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« Reply #210 on: September 16, 2009, 14:14:54 pm » |
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« Reply #211 on: September 16, 2009, 15:41:26 pm » |
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I dig the swedish thinking of home made is better, what about this little beast. Cut in half Ford BDA 16 valve head.
 Rune, I know this is going back a bit, but do you know anything more about this? Interesting project! Did it get done? Edit: I saw your post a little later that said you had lost track of it. But does anyone know? If it ran?  I followed this engine and car as it was originally running in the late seventies in Rallycross. The inventor was Karl Erik Nilsson in Sweden The crank, rods, all the castings and much more was fabricated by himself. The sound of it at 10 000 rpm in Svampabanan/Tomelilla gave me chills. Almost everytime I pass that track, still today his car and engine is the one I think of. The above picture comes from an advertisement some years ago. One or more copies of his original engine were built with Saab 4 valve heads. They were also turbocharged like this one is. The first years it ran NA and Lucas timed fuel injection. How beautiful!. So a couple of these should still be lying around somewere. Ford BDA and Saab headed. Look closer and look at wahat was done to the center bearing saddles. Replaced with steel in combination with the side steel plates. |
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« Reply #212 on: September 16, 2009, 15:48:19 pm » |
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thats just AWESOME - true engineering  are there any sites out there on the web with more info on these OHC/Rallycross motors |
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« Reply #213 on: September 16, 2009, 20:31:48 pm » |
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« Reply #214 on: September 17, 2009, 21:21:05 pm » |
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But why is the cam gear stil there iif you use ohc ?
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« Reply #215 on: September 17, 2009, 21:57:22 pm » |
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But why is the cam gear stil there iif you use ohc ?
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« Reply #217 on: September 18, 2009, 22:47:21 pm » |
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Amazing! More details please!
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« Reply #218 on: September 22, 2009, 20:00:13 pm » |
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OK, both those pictures are Mika Jansson cars.
He started in mid eighties with a regular beach buggy, t1 and turbo.
First time out with Predator and regular carbs. No idea how quick he went but it was comparably very respectable.
He soon converted to Sune Jansson style T1 with 911 heads, single turbo, sometimes twin turbo, Kugelfisher 3 D mechanical injection, new drag race buggy (currently for sale in Swedish ads without engine) and then the last car he raced was full race beetle with turbo, efi and final season a monster twin Autorotor supercharger and running high 5 seconds on the eigth mile.
Very impressive engineering and very good performance plus good shows on the track.
Thanks Mika and team!
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« Reply #219 on: January 03, 2010, 13:31:00 pm » |
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I am green with envy. How does it run? |
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« Reply #220 on: January 04, 2010, 16:56:56 pm » |
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I have ALWAYS wondered about 4x4 vw's Any more info? Well,here you have mine 4x4 beetle.Was used in the European rallycross championships in 84-85,before the Group B cars.I'm going to restore it one day like it was in the 80's.  |
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« Reply #221 on: January 04, 2010, 17:20:24 pm » |
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Hi Stian,nice find.Who drove this car? 1302 or 1303?And what's the enginesize? I went in 1985 to the eupopeanchamp. in Holland,and there was that "monroe" sponsored beetle from I think Nilssen.Great too see this bug flyin' low. (those were the times) |
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« Reply #222 on: January 04, 2010, 19:54:56 pm » |
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I have ALWAYS wondered about 4x4 vw's Any more info? Well,here you have mine 4x4 beetle.Was used in the European rallycross championships in 84-85,before the Group B cars.I'm going to restore it one day like it was in the 80's. Now thats got me thinking  Given the current road conditions here that would be really fun as a road car I know where an old british rallycross beetle is kept,but it was only 2wd and has a more conventional beetle engine. cheers richie,uk |
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« Reply #223 on: January 04, 2010, 21:01:51 pm » |
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Now that would be a fun winter toy to have, Great Find Stian |
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« Reply #224 on: January 04, 2010, 21:14:03 pm » |
