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« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2006, 17:24:11 pm »

At one of the races, the fan flew off one of the 12's, car kept running fine. I guess airflow at 200 or so renders the fan surplus to requirements? Can't remember which race but I would guess somewhere like Daytona where the speed is high throughout the lap.

I am not sure what race that happened in...but i seem to remember reading about it.
You are mostly right about the reason why they developed the boxer-16.
It was mostly to scare the competitors, but they were already scared of the boxer-12 :-)
And when they introduced the 917/30 nobody stood a chance and FIA banned it alltogether after a while...check it out:

Engine :Flat 12 turbocharged (max boost 1.5 bar)
Capacity : 5,374cc
Bore / Stroke : 90mm / 70.4mm
Compression ratio :6.5:1
1,100bhp @ 8,000rpm
1,098 Nm @ 6,400rpm
Cross drilled and ventilated discs with drilled aluminium hubs.Porsche aluminium four-piston calipers
Front - 12" x 15" Rear - 19" x 15" cast magnesium alloy wheels with centre nut and air-extractor cones (hub-caps !)
Goodyear
Length - 4,562mm
Width - 2,085mm
Height - 730mm
Unladen weight :
845kg (33/67 front/rear split)
Fuel tank capacity : 400 Litres
Fuel Consumption :85 Litres/100Km (or 3.4 miles per gallon)
Maximum speed : 238mph
Acceleration : 0-60 mph : 2.1 seconds 0-100mph : 3.9 secs 0-200mph : 13.4sec
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« Reply #31 on: October 26, 2006, 10:59:50 am »

Roman, the things remaining from the old motor is the block, crank and rods. The rest is new.

The blue colour is there, but hopefully not in -07.

/Håkan

With black paint you will be making trouble in the very top of the international VW lists...
Can't wait, good luck Håkan!!
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« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2006, 21:44:28 pm »

my engine 2165 cc ( pics 2002) in my ex-tickled pink



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« Reply #33 on: October 30, 2006, 19:43:45 pm »

Typ 4 2366cc Trijekt engine management 212 HP



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« Reply #34 on: October 30, 2006, 23:54:25 pm »

 mmmmm Whats this!? type 4's seem to be taking over  Wink
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« Reply #35 on: November 02, 2006, 06:38:41 am »

Not Really A RACE Engine But It Did Run 11:70 The small motor on the stand is an 82x88 all Empi Motor it has a set 3 bolt 40 DCN Empi Carb Set up,Motor in the Back Ground Is a Berg 78x90.5  k8 cam and 48 IDA's The One In The Back Gound thats Complete is an 82x90.5 with 5.6 Rods FK89 Steve Tims Heads and a set of 48 IDA's I Had This Motor In My 67 Sedan Full Interior it Ran 11:70 Threw the Muffler with Slicks at OCIR
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« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2006, 09:41:11 am »

Here is a picture of my street engine in the first trial assebly stage. I can race it if I want to, it isn't for street use only.  Grin


Roman what spec is that? The manifolds look huge! Smiley
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« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2006, 10:05:57 am »

CB aluminum case
CB 044 wedgeport with 46x37 Manley stock length valves, ported by JPM, stock diameter dual JPM springs, CB Titanium retainers
Gene Berg 52 mm carbs with 44mm venturis
Scat 86 mm flanged crank with type4 journals
Carrillo 5.7" rods
JE 94 mm super light pistons designed by JPM
Mahle cylinders
Engle FK-89 cam
Schubeck composite lifters
Pauter 1.5 rockers
12.3 compression with 1mm deck height.
Custom made A1 1 7/8" exhaust with 2 1/4" collektor och 3" stainless muffler.


One of the most common mistakes people do is porting the manifolds to little, they just match port the first 20 mm or so. To port them enough you need to weld a lot.
Engine made 228 hp with a huge 287 NM torque.
The engine minus heads is for sale, I am stepping up to a 4" bore engine.
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« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2006, 10:08:07 am »

CB aluminum case
CB 044 wedgeport with 46x37 Manley stock length valves, ported by JPM, stock diameter dual JPM springs, CB Titanium retainers
Gene Berg 52 mm carbs with 44mm venturis
Scat 86 mm flanged crank with type4 journals
Carrillo 5.7" rods
JE 94 mm super light pistons designed by JPM
Mahle cylinders
Engle FK-89 cam
Schubeck composite lifters
Pauter 1.5 rockers
12.3 compression with 1mm deck height.
Custom made A1 1 7/8" exhaust with 2 1/4" collektor och 3" stainless muffler.


One of the most common mistakes people do is porting the manifolds to little, they just match port the first 20 mm or so. To port them enough you need to weld a lot.
Engine made 228 hp with a huge 287 NM torque.
The engine minus heads is for sale, I am stepping up to a 4" bore engine.

