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« Reply #300 on: November 05, 2009, 12:52:09 pm »

A tiny one this time, brake hose clips genuine 7.8g, stainless 5.5g saving 13.8g per car, not including the rust on old ones Grin and they're shiny Cheesy
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« Reply #301 on: November 05, 2009, 18:56:10 pm »

Where do you get stainless ones?
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« Reply #302 on: November 05, 2009, 20:01:58 pm »

Where do you get stainless ones?

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« Reply #303 on: November 05, 2009, 20:23:43 pm »

200mm KEP 1700# pressure plate vs aluminium version of the same. Savings of 1,528.7 grams or just under 3lbs 6oz


I sent a message to KEP, and they don't make a Type 1 clutch where the stamped part is Aluminium.  What is that clutch you weighed for?

KEP said their aluminium Type 1 clutch is a "Stage I with aluminum face".

How does this work?  Anyone ever used a clutch with an aluminium shoe?
Scott Sebastian runs my old one in his class 11 car.
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« Reply #304 on: November 08, 2009, 19:59:09 pm »

Does anyone know what the weight difference is between a super diff and a quaife lsd? I keep hearing that they are heavy but how heavy is heavy?

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« Reply #305 on: November 08, 2009, 21:29:12 pm »

Ask Peter,

Its quite a lot.
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« Reply #306 on: November 08, 2009, 21:49:18 pm »

Can't help you with the weight of a quaife, but off the top of my head my old T1 IRS ZF weighed in at 16.5lbs if I remember correctly, and my 091 Peloquin TBD is roughly a fokken tank.
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« Reply #307 on: November 09, 2009, 08:43:37 am »

I shall give Mr E a call later,

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« Reply #308 on: November 09, 2009, 12:54:23 pm »

How many kg is it in a single skin body,if i remove all the the inner panels?.The bulkhead and the rear sheet metal
is already gone,and its going to be replaced with 0.7 alu panels,is it worth the job?what do you think?
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« Reply #309 on: November 10, 2009, 08:41:28 am »

has anyone had sucess with an aluminum beam in a full bodied car? do they hold up? pros? cons?
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« Reply #310 on: November 10, 2009, 10:54:39 am »

I've got one in my '66, it's stood up to a years worth of wheelies and street driving with no real problems,
it's a jamar one with the billet shock towers. If you get one be sure to check the alignment of the top and bottom adjusters, the one i got was out by about 1.5 mm and caused a bit of head scratching when it came down to sorting the camber!

Saved around 15 kg over the original b/j beam

And they look good too, my mot tester was v. impressed

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« Reply #311 on: November 10, 2009, 10:59:09 am »

has anyone had sucess with an aluminum beam in a full bodied car? do they hold up? pros? cons?

Pete Shattock and Andy Marriot from the Outlaws both run aluminium beams, Andy only swapped over recently but Pete has been running one for several years, having driven all over europe with it. Both run stock stroke motors in all steel cars (Pete has a 1776 '61, Andy has a 1914 '66) running 11.9's and 12.0's!

I'm sure either of them would chime in with more help! Wink
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« Reply #312 on: November 10, 2009, 17:41:40 pm »

thanks for the input guys Grin
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« Reply #313 on: November 10, 2009, 22:42:06 pm »

As Andy and Neil have already said there is no problem in principal with and ali beam with a street car but I would suggest you keep an eye on two things. The bushes in the beams don't necessarily fit to well and I've ended up making new ones (speak to Paul Woodhead on here about suitable material) and now the bushes fit the beam and the arms very nicely so there is no play. The other issue is if you use a standard steering box you need to be carefull that when you bolt it up to the beam that the you do not over tighten the clamp as the beam goes out of round and pinches the arm in the beam and you loose free suspension travel on that side of the car with some nasty handling consequences. I ended up locating the steering box and torquing it to the recommended VW spec 22-25ft-lbs (I think) and reaming the bush in position in the beam, to ensure you still have free travel. 
There is one other thing the look good with the wheels up off the startline!

