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Lt Charbon
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Another 67 ... The Standard-But-Deluxe
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October 26, 2009, 20:21:46 pm »
Hi everyone,
It's been a long time since I've been watching your awesome cars and I decided to show you my first VW project.
The plan is to make a nice cal-look from a 67 Belgian beetle with the right parts at the right place and many horses to bring me from a strip to another by the road.
Here are few pictures from the base, the beginning of the restoration and what it should look like for season 2010.
More pictures and info soon.
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Last Edit: August 26, 2012, 16:27:14 pm by Lt Charbon
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speedwell
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Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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Reply #1 on:
October 26, 2009, 20:26:02 pm »
laurent are you the old "standard beauty" name here on the lounge
by the way welcome
fabs
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Lt Charbon
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Posts: 80
Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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October 26, 2009, 22:48:28 pm »
Yes, that's me...
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vwcab
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peter
Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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October 26, 2009, 23:32:22 pm »
Nice lookin' project dude,keep us updated.
But way the change of nickname?
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Lt Charbon
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Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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October 27, 2009, 13:07:43 pm »
Never posted before with this nickname and didn't like it anymore...
Let's talk about the base...
Here are pictures of the advertising sheet that VW Belgium (Dieteren s.a.) distributed at dealers to promote the 67 1200 Beetle.
My beetle is a 1200 Deluxe made in Belgium (Forest) , as you can see, it has some specific parts and it looks more like a standard bug than a Deluxe but they name it like that.
So for the best observer, you can see the following specifications :
Painted turn signals
No chrome around the windows
Standard steering wheel
Small ceiling Upholstery
No bumper guards
6V engine
No chrome on dashboard
Door latch and window lifter Painted in grey
Small carpet kit
Just one klaxon hole in the left fender
Grey/Red fender Beadings
...
I bought it in 2006 from my local VW dealer who kept it for his use, but after several attempt (5 at least...) he decided to sell the beauty.
Being patient pays sometimes.
Next step, pan specs...
Have a nice day.
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Last Edit: October 28, 2009, 15:40:42 pm by Lt Charbon
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Turtle001
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Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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October 27, 2009, 16:46:06 pm »
1.500 euro for a standard beetle in 67 -- aahhhhhhh
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lawrence
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Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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October 28, 2009, 00:38:19 am »
Looks like a good basis for cal-look. How uncommon are these 1200 '67s.
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nicolas
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Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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October 28, 2009, 19:54:46 pm »
and with my 67 fastback i pay the most taxes...
never noticed the small doorpulls. those 1200 standards are just great, but they should have left the trim off from the factory.
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Mach1
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Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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October 31, 2009, 09:22:30 am »
Hi Lt
I was just wondering when you would tell the story of your project on the lounge ... Now it began ! Good!
The proof that some guys from "Liège-Luttich-Luik" are more active than others could think
So... you talked about pan specifications !?!
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Lids
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Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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October 31, 2009, 10:27:48 am »
our mate had a 67 standard, he then went and installed fat trim on it including the dash.
It was mentioned in summer edition of volksworld where the now current owner was complaining about the aftermarket sunroof that was installed. But he thought it was acceptable to fit a roof rack!!!!
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Lt Charbon
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Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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October 31, 2009, 16:38:55 pm »
I wanted that kind of beetle because it's a one year only model (with many specific parts), pretty uncommon in standard look and it was build in my country. 67 VW are also good bases used many times to make cal look VW.
Why cal-look ? Because I really like being a giant killer !!
Now, the pan...
As it is "Cal-look lounge" and not "Vintage lounge", let see how to upgrade this beauty... Here are the part list choosed to manage the power :
2 inches narrowed front beam (adjustable)
CSP Front disc brakes
356B Rear drum brakes
Big torsion bar
Original EMPI Camber Compensator
Koni 4 shock absorbers + steering
Strengthen transmission shafts
RANCHO Prostreet gearbox (33x8)
CB dropped spindles
145/15 XZX Michelin front tyres
205/70/15 Eagle GA Goodyear rear tyres
Line lock
Original EMPI 5 spokes wheels
My plan are to use well known, reliable and quality parts, I'd like to keep that beauty for a long long time !
I'd like also to make a car able to turn well, my horizon line won't stop at the end of a quarter mile...
Here are several pictures.
Next : motor specs and inspiration
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Last Edit: October 31, 2009, 16:41:46 pm by Lt Charbon
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vwcab
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peter
Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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October 31, 2009, 20:19:53 pm »
Let the pics coming dude,nice built-up.
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RedRaf
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Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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October 31, 2009, 23:12:19 pm »
Hey, hey, welcome to the lounge, (either for me as it is my first post
)
Two points I would like to brought out, are :
1/ the respect LT made to keep the body sooo original; no way to tell him to do a US67 version:
"no man I want the body like it came out of the factory in 67.. in Belgium..."
2/the condition of the re-built: a big 1776 (year) old barn in east-south belgium (sorry I hope you didn't wan't to use the pics later in the post
Sorry no picture of the smelling dead horse neither the little veal running around the car, but may be some more "out of the mind " pics to come ater on the presentation...
Anyway one first question;
205/70/15 Eagle GA Goodyear rear tyres
Didn't you had some cool 185/??/15 versestein clasic which looks reely good?
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speedwell
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Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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October 31, 2009, 23:17:56 pm »
hey hey welcome to the lounge raf (x2cab
)..
good to see more liègeois here
fabs
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RedRaf
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Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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October 31, 2009, 23:56:15 pm »
Well ,thanks fabs!
Not posting along beacause I'm still driving a bus -67crewcab- (not really fair to be posted in the lougne ) but I'm reading it for a while because I love that stance...