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Hi Stian,nice find.Who drove this car? 1302 or 1303?And what's the enginesize? I went in 1985 to the eupopeanchamp. in Holland,and there was that "monroe" sponsored beetle from I think Nilssen.Great too see this bug flyin' low. (those were the times) Hey. I'm still searching for information regarding this car.From what I have heard and found out this car was driven by a famous norwegian rallycross driver named Thor Holm,at that time the car was yellow.I have been told that Thor bought a 4x4 beetle like this one from Michael Nordström-Sweden,the same guy driving the car you remember from europeanchamp. in Holland 85.My car also had the intercooler placed above the engine lid,before the former owner cut it away because he wanted to place the intercooler inside the car.It is possible it is the same car,hope to find out one day.Have come in contact with one of Thor Holm mechanics from the 80's,waiting to get some more information from him.Regarding model it's mostly a 1303 but with a 1302 front and straight front window,not sure why but was told beacuse of some sort of rules.Engine is a 2.3 with turbo/intercooler,porsche heads,Kügelfisher mechanical injection-can't wait to open it up and have a look..  |
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« Reply #225 on: January 05, 2010, 00:24:35 am » |
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Yes,that's the one.Thx for the info.
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« Reply #226 on: January 05, 2010, 17:30:08 pm » |
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« Reply #227 on: January 05, 2010, 20:04:57 pm » |
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Here is a couple of mine
The First couple are what I had in the Fiat -- This was a large TIV David Whitehead motor
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It is a 2919 ARPM motor with angle port heads -- I'm planning on it looking something like this when done
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« Reply #228 on: January 05, 2010, 20:52:43 pm » |
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« Reply #229 on: January 05, 2010, 22:46:25 pm » |
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Yeah, think I have seen it before ;-)
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« Reply #230 on: January 06, 2010, 00:24:39 am » |
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I've pulled 20-25 pictures of motors with the turbo setting under the apron -- Still don't like the way the intake snakes around -- also I have a larger turbo and don't know if Ill have enough room under the apron so thinking about putting the turbo in front of the motor/ by the axles -- got to get the motor finished and stuffed into the '56 so I can start sticking the turbo in various places and we will see where it all end up LOL
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« Reply #232 on: January 07, 2010, 18:18:06 pm » |
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Here is my 2596 ccm.   Can't see the pictures  Would you guys like to come to Drachten (Netherlands) for racing ? I think it is not so far away from Denmark ! Udo |
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« Reply #233 on: January 07, 2010, 19:45:35 pm » |
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hey udo. we are making a game plan for this year. when is the race in netherland and ather dates for aircooled race you know about.
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« Reply #234 on: January 07, 2010, 21:29:48 pm » |
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Yes the plas is to go to drachten its like 650-700 km so not so bad, but it's more then one time right??
But as peter says we are goner plan witch races we are going to in 2010, so our girlfriends know when they have to sleep alone... LOL naa I think my girlfriend whould love to come to the races she can drive the ATV so she can pull me back to the pit.
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« Reply #235 on: January 07, 2010, 22:30:55 pm » |
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Hey,would be nice to see you there . you can race in Pro ET . They have 3 days events and have 8 qualifyings . so you can drive a lot .. Infos are here http://www.explosiondragracing.com/ on the left you see the dates Udo |
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« Reply #236 on: January 08, 2010, 00:47:10 am » |
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I have ALWAYS wondered about 4x4 vw's Any more info? Well,here you have mine 4x4 beetle.Was used in the European rallycross championships in 84-85,before the Group B cars.I'm going to restore it one day like it was in the 80's. only in Norway Lets have some more info on the running gear please dude |
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« Reply #237 on: January 20, 2010, 10:21:50 am » |
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Sooo many nice engines , shame we can not see the internals ...
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« Reply #238 on: January 27, 2010, 22:44:42 pm » |
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Mine on the dyno at Jay Cee
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« Reply #239 on: January 28, 2010, 07:30:47 am » |
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Hi Bernie
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