistic. Next season will show...
Bye,

Tobi

[Fastbrit]

Looks good Tobi!

[Mike Maize]

It does look good because it is "big" enough in comparison to muscle under the lid!

[jick]

yeah that does look good, the pipes have a really nice shape to them...

i have a turbo muffler that i'm modiying for my '59, along the same lines as one that Geoff Hart had on his beryl green 59, with a much longer pipe between the flange and muffler...

[louisb]

That looks sweet! Be interested to see how they work and sound.

--louis

[Jim Ratto]

I love the look of dual quiet packs and I´m not a fan of turbo mufflers at all, BUT I feel that my dual quiet packs for merged headers isn´t the best for my engine especially when it comes to high revs.  For that reason I´ve made my own dual quiet packs the last few weeks (it still isn´t finished, yet). It has slightly bigger tubes whereas the outer dimensions of the 2 mufflers are exactely the same as on my former CB dual quiets (see pic).

I don´t know if it will work but I´m optimistic. Next season will show...
Bye,

Tobi

how much for a set?   I'm sold!

[javabug]

Those are just the ticket, Tobi.  Me likey, and will probably try to copy!   

[Cheesepanzer]

Toby, that set-up looks great.  Old-school look with today's technology - sweet!

I'd like to do something similar with my Ghia.   

[Tobi/DFL]

Thanks for the nice comments, everybody! I will keep you updated how the system works!;-)

[LuftsickTero]

I think, if it were possible, a sidewinder type, like Glenn's and have a plain 2-1/2" tailpipe exit, like Glenn's, would be cool. Just a plain pipe. Black, cut off straight, peeking out of apron.

Does anyone in this forum have any experience in A1 sidewinder exhaust?

[Tim C]

I think, if it were possible, a sidewinder type, like Glenn's and have a plain 2-1/2" tailpipe exit, like Glenn's, would be cool. Just a plain pipe. Black, cut off straight, peeking out of apron.

Does anyone in this forum have any experience in A1 sidewinder exhaust?

Andy Jewell ran one for a while, so you could pm him Tero... however it looked very odd when following the car, it didn't look complete. On the "cough cough" resto cal side... Foxy runs one on his GFK 65.

They are really nicely made.

[Zach Gomulka]

Does anyone in this forum have any experience in A1 sidewinder exhaust?

They are quiet... much more so than the standard style A-1 turbo muffler. I think it needs the tips routed out the peashooter holes... would look more appropriate, and stealthy too. Plus, it wouldnt blow dust all over the car when you start it up

[lawrence]

Tero, I have a sidewinder on my 1914 and I am very happy with it.

The quality is good. The slip joints are very tight, so Tiger told me to use wd-40 when assembling and it worked like a charm. I wanted a quiet muffler. Tiger recommended the magnaflow, which is barely audible but still has a nice, mellow tone. It does not sound like a dune buggy or a V-8. I painted my header high temp flat black so it is nice and stealthy. It gives the car a different look. Not resto cal at all

Zach, the muffler only has one tip, but it would probably look very cool to have it stick an inch or so past the peashooter hole. Don't worry about the dust. I am one of those guys who constantly wipes my car down anyway

[folkevogn]

I love the look of dual quiet packs and I´m not a fan of turbo mufflers at all.
Tobi

I totally agree!I bought a muffler to have someone make me a turbomuffler several years ago, I then found out that this wasn`t the way I wanted my car to look(for reasons I wont go into  ) its been bodering me for years, I want look and performance.Been thinking of trying to make something simular to the dual quiet packs for a year or so, but my problem is that the exhaust "flang" sits 5-6cm behind the rear apron witch in turn will make the pipe-bends sit too far from the apron.And I`m scared of loosing horsepower if I shorten it...so my solution so far has been to use the stinger      I cant relax when driving because I`m always scared of meeting the police , witch ruins the joy of using a Hi-pow VW on the street a little bit.

I remember 3 or 4 years ago talking to Paul Rui about me wanting to have a Porsche 550 4-cam "Sebring" exhaust maid for a Type 1, he then told me that there was a guy in England(I think it was Ritchie from Karman connection) who had plans of starting a production of that kind of heaters. I never heard of any product like that hitting the market, so I`m guessing the market wasn`t big enuff or the cost to high. But I think it would look very period and cool on a looker.

[Casey]

Straight stingers! Come on...I can hear it now! Image a cruise with a bunch of 2 liters. I loved parking structures back in the day!! Vish

[team97]

Does anyone in this forum have any experience in A1 sidewinder exhaust?

They are quiet... much more so than the standard style A-1 turbo muffler. I think it needs the tips routed out the peashooter holes... would look more appropriate, and stealthy too. Plus, it wouldnt blow dust all over the car when you start it up

I made mine come out a single pee shooter hole. Tiger made me a Sidewinder with the outlet blank and I routed it myself. Glenn

[Dirk / DFL]

Woah, that looks realy good.

[lawrence]

Yes, it does look good. Glenn, do you have a picture of the entire rear of the car to get a better perspective.