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« Reply #60 on: June 03, 2008, 06:26:24 am » |
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« Reply #61 on: June 05, 2008, 04:46:28 am » |
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back with some more. wasent sastified and still am not but will let the intake ride for now. ex im going to change slightly not the shape of it self but the pocket area. well we hit the 300+ mark. again at 25inches unshrowed chamber and flycut another .060 so that makes a total of 250 flycut and a 38cc chamber now 300cfm at 700 lift 304 cfm at 740 lift int at 28 inches would convert to 322cfm but like i said before were keepen it real. 194cfm at 650 lift ex 64.9% still sorta low on the persentage ex side so im going to play with that some more.well there it is for now the head is deffenetly a true contender in the NA ACVW world for kickin some serious ASS 300+ HP styel i dident have any doupts that it would i am very proud and dedicated to take on the task and cant wait to get ahold of the steering wheel and the GO pedal. hers a picture of the 38cc chamber and the flow sheet. again thanks mike for flowen the head. UD.
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« Reply #62 on: June 05, 2008, 07:11:11 am » |
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very very nice work. cant wait for my set to be done...
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« Reply #63 on: June 15, 2008, 18:11:07 pm » |
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hairdryer anyone?? Looking good jeff cheers richie,uk Handled. I have a set being ported right now to replace these -
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« Reply #64 on: June 15, 2008, 19:10:57 pm » |
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hairdryer anyone?? Looking good jeff cheers richie,uk Handled. I have a set being ported right now to replace these - Hey buddy,welcome to the lounge-nice picture..
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« Reply #65 on: June 15, 2008, 21:05:43 pm » |
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« Reply #66 on: June 15, 2008, 22:04:13 pm » |
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Jeff, Absolute genius work! I'm amazed. A true artisan. Now ... when will mine be on the bench??? Get some rest, it looks like you need it! Take care, Tom
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« Reply #67 on: June 16, 2008, 02:07:23 am » |
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hey tom..better get in line quick....once that test head is done and jeff is happy, he already has 5 or 6 sets to do..but he loves it so keep it coming
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« Reply #68 on: June 16, 2008, 04:37:39 am » |
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I thought I was already IN line! Did somebody take cuts?! By the looks of these, Jeff must be absolutely bored to tears with the set he's working for me right now, and they're going to be pretty cool! I know he can do them in his sleep though. Jeff, I'll get those flow numbers to ya tomorrow ... Tom
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« Reply #69 on: June 16, 2008, 17:24:42 pm » |
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ya tom...that tim guy and that richie guy...personally i would call and complain just kidding...didnt you order two sets of angle flows?
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« Reply #70 on: June 16, 2008, 20:49:24 pm » |
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« Reply #71 on: June 16, 2008, 20:50:25 pm » |
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ya tom...that tim guy and that richie guy...personally i would call and complain just kidding...didnt you order two sets of angle flows? Are mine done then? ?? Both sets?? cheers richie,uk
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« Reply #72 on: June 17, 2008, 05:34:21 am » |
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ya tom...that tim guy and that richie guy... Hi guys, do you think he can do up a set of manifolds for those heads to run dual progressives?
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« Reply #73 on: June 17, 2008, 12:45:48 pm » |
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I thinkby the looks of those ports they more need more on the order of QUAD progressives! But I'm sure if you incorporate a SVDA distributor the mileage will be excellent.
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« Reply #74 on: June 18, 2008, 06:07:09 am » |
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im sure you guys are YAAAING by now hers a few more pictures and another flow sheet. im gona go back to the bench one more time for the 2.200 int and 1.600 ex side then i will move to other side and do a 50x41 fluff and buff or get carride away like i usaly do. as of right now its 323cfm at 800 lift at 25in still a 58mm manifold opening. UD.
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« Reply #75 on: June 18, 2008, 06:13:48 am » |
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Thanks so much for sharing those pics and flow sheets Jeff, great stuff. What seat throat do you go for normally?
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« Reply #76 on: June 18, 2008, 06:17:50 am » |
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hers the red hot 56mm intakes. i know its should be cool blue but no blue light. UD.
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« Reply #77 on: June 18, 2008, 06:36:57 am » |
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I bet you could make almost a hundred horsepower with those! Huh?
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« Reply #78 on: June 18, 2008, 17:19:56 pm » |
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At your .700" number...
54mm Valve = 3.55" Sq. at 288 CFM / 3.55 = 81.12 CFM of flow per Sq in. of valve area
56mm Valve = 3.81" Sq. at 306 CFM / 3.81 = 80.31 CFM of flow per Sq in. of valve area
For comparison a decent 42mm T1 head Flowing 200 CFM at .650 lift
42mm Valve = 2.14 " Sq. at 200CFM / 2.14 = 93.45 CFM of flow per Sq. inch of valve area
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« Reply #79 on: June 19, 2008, 00:21:44 am » |
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At your .700" number...
54mm Valve = 3.55" Sq. at 288 CFM / 3.55 = 81.12 CFM of flow per Sq in. of valve area
56mm Valve = 3.81" Sq. at 306 CFM / 3.81 = 80.31 CFM of flow per Sq in. of valve area
For comparison a decent 42mm T1 head Flowing 200 CFM at .650 lift
42mm Valve = 2.14 " Sq. at 200CFM / 2.14 = 93.45 CFM of flow per Sq. inch of valve area
K-Roc,
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« Reply #80 on: June 19, 2008, 05:57:39 am » |
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hey thanks you guys for all the compliments. and for the ones that dont think that it is up to your 106.7 standards because ya know what i know what i have done for this hobby which is alot more than some LA based radio staion. i will say again im not done with the head i thought when i started this project i would creep up on the flow and show you a progress flow charts and progress pictures also did i tell you i dont get paid for this kind of thing so i have to draw the line and move on to paying jobs my payment is seeing progress. im not ashamed nor imbarassed what so ever. oh and buy the way not to be mean i am aware what a desent set of 42x37s lowwww comp and high work like i have just a fewwww sets around this globe that ime very proude of like about 20yrs worth. take care yall. UD.
