JHU's timebandit

[Harry/FDK]

Synthetic oil has superior lubricating capabilities and will not let your piston rings wear in (fit to the sylinder) as fast as dino oil.
I used Synthetic oil during the breaking in of the cam, since that is a case of work harding the cam and not a "wear in" issue.

Then I used mineral to set the rings, and back to synthetic before the dino stuff got the engine all dirty inside.
I set the rings by this method: http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm But I don't recommend it to others. People can chose for themselves.   

Harry, what do you mean with "quick change"?

"quick change" I don't know if its a race or street engine. What i've learned is that you break in the engine on mineral for a couple of 100, maybe 1000 km's, and then change to fully Synth. But again that's what i learned about the mineral versus synthetic issue. 

[richie]

Synthetic oil has superior lubricating capabilities and will not let your piston rings wear in (fit to the sylinder) as fast as dino oil.
I used Synthetic oil during the breaking in of the cam, since that is a case of work harding the cam and not a "wear in" issue.

Then I used mineral to set the rings, and back to synthetic before the dino stuff got the engine all dirty inside.
I set the rings by this method: http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm But I don't recommend it to others. People can chose for themselves.   

Harry, what do you mean with "quick change"?

"quick change" I don't know if its a race or street engine. What i've learned is that you break in the engine on mineral for a couple of 100, maybe 1000 km's, and then change to fully Synth. But again that's what i learned about the mineral versus synthetic issue. 

I break the cam in on mineral oil and then after  15/20 miles of load to bed the rings in, swap out to Semi or full synth depending on the engine.
cheers richie,uk

[Harry/FDK]

Thanks Richie, my feeling told me that one probably "contaminate" the cylinder walls with synthetic, so the wearing in process takes a lot longer if at all. Correct me if i'm wrong.

[richie]

Thanks Richie, my feeling told me that one probably "contaminate" the cylinder walls with synthetic, so the wearing in process takes a lot longer if at all. Correct me if i'm wrong.

You are correct,synthetic is too slippery and will stop your rings bedding in properly

cheers richie,uk

[Jon]

Okay boys, can I save the cylinders if I hone them?

[Harry/FDK]

That one's for Richie.

[richie]

Okay boys, can I save the cylinders if I hone them?

I dont see why that would be needed,how many miles do you have on it? might be worth doing a leakdown test on it to see where its at but when you run it on mineral oil, the synth would disapear from the cylinder walls allowing the rings to bed in.

Fingers crossed

cheers richie,uk

[Jon]

It was just a joke, I'm really not worried at all, having 2% synthetic oil in 4-5 liters of mineral does not make it synthetic (if it does, its a good business idea).
And I had no problem seating the rings, the fact that they are 1 mm 1.2 and 2,8 oil might have something to do with it, but I doubt it.   

[Jon]

The first version of the engine is now done, Its sitting in "Jordebilen" for testing purposes and I have now ironed out many of the smal isues that my engines have...
I have used Engine analyzer extensively to maximize the racing potential of this little 2176... I "knew" it needed big carbs so I borrowed a set of 51,5 IDAs for the dyno session, but due to a couple of screw ups we installed the 48's out of frustration, it later turned out that my fuel regulator was waaaay of. With that fixed it was on to the ignition, turned out that instead of getting the 009 curve I asked for Don Zig had given me a static set up... fine by me, but not what I asked for. Anyway at 20° advance it had 171 hp, and it gained 30 hp by giving it 10° more... when it was all said and done I landed at 207,5 hp at 7670 rpm... I'm soo happy! but the best part is that the curves cam out just as I wanted them to....  I just cant help thinking we should have tested it with the 51,5s too... o' well there is always next year...

[ESH]

Is this engine heading for Gardermoen at the weekend?

[Mags]

 

[Trond Dahl]

Nice Jon, congratulations!

[n2o]

Is this engine heading for Gardermoen at the weekend?

Yeah, I can not see any reason why it should not come to Gardermoen.....now it's time to see if the driver is up to it...we know the engine will performe......

[Jon]

Just TRY stopping me!! 

[n2o]

There will be alot of showdowns at SCC...I am looking for the one between JEE and JHU....battle of the rats (and I do not mean the drivers)

[ESH]

... now it's time to see if the driver is up to it...we know the engine will performe ...

... battle of the rats (and I do not mean the drivers) ...

 

[Jon]

Interesting, one "all round" car against a race car with a huge engine....

[Harry/FDK]

Woow 207.5 Any pics of the engine John ?

[Jee Ent.]

Interesting, one "all round" car against a race car with a huge engine....

That's the talk of gay afraid of loosing.

I'll leave me slicks at home. My car will never be a racecar... no matter what.. 
And the only huge thing in that car is, and will be, my belly.

[BeetleBug]

Interesting, one "all round" car against a race car with a huge engine....

That's the talk of gay afraid of loosing.

I'll leave me slicks at home. My car will never be a racecar... no matter what.. 
And the only huge thing in that car is, and will be, my belly.

Are you saying that you have mounted cooling on your engine this year? This is one race I can`t wait to watch... together with the rest 

[Jon]

Woow 207.5 Any pics of the engine John ?

Hey Harry, I haven't gotten around to taking any pictures yet... but perhaps I can take some at SCC

[Jon]

I'll leave me slicks at home. My car will never be a racecar... no matter what.. 

Bring your slicks dude, you gonna need all the help you can get!    Street tire huh.. or dot slicks? No matter I got both...
Actually its quite foolish to believe I will have the time to run my car, and make the final tweaks to my state of the art machine...
So it will be gung-ho style as usual!

[n2o]

I'll leave me slicks at home. My car will never be a racecar... no matter what.. 

Actually its quite foolish to believe I will have the time to run my car, and make the final tweaks to my state of the art machine...
So it will be gung-ho style as usual!

The "happy go lucky" style

[Jon]

Well after the first pass I was rewarded with a 12.318 @ 172.24 Km/t. Nice to be back at the rubber after four years without any track time.... the engine has improved 1.2 sec since then...

[Harry/FDK]

Woow 207.5 Any pics of the engine John ?

PLS.
Hey Harry, I haven't gotten around to taking any pictures yet... but perhaps I can take some at SCC

[Jon]

Thanks guys, I´m working hard these days, and, I´m not filling in the cutouts. 

GOOD NEWS!! I have grown wiser!

And fixed all the broken liks...

[Jon]

Some years ago 6(?) I found some strange Recaros in Sweden, the seller wanted to keep the Recaro badges, but I got them for a good price. My friend BuggyJanne picked them up and brought them to Norway. I did some investigations but no one had ever seen them before. They have a exoskeleton construction with a lot of exposed sheet metal on the back. One of the seats had ok trim but was severely beat up skeleton, and the other had close to perfect sheet metal and no trim left. So that they need re-trimming was obvious, since they are going in to the time bandit sometime down the road they need to look good. After some years found out that they are called Recaro Rally 2 and that they are from the early seventies, perfect for the theme of my car. Good old Mags told me could bring them over Bernard Newbury for me but there was just a three day notice, one of the days being New years eve. i spent two hole days and a night on rebuilding the base on of the  seats, there was just too much to straighten so I made dies and pressed new panels for it. I made the deadline with hours to spare and the seats went abroad with Mags... A month later they showed up at Bernies and should be undergoing work this spring. So its decision time regarding fabrics and finish.

[Lee.C]

 

Lets see the seats then.....

[ovaldriver56]

I love my Rallye 2´s 

[Lee.C]

COOL