Anyway, Still waiting to make a ride in da 61 std
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speedwell
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Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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October 31, 2009, 23:58:25 pm »
Quote from: RedRaf on October 31, 2009, 23:56:15 pm
Well ,thanks fabs!
Not posting along beacause I'm still driving a bus -67crewcab- (not really fair to be posted in the lougne ) but I'm reading it for a while because I love that stance...
Anyway, Still waiting to make a ride in da 61 std
when you want buddy when i will fix the new problem with one carb
, but normally it will work soon , the car , run , but sometimes she run on 3 cyl due to the carb problem
fabs
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vwcab
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peter
Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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November 01, 2009, 00:19:48 am »
Quote from: speedwell on October 31, 2009, 23:58:25 pm
Quote from: RedRaf on October 31, 2009, 23:56:15 pm
Well ,thanks fabs!
Not posting along beacause I'm still driving a bus -67crewcab- (not really fair to be posted in the lougne ) but I'm reading it for a while because I love that stance...
Anyway, Still waiting to make a ride in da 61 std
when you want buddy when i will fix the new problem with one carb
, but normally it will work soon , the car , run , but sometimes she run on 3 cyl due to the carb problem
fabs
Hey Fabs,me too,because in this pic,your car was standing still
Peter
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speedwell
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Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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November 01, 2009, 00:31:28 am »
very serious peter
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RedRaf
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Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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November 01, 2009, 01:42:26 am »
xxx
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nicolas
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Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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November 02, 2009, 17:00:18 pm »
cool, just for 'reliability', save the 5 spokes a bit when you will push the pedal... i really, really like the rims, just don't brake them.
nice to see someone from Liège working like Mach1 posted
and even pictures to prove it...
what colour will it be?
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Lt Charbon
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Posts: 80
Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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November 03, 2009, 20:12:38 pm »
Thanks Nicolas. I keep the original colour : Fontana grey (L595). Don't worry for the wheels, I'll take care of them...
Raf, for the tyres, I changed my mind after seing this kind of rubber on another nice car (more rake, beautifull stance...).
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Mach1
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Posts: 39
Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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November 07, 2009, 16:40:53 pm »
Here are a few other period ads.
At that time, the commonly named "Standard" beetle was called "De luxe"... Belgium is a crazy country!
US had only 1500 beetles in 1967, hadn't it?
So what are the differences between US and Euro '67?
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Lt Charbon
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Posts: 80
Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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November 07, 2009, 22:20:54 pm »
Thanks Mach for these nice docs, 67 are so particular.
So for the motor, I decided to make a powerplant with at least 150 HP and a certain amount of torque in order to have a car that is able to run smooth at low RPM and also push hard once passed the 4000 RPM. In a word, a nice 2,3l HotStreet motor. That's why I choose the following pieces with the help of a well known Belgian motorist :
82mm crankshaft VW journal
12V 200mm lighter flywheel
Autolinea case 94X86, reinforced CYL N°3
Straightcut camgear
WEBCAM 86B T1 camshaft
Rockers 1.4/1
CB ULTRA MAG cyl. head 42x37.5 94mm
KENNEDY clutch 200mm 2100 lb
Daikin clutch disk
GB damper pulley power size
3.3 L GB oil sump
GB double valve springs
GB Oil pump
GB full flow kit
5,5 empi rods
Of course, Weber 48 IDA's
Type4 oil cooler
Round doghouse fanshroud
912 12V generator
Merged A1 Muffler 1 5/8" + MEGAFLOW
GB breather box
Scat short inverted manifolds
Bosch 010 distributor + original Bosch blue coil
Compression ratio should be 9.5
I'll also try to make the motor look like the first 48 IDA equipped cal look motor. That's why I'll put a small generator, inverted short manifolds, GB linkage and 010 distributor.
More pics soon.
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vwcab
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peter
Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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November 07, 2009, 23:31:16 pm »
That's gonne be a nice "Belgian-looker"
with a nice engine-combo.
Like to see it finished.
(who is that well known Belgian motorist?)
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Lt Charbon
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Posts: 80
Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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November 07, 2009, 23:47:18 pm »
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Lt Charbon
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Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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November 14, 2009, 19:59:27 pm »
Now, let's have a look at the resto of the pan.
In order to have a nice car, and as I'm not a confirmed welder, I decided to make the resto of the pan by myself while the shell was welded and painted by professionals.
As you can see, the nose and the corners were rotten, I picked the clean corner on another bend pan and replaced the nose with a new sheet of metal. I also painted it by myself. All that works with the help of my friend Mach1, Redraf and snowball.
In order to protect the pan from the rust, I made it "metalized" (métalisé en français, sorry). In fact we projected on the sand blasted pan a thin layer of melted zinc to prevent oxydation. Then we painted it with 1 layer of washprimer, 2 layers of grey primer and 2 layers of black paint. I hope not to restore it again for a long time...
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Lt Charbon
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Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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November 14, 2009, 20:01:57 pm »
More pictures...
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Mach1
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Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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November 19, 2009, 09:12:45 am »
Even the inside of the nose has been sandblasted... It was just about rust extermination.
The 1200 "standard but Deluxe" is nice in original condition.
pic from
http://das.skynetblogs.be/
Nice too when it's a little bit modified.
Photoshop found on
http://lozerifornia.skynetblogs.be/
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Wout
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Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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November 21, 2009, 19:09:30 pm »
Very cool pictune
Good luck with the project!
gr
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Lt Charbon
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Re: Another 67 soon registered for The Belgian Traffic Light Championship
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November 21, 2009, 23:23:23 pm »
Thanks Mach, thanks Wout... Love that pictune too.
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