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« Reply #81 on: June 19, 2008, 06:26:36 am » |
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I love you Jeff! Maybe any decenters could DRIVE their rig out to Vegas from OC along side Jeff and race him at the track . Anyone ?
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« Reply #82 on: June 19, 2008, 09:03:56 am » |
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... Maybe any decenters could DRIVE their rig out to Vegas from OC along side Jeff and race him at the track ... Can I put some money on UD to win? All motor, like for like road mileage, (at the same time of day), one pass, heads-up.
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« Reply #83 on: June 19, 2008, 09:45:46 am » |
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The Radio, ain't like it use to be , epscically when you get all the members of the BAND, on here trying to put some kind of new tune together,but can only come up with same tune every time!!!
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Big Power
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« Reply #84 on: June 20, 2008, 00:24:08 am » |
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At your .700" number...
54mm Valve = 3.55" Sq. at 288 CFM / 3.55 = 81.12 CFM of flow per Sq in. of valve area
56mm Valve = 3.81" Sq. at 306 CFM / 3.81 = 80.31 CFM of flow per Sq in. of valve area
For comparison a decent 42mm T1 head Flowing 200 CFM at .650 lift
42mm Valve = 2.14 " Sq. at 200CFM / 2.14 = 93.45 CFM of flow per Sq. inch of valve area
K-Roc,
Darren, So far I have my new Component Development heads flowing 350 cfm at .800 lift @25" with a 53mm valve. This comes out to 104.47 cfm of flow per sq. inch. How does this compare with what the V8 guys are doing? Pat Downs
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« Reply #85 on: June 20, 2008, 01:49:41 am » |
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thanks for sharing those numbers that anybody can type on a computer....i only see Jeff putting his balls on the table and sharing numbers from actual flow sheets from an unbiased source....i also do not see him stealing other peoples threads and basically bashing other peoples work...but if that is how you want to be then maybe you should start your own thread to discuss your heads......this just reminds that no good deed goes unpunished.
oh and by the way bring your real street car (NA) that can make a 40 mile plus drive and YOUGOTHEADUP!!!
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Big Power
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« Reply #86 on: June 20, 2008, 02:25:22 am » |
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thanks for sharing those numbers that anybody can type on a computer....i only see Jeff putting his balls on the table and sharing numbers from actual flow sheets from an unbiased source....i also do not see him stealing other peoples threads and basically bashing other peoples work...but if that is how you want to be then maybe you should start your own thread to discuss your heads......this just reminds that no good deed goes unpunished.
oh and by the way bring your real street car (NA) that can make a 40 mile plus drive and YOUGOTHEADUP!!!
Sorry dude but I don't have to make up flow numbers. If you want some pics of my heads on the bench showing the flowcom at 350cfm @25" send me your email address. Unbiased source? I have nothing to do with the CD head. Our company has it's own line of heads. I use the CD head because the biggest valve I can get in the Comp Elim is a 50mm x 40mm. Just to let you know, I have pushed the CE head to over 300 cfm at .750 lift with a 50mm intake. I plan on running my car in the Pro Stock Nationals in 09. This is why the move to the Component Development head. But, so far the Comp Elim has gone 10.07 at 137mph in a NA 1550lb car. I was not trying to take anything from Jeff and the angle flow head. The angle flow has been around forever and is a great cylinder head. Bashing, I don't think so. I'm sure you know, there are porters getting 315-320 cfm from a 50mm valve on an autocraft head. I think Darren was pointing out that the angle flow head Jeff is working on has room left in it. Jeff said the same thing and I am sure he will improve on it. Relax a little can't we just be friends BTW, you seem a liitle old to be talking the yougotheadup, I thought that was for little kids.
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« Reply #87 on: June 20, 2008, 05:38:43 am » |
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right on..like your response.. oh and the headup comment....keeps the mind young...so ill take the little kid comment in stride and good luck in the prostock nationals next year! Tim Sholl
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« Reply #88 on: June 20, 2008, 16:25:32 pm » |
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At your .700" number...
54mm Valve = 3.55" Sq. at 288 CFM / 3.55 = 81.12 CFM of flow per Sq in. of valve area
56mm Valve = 3.81" Sq. at 306 CFM / 3.81 = 80.31 CFM of flow per Sq in. of valve area
For comparison a decent 42mm T1 head Flowing 200 CFM at .650 lift
42mm Valve = 2.14 " Sq. at 200CFM / 2.14 = 93.45 CFM of flow per Sq. inch of valve area
K-Roc,
Darren, So far I have my new Component Development heads flowing 350 cfm at .800 lift @25" with a 53mm valve. This comes out to 104.47 cfm of flow per sq. inch. How does this compare with what the V8 guys are doing? Pat Downs Sounds great Pat. Is the intake port still the same size as the last time we talked or did you open it up a little more? I am guessing that is without manifold but with a clay raduis of some kind on the port? ( if it's with a manifold your my new hero ) And your right... I was merely pointing out that there was a bunch more room for Jeff in that port. I think with that size of valve it will be hard to get the number up there without welding now, as the choke point will be too far up the port. ( perhaps my wording could have been a little different to protect the sensitive types) But these guys felt the need to jump all over it and bash my nickname etc...
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Big Power
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« Reply #89 on: June 20, 2008, 16:41:22 pm » |
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The port is still the same. I actually picked up a few cfm with the manifold. With clay, the port flows 345cfm. The manifold must be directing the air into the port better.
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