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andy198712
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« Reply #60 on: March 09, 2014, 11:06:33 am »

Hello ,
Just read the thread and its a great read, are your HP figures at the wheels?
Sorry to hear about your oil seal issues, I too have heard to fully seat the seal so have done that on a current build.
Did you have to wait long for the wings?

All the best
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Eddie DVK
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« Reply #61 on: March 09, 2014, 12:10:17 pm »

Hello ,
Just read the thread and its a great read, are your HP figures at the wheels?
Sorry to hear about your oil seal issues, I too have heard to fully seat the seal so have done that on a current build.
Did you have to wait long for the wings?

All the best
Andy

Hi Andy, no figure is at flywheel.. so not so impressive, but torque is ok.. but have some improvements in store.
Yup I will try the put the seal in fully seated.

I orded the wings through Richie on here.. I was not in a hurry, and they were at Richie for a few months before we picked them up... so..

Regards Edgar
 
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andy198712
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« Reply #62 on: March 09, 2014, 18:58:58 pm »

i used an old oil seal to sink mine in till it bottomed out which wasn't far.

i don't know, a lot of people talk about numbers but i bet it FEELS fast!! i would just not get caught up with numbers  Wink
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« Reply #63 on: March 10, 2014, 08:39:52 am »

OK, I thought I will make this easy to refit, so drilled some 6mm holes before I drilled out all the spotwelds, so when I refit the valance it is still properly aligned as it was stock mounted.

Here you can see the holes.


And remounting the valance is now an easy job...you can see the M6 bolts in place



Regards Edgar
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Eddie DVK
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« Reply #64 on: March 16, 2014, 09:48:58 am »

Ok found the cause of the leak, the small outer lip is ripped of the seal... Cry
Old mechanic told me when they had this the seal was to far out.... comfirms then what Spanners, Joe and Andy are saying.

You can see the ripped pieces laying in the webbing of the case


Incl. pieces of the seal


A bit difficult to see..


Regards Edgar
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Eddie DVK
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« Reply #65 on: December 02, 2014, 09:33:21 am »

Ok to make the forum alive again, here an update.

After the 3th flywheel seal leak, I went ahead and bought some extra flywheels.
Choose to go with a nos 200mm one, sent it away to have it lightend and balanced.
Put the new flywheel seal al the way in after some advise on here.
Hopes this will hold longer then 500km this time. Fingers crossed.


When it is out of the garage again, I use it as a daily driver in the summer.
Going to look if this cools like it is advertised.


Ok went further ahead with the removable rear valance, trimmed some stuf of the valance to make it easier to refit.
Repainted everything to make it look shiny again.
Made a plate to tighten the valance good between wings and body.
Also made some carb windows for more excess for carb tuning.





Made some brackets to the inner body to fit a engine hanger, because of the exhaust set up, nothing normal will fit so made my own,
see how this works out.



Fitting the engine is now a brease, the type 4 is a little to big to get in/out without removing almost everything from the engine.



And gathering some parts and playing around for my future engine build 4inch type 4 engine. those are the famous Deutz 100mm cilinders.



Only thing to do is weleding some holes in the front floor, those will follow later.

Regards Edgar
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« Reply #66 on: December 02, 2014, 09:46:24 am »

Excellent update, thanks! I like your engine mounts a lot.

Best rgs
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Eddie DVK
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« Reply #67 on: December 13, 2014, 10:40:46 am »

It is a bit shaby enginehanger (selfmade), but it works  Tongue


Engine is almost coplete again


And some new parts for future.


With new 22mm bush installed and ARP2000 bolts


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« Reply #68 on: December 13, 2014, 13:14:57 pm »

hey Eddie,

Can you tell a bit about the oilpump? looks like a realy nice piece
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« Reply #69 on: December 13, 2014, 16:57:27 pm »

It is a bit shaby enginehanger (selfmade), but it works  Tongue

I don't think your engine hanger is shabby at all, it's an original and well thought out item, far better than a shop bought item anyone can buy.
Well done, We need more new ideas to stop everything looking like the same person built them all.
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« Reply #70 on: December 13, 2014, 20:24:38 pm »

hey Eddie,

Can you tell a bit about the oilpump? looks like a realy nice piece

There was a guy on e-bay.de that makes his own type 4 oilpumps with bigger gears. Just saw them on a other forum, and thought well lets try it.
It s a 30mm version, housing made out of allu.


It is a bit shaby enginehanger (selfmade), but it works  Tongue

I don't think your engine hanger is shabby at all, it's an original and well thought out item, far better than a shop bought item anyone can buy.
Well done, We need more new ideas to stop everything looking like the same person built them all.

Thank you, but there wasn t one that cleared my header/oilfilter/oilfiller, so had to make one of my own.  Grin
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« Reply #71 on: December 16, 2014, 14:18:22 pm »

Nice, good to see you keep working on it Cool  Like that you figured out your own engine hanger as well, looks like it will do the job

cheers Richie
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Eddie DVK
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« Reply #72 on: December 29, 2014, 10:32:57 am »

Ok made some progress.

The end result, this is why I neede to built one myself, it now cleares the header.


Also made my own engine bay cover out of sheet alu.. to keep the hot air out of the engine bay.


and one extra, because I like it  Tongue


Ok now on to the front.. have to weld some small holes in the framehead..