Hope this helps

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« Reply #314 on: November 11, 2009, 01:30:39 am »

thanks peter
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« Reply #315 on: November 12, 2009, 21:51:45 pm »

Door hinges in aluminum Grin
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« Reply #316 on: November 13, 2009, 04:16:25 am »

Door hinges in aluminum Grin

Dibbs!

Did ya make more than 1 set?
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« Reply #317 on: November 13, 2009, 13:58:21 pm »

Door hinges in aluminum Grin

Dibbs!

Did ya make more than 1 set?
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« Reply #318 on: November 14, 2009, 01:12:38 am »

Door hinges in aluminum Grin

Dibbs!

Did ya make more than 1 set?

If you are making more than one set of these,I am sure there will be a few people on here who are interested (me included).
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« Reply #319 on: November 14, 2009, 07:54:47 am »

We're interested as well...not to be rude, but do you have a price in mind?

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« Reply #320 on: November 14, 2009, 19:17:25 pm »



A bit of d.i.y...0,6 mm. polycarbonat lenses...app.40 gram...made over a casting(and not over the glass !),so they will fit inside the chrome rim like the original lenses  Wink

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« Reply #321 on: November 15, 2009, 08:30:27 am »

A bit of d.i.y. -0,6 mm. polycarbonat lenses...app.40 gram...made over a casting(and not over the glass !),so they will fit inside the chrome rim like the original lenses  Wink
Planning on making more?

I'm liking what Stephan did to his coil bracket:

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« Reply #322 on: November 15, 2009, 09:21:51 am »

A bit of d.i.y. -0,6 mm. polycarbonat lenses...app.40 gram...made over a casting(and not over the glass !),so they will fit inside the chrome rim like the original lenses  Wink
Planning on making more?

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This was my very first "pull", but yes,-I'm planning to make more....Casting a model of the old symetric lenses too.....
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« Reply #323 on: November 16, 2009, 21:35:48 pm »

A bit of d.i.y. -0,6 mm. polycarbonat lenses...app.40 gram...made over a casting(and not over the glass !),so they will fit inside the chrome rim like the original lenses  Wink
Planning on making more?

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This was my very first "pull", but yes,-I'm planning to make more....Casting a model of the old symetric lenses too.....

Keep us posted  Wink
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« Reply #324 on: November 21, 2009, 14:06:17 pm »



Some great ideas for weight saving here but what about safety issues ?

Are there certain things that shouldnt be lightened or certain nuts and bolts that need strength rather than lightness ?

Any ideas as i'm now stripping my 67 for a full rebuild though it will be road biased with some strip action.

Anyway, dont we need a bit of weight at the front end . . . . . .   Huh
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« Reply #325 on: November 21, 2009, 19:39:05 pm »

Are there certain things that shouldnt be lightened or certain nuts and bolts that need strength rather than lightness ?
When you're looking at the fasteners for the steering or suspension, leave the original steel bolts in there.  To hold the wings on, aluminium is plenty strong enough.  How much does a wing weigh?
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« Reply #326 on: November 21, 2009, 19:53:37 pm »

Are there certain things that shouldnt be lightened or certain nuts and bolts that need strength rather than lightness ?
When you're looking at the fasteners for the steering or suspension, leave the original steel bolts in there.  To hold the wings on, aluminum is plenty strong enough.  How much does a wing weigh?

Or if your budget allows replace steel bolts for titanium. Wink
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« Reply #327 on: November 22, 2009, 08:44:45 am »

Are there certain things that shouldnt be lightened or certain nuts and bolts that need strength rather than lightness ?
When you're looking at the fasteners for the steering or suspension, leave the original steel bolts in there.  To hold the wings on, aluminium is plenty strong enough.  How much does a wing weigh?

Steel rear wing = 8lbs
Steel front wing = 12lbs

Day Mouldings rear wing = 4lbs
Day Mouldings front wing = 6lbs
(Race weight wings)

Total weight saving = 20lbs
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« Reply #328 on: December 09, 2009, 19:33:59 pm »

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=745441

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« Reply #329 on: December 10, 2009, 16:50:34 pm »

can you say

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