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« on: October 03, 2010, 00:48:42 am »

An interesting project....

http://www.pauter.com/Ghia.htm
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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2010, 01:27:01 am »

My Dad and brother ( Sum Fun and Radical Rod cars) used Pauter parts for years along with Gene Brown (Strip Teaser Ghia) when they were building their engines together in the eighties. Pauter parts are top notch as are the people.
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2010, 01:32:33 am »

GREAT engine. Thanks for sharing, Deano.
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« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2010, 02:37:55 am »

I remember stumbling across that a while back - very interesting  Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2010, 02:54:22 am »

Wicked build for sure.  I bet it shut up a few nay-sayers.  IIRC, majority of those engine parts were on some record setting dragster prior to being reconfigured for street use.  Not sure if it was sand drags or the quarter mile strip.  In any case, the last I read, the engine is currently running a CB Performance EFI kit. 
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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2010, 05:29:01 am »

I love it! Another testament to the fact that big motors can run and be driven in the street if engineered for such.  Don Pauters stuff has always worked. A good friend of mine still has one of his REV-TRUE 73mm flanged VW cranks with 5.7 chevy rods and 90mm NPRS in his 57 oval.  The motor is 38 years old and still running!

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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2010, 06:33:47 am »



      LOL !!!

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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2010, 06:42:03 am »

I wonder how many HP we are looking at here...
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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2010, 07:17:24 am »

I wonder how many HP we are looking at here...

I think Don told me once 330 to 350Hp --

I've got one of Don's 90mm cranks from 86-87 and it is going into my current build
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« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2010, 15:34:48 pm »

I wonder how many HP we are looking at here...

I think Don told me once 330 to 350Hp --


That's quite an achievement! I wonder what has been done to those 48's to make them flow that much?
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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2010, 16:20:04 pm »

The ducting inside of that fan shroud looks well thought out. 
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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2010, 04:49:11 am »

I wonder how many HP we are looking at here...

I think Don told me once 330 to 350Hp --


That's quite an achievement! I wonder what has been done to those 48's to make them flow that much?

they're throttle bodies , not carbs ..

i have a pricelist for building one of these motors ... GULP !!!  Shocked
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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2010, 08:02:54 am »

I wonder how many HP we are looking at here...

I think Don told me once 330 to 350Hp --


That's quite an achievement! I wonder what has been done to those 48's to make them flow that much?

they're throttle bodies , not carbs ..


Yes, it says so in the article...
But do they flow more just because they have been converted to throttle bodies?
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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2010, 08:19:05 am »

I wonder how many HP we are looking at here...

I think Don told me once 330 to 350Hp --


That's quite an achievement! I wonder what has been done to those 48's to make them flow that much?

they're throttle bodies , not carbs ..


Yes, it says so in the article...
But do they flow more just because they have been converted to throttle bodies?

Probably not but it gives them control.
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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2010, 08:39:26 am »

JS, you don't need any of that stuff that's obstructing the airflow when you are using them as throttle body's. Like the tube in the center and the venturies and the rest of the stuff.

And remember that "big lungs" (3liter +) on the engine can suck thru a straw for a long time... therefore "small carbs" works even on huge engines.
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« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2010, 08:57:30 am »

I believe Don has had the beast for some time now and its streetability is awe inspiring, considering the components used........ imagine the torque, man what a rush that would be especially in a Ghia where the sitting position is a lot lower than a beetle.
Don, you a re a champ and a very clever engineer to boot, I still have one of the old 69mm C/W wedgemated cranks, been in a race car now going in a streeter.

Would love a 3L T4 in the oval.

JHU, very true IMO, a large engine just becomes a pig to drive on the street with too big an intake body, key is to create velocity @ part throttle and have the ability to really breathe @ WOT which would be easy enough with unrestricted 48mm throttle bodies, engine like Don's would be awesome to drive.
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« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2010, 10:42:01 am »

JS, you don't need any of that stuff that's obstructing the airflow when you are using them as throttle body's. Like the tube in the center and the venturies and the rest of the stuff.

Indeed. That's why it would be interesting to know what has been done to them. Are they still 48mm or enlarged? Do they have venturies or does the venturie only exist to create the pressure difference needed to suck fuel trough the jets?
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« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2010, 11:26:16 am »

Do they have venturies or does the venturie only exist to create the pressure difference needed to suck fuel trough the jets?

That's right
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« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2010, 14:37:25 pm »

I pretty sure they are true 48's without the very restrictive venturi's in them
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