Nice spec! Wink
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« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2006, 14:17:29 pm »

VW Typ 4 2666cc Trijekt engine management

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« Reply #40 on: November 21, 2006, 19:32:06 pm »

My T-5 2919cc.
It's not a race engine it's a streetrace engine Grin
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« Reply #41 on: November 21, 2006, 23:47:35 pm »

Those head studs look a bit too long.  Wink Smack it together Max,so we can hear it thump this spiring!
I got the first parts for my 2831 today and it looks like the Autocrafts has a bit bigger top cooling fins but smaller fins in the middle of the cylinders.
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« Reply #42 on: November 22, 2006, 12:44:49 pm »

Who, here in scandinavia, convert WBX cases... I know many that can do it, but most of them would be dooing it for the first time.
Any adwise Max? The rest would be 4" and JPM heads... and a wbx demello stroker crank.
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« Reply #43 on: November 22, 2006, 16:42:08 pm »

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« Reply #44 on: November 23, 2006, 18:55:51 pm »

Who, here in scandinavia, convert WBX cases... I know many that can do it, but most of them would be dooing it for the first time.
Any adwise Max? The rest would be 4" and JPM heads... and a wbx demello stroker crank.
you can use a type 1 crank,just need to mess around with the bearings,or just cut it for type 4 bearing all the way through,the area on a wbx crank that the flywheel bolts on is a little bit weak in my opinion,but the rest sounds really good Smiley  cheers richie,uk
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« Reply #45 on: November 24, 2006, 09:13:12 am »

My T-5 2919cc.
It's not a race engine it's a streetrace engine Grin

Holy crap! Shocked
Do you have some specs please?

Cheers,
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« Reply #46 on: November 25, 2006, 10:33:51 am »

So here the 2332cc bolted in  Ingrid'green oval and the 2007cc engine  I'm building for the 64 notch we own
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« Reply #47 on: November 25, 2006, 10:40:04 am »

Those head studs look a bit too long.  Wink Smack it together Max,so we can hear it thump this spiring!
I got the first parts for my 2831 today and it looks like the Autocrafts has a bit bigger top cooling fins but smaller fins in the middle of the cylinders.

It's a old pic Wink
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« Reply #48 on: November 25, 2006, 10:45:34 am »

Who, here in scandinavia, convert WBX cases... I know many that can do it, but most of them would be dooing it for the first time.
Any adwise Max? The rest would be 4" and JPM heads... and a wbx demello stroker crank.

I have a good friend that makes it happen for me.(Fredde in Västerås) There's a lot of work in the convert, but it's a realy a nice case.  Wink
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« Reply #49 on: November 25, 2006, 10:51:14 am »

My T-5 2919cc.
It's not a race engine it's a streetrace engine Grin

Holy crap! Shocked
Do you have some specs please?

Cheers,
Sander

2.1 L case
T-1 90mm crank
Eagle 5.88" rods
101.6mm AA cylinders
101.6mm JE
TSC 30 cam
Pauter 1.3/1
Autocraft 910 heads (ex Paradise express) Roll Eyes

It needs a Turbo and EFI....
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« Reply #50 on: November 27, 2006, 09:04:39 am »

JR59, I'm just curious.... if you're gonna run 48s on a notch, you're gonna have to cut the trunk area out right? If so, why not convert to an upright cooling system?
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« Reply #51 on: November 27, 2006, 11:23:24 am »

Hi rick,well I already own a T3 back in the 90's als with 48 IDA and the original pancake cooling system(on a 1776cc...)so...first of all,I love the look of the engine (all is a flatline the only thing you see when you open the trunk are the IDA... Grin)so it's a challenge.As it's not the fist hot T3 engine we make,all I can say is that if you stay with a CR around 9:1 and have all the cooling tin the engine will run as cool as the original!!.secondly,the IDA+manifold will not be the carburator used for long trip,I plan on 44/45 or 48 IDF or DRLA,the IDA will be screw "sometimes " to have big fun or race here in France.I'm porting a set of T3 low manifold but it's take time so for the beguining I will run the former carb!! Roll Eyes
Here is some photo of the manifold followed by 2 shot of one of our friend'fastback engine
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« Reply #52 on: November 27, 2006, 21:01:10 pm »

Interesting. It certainly looks cool with the lid in place and the 48s sticking through. Sounds like you have the cooling figured out. Any issues with the fan holding together at high rpms?
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« Reply #53 on: November 27, 2006, 23:13:19 pm »

Hi rick,well we never had bad issue with a fan  on a T3,I saw on samba a welded T3 fan but at this time I just balanced them.The critical point is the screw and washer you bolt in the crank (dont forget loctite or you will loose the rate! Grin).
I give you the engine spec: 78.4 (DMS),GB191S rods;Web109+1.25 ; 9.13:1 CR;CBperf 28mm light weight lifters,90.5AA P&C;GB210A sump, 040 (welded 42*37.5+12mm plugs p&p by shawn mac carty);1 3/4 merged "sidewinder"exhaust system(special order for the T3 engine).Hop it will be fun to drive Grin Grin
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« Reply #54 on: November 27, 2006, 23:29:30 pm »

Sounds like a lot of fun! Keep us posted on your progress!
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« Reply #55 on: December 03, 2006, 00:38:33 am »

My T-5 2919cc.
It's not a race engine it's a streetrace engine Grin

I have a 2.1 DJ wasserboxer case lying around as well, should be a nice project some day!  Wink

But if anyone who lives nearby is interested let me know!

P.s. JHU, try Morten on http://vwnettet.dk/, get the case machined is the largest issue indeed...
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« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2006, 09:30:53 am »

Thanks 67!
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« Reply #57 on: December 08, 2006, 12:52:41 pm »

Typ 4 2,7 L engine plus heads Trijekt engine management



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« Reply #58 on: December 09, 2006, 21:46:43 pm »

Pauter Bigblock 3256 from 2005
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« Reply #59 on: December 09, 2006, 21:57:42 pm »

Jesus, that's not an engine that is a beast!

It reminds me of the famous qoute from Crocodile Dundee:
Sue: Mick, give him your wallet.
Mick: What for?
Sue: He's got a knife.
Mick (brandishing his own weapon): That's not a knife. This is a knife.

BTW rumours say a N/A Pauter engine is on it's way to Sweden to be installed in a Cal-Looker!

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