Regards edgar
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andy198712
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« Reply #73 on: December 29, 2014, 17:09:11 pm »

Looks good!
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« Reply #74 on: March 08, 2015, 11:03:58 am »

Ok small update.
After installing the engine and placing everything back, I had an new frontbeam that I wanted to place.
So removed the old beam and was checking the framehead a little, started cleaning the framehead and discovered some holes..
Those are typical due to the western Europe climate. but this wasn t planned.
So tried to weld it myself but due to the lack of a carlift... it is hard to weld, laying on the floor..
Well also I am just learning to weld... But after trying a few times decided to not do it myself.
A few of my vw buddies have good experience with https://www.facebook.com/pages/Autolas-Restauratiebedrijf-HB-van-Kranen/113614605394018
and I do know him a little so made an appointment.
Good service and good result, I am very happy with the result. because I can now drive my beetle this summer.  Smiley







So still need to place the new beam, but will do this in the coming months when time allows.

Regards Edgar
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« Reply #75 on: March 08, 2015, 16:15:18 pm »

Nice to see it up and running Eddie let's do Some meetings this year
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« Reply #76 on: March 09, 2015, 08:07:57 am »

Nice to see it up and running Eddie let's do Some meetings this year

That is the plan Hans  Wink
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« Reply #77 on: March 09, 2015, 16:41:31 pm »

I love the car, and I would like to see more on the Deutz cylinder swap!!!!    Wink
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« Reply #78 on: March 30, 2015, 12:37:34 pm »

Ok finaly got some work done.

The pushrods are finaly done.


They are in now and seem to work properly.

I am confused on what to set valvegap on these aluminuim pushrods, I saw and hear a lot of different figures...
some saying 0mm (zero) and some say 0.10mm.
Please could somebody point me into the right direction.

And another small question which sparkplugs do people use in typ 4 engines.
(had a answer from rasser what he is using in his typ 4 ''NGK B7 (canīt remember if it is ES or HS style...)'') 

Thanks in advance

Kind regards Edgar



Are these Aircooled.net alu pushrods? Where can i get these better pushrods?
I know the other cheap alu HD pushrod stuff is waste of money...

Thanks
Bye
Tom
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« Reply #79 on: March 30, 2015, 19:09:08 pm »

Yes they are the alu ones from aircoolednet.
Don t know if they still have them.
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« Reply #80 on: April 22, 2015, 13:48:16 pm »

Ok Small update.

I like to corner my car normally, so I like to brace my front suspension.
My old beam is getting a bit shabby, so found a replacement beam, a stronger version out of a Kubel/ 181 / trekker
it has a welded box over the shock towers and does have standard front end stiffeners.
Because the bottom plate off a 181 is a bit different, I have adjusted the front stiffeners a bit, welded a plate over them to lengthen them so they will fit to the A frame bolts now.



Have to dril some holes in them and then they are ready for paint and placement.

I will post some pictures of the complete set up when finished.
Time to get it on the road again.
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« Reply #81 on: April 24, 2015, 06:51:24 am »

With new 22mm bush installed and ARP2000 bolts


Who was your supplier on these rods?

Cheers,
Steven
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« Reply #82 on: April 24, 2015, 11:36:07 am »

Hello Steven,

They are from EMW (http://www.europeanmotorworks.com/).
The there are some e-bay shops that have them too.

Regards Edgar
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« Reply #83 on: May 14, 2015, 09:02:40 am »

Ok ready for Dutch MOT.
Is good for 2 years again.
New front axle is in with front stiffeners... a bit hard to see.

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« Reply #84 on: May 15, 2015, 10:35:59 am »

I can drive again, have new MOT.  Grin

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« Reply #85 on: May 15, 2015, 10:48:20 am »

Well done see you soon then ....
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« Reply #86 on: October 01, 2015, 10:40:29 am »

Ok, remember this


I have to say I think it works, have done a lot of driving this summer, we had a 'hot' summer for the Netherlands a lot of days with 25 dgr Celsius temps.
In city driving the oil temps just stay at around 80 dgr celc. even on some really hot days..
Did a few long trips in warm temps with 3 hours plus of highway driving (120km/h with long gearbox) and the oil temp never exceeds 100 dgr celc.

So my guess it gives you a 5 - 10 dgr celc. reduction in oil temps. (ok the 10 is maybe a little to high but it is between 5 and 10 somewhere)

The fun part is I don t have any sound deafening in my car and you can really hear it sucking in air, which I didn t hear before  Smiley.

Regards Edgar

Just a reminder, I don t have a extra oil cooler just a type 4 cooler in the shroud
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« Reply #87 on: October 05, 2015, 10:50:28 am »

Ok,

I think one of the last nice days off the year to take it for a drive.





Now back in the garage, maybe for some winter updates
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« Reply #88 on: October 05, 2015, 14:49:09 pm »

Ok,

I think one of the last nice days off the year to take it for a drive.





Now back in the garage, maybe for some winter updates

Looks really good Eddie Cool

Winter upgrades? Type 1?   Grin

cheers Richie
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« Reply #89 on: October 05, 2015, 17:05:28 pm »

Ok,

Now back in the garage, maybe for some winter updates

I am waiting to see the Deutz cylinders finished!!   Cool
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