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dannyboy
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« Reply #180 on: July 15, 2012, 22:26:52 pm »

Didnt we pay for them already?  Shocked
lol yes i picked em up from dragday for you  do you want me to drop em off at matts
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« Reply #181 on: July 16, 2012, 08:49:53 am »

Didnt we pay for them already?  Shocked
lol yes i picked em up from dragday for you  do you want me to drop em off at matts

Pete is proberly better if you can

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« Reply #182 on: July 16, 2012, 08:50:53 am »

Nice car Smiley
Covert it to IRS or run swingaxle?

IRS,I have seen you other post Angry I am guessing someone crashed

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« Reply #183 on: July 16, 2012, 08:54:19 am »

Nice car Smiley
Covert it to IRS or run swingaxle?

IRS,I have seen you other post Angry I am guessing someone crashed

cheers richie

Yes, it`s very sad that Leif rolled with his car this weekend Cry . I think we need to highlight the issue..
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« Reply #184 on: July 16, 2012, 09:23:57 am »

Nice car Smiley
Covert it to IRS or run swingaxle?

IRS,I have seen you other post Angry I am guessing someone crashed

cheers richie
Angry Sad  Thats sh3t,hope he is ok?

Richie

Yes, it`s very sad that Leif rolled with his car this weekend Cry . I think we need to highlight the issue..
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« Reply #185 on: July 16, 2012, 09:34:05 am »

Nice car Smiley
Covert it to IRS or run swingaxle?

IRS,I have seen you other post Angry I am guessing someone crashed

cheers richie
Angry Sad  Thats sh3t,hope he is ok?

Richie

Yes, it`s very sad that Leif rolled with his car this weekend Cry . I think we need to highlight the issue..

Yes, he is ok
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« Reply #186 on: July 16, 2012, 10:49:15 am »


Changing the steering to where it belongs will cost some time and money Grin

Paul.
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« Reply #187 on: July 16, 2012, 10:55:22 am »

When my car is ready, I will drive it with the 2.0ltr type 4 I have laying around (+/-120HP N/A)
I want to add a bottle to it, so all the info is welcome. Do I have to run extra fuellines etc.?
I am still in the building face so if I have to change things (run extra lines and so, now is the time to do it.

Cheers Paul.
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« Reply #188 on: July 16, 2012, 11:00:03 am »

When my car is ready, I will drive it with the 2.0ltr type 4 I have laying around (+/-120HP N/A)
I want to add a bottle to it, so all the info is welcome. Do I have to run extra fuellines etc.?
I am still in the building face so if I have to change things (run extra lines and so, now is the time to do it.

Cheers Paul.

I ran a -8 feed and -6 return as needed for the EFI,then a simple T to take off the required fuel for the nitrous system in the engine bay,but as I wrote earlier it was on the limit of fuel supply,but more to do with the pump used than enything else,if building a car from scratch i would always fit 2 fuel lines,you never know when you will want to upgrade later,with a single line carbed ststem I think you want to add another fuel system for the nitrous anyway so yes fit 2 lines at least

cheers richie 
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« Reply #189 on: July 16, 2012, 12:51:10 pm »


Been talking to a nitrous company about what is best for this as its been 10 years since I last was up to date with the latest and greatest gizmos and things have moved on since then
and no one does a aircooled vw kit that I know of,last time I kind of put it together myself



Would be cool if you, after making this project a success, put together a nitrous kit for the vw engine which is "bolt-on" and made it available to buy Smiley
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« Reply #190 on: July 16, 2012, 14:22:13 pm »


Been talking to a nitrous company about what is best for this as its been 10 years since I last was up to date with the latest and greatest gizmos and things have moved on since then
and no one does a aircooled vw kit that I know of,last time I kind of put it together myself



Would be cool if you, after making this project a success, put together a nitrous kit for the vw engine which is "bolt-on" and made it available to buy Smiley

Oyvind,

I am talking to the nitrous kit manufacturer I used before to do exactly that Smiley,we are figuring out any differences for carbs or efi and with or without a fan shroud,anything else you can think of that we should take into account?

cheers richie
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« Reply #191 on: July 16, 2012, 21:25:53 pm »

When my car is ready, I will drive it with the 2.0ltr type 4 I have laying around (+/-120HP N/A)
I want to add a bottle to it, so all the info is welcome. Do I have to run extra fuellines etc.?
I am still in the building face so if I have to change things (run extra lines and so, now is the time to do it.

Cheers Paul.

I ran a -8 feed and -6 return as needed for the EFI,then a simple T to take off the required fuel for the nitrous system in the engine bay,but as I wrote earlier it was on the limit of fuel supply,but more to do with the pump used than enything else,if building a car from scratch i would always fit 2 fuel lines,you never know when you will want to upgrade later,with a single line carbed ststem I think you want to add another fuel system for the nitrous anyway so yes fit 2 lines at least

cheers richie  


Hi Richie,

The future engine will be EFI so I already installed 2 -8 lines (so I"m good for the NOS on the temp. engine). Please keep us updated on the beetle NOS kit.

Cheers Paul.
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« Reply #192 on: July 16, 2012, 21:38:20 pm »

What a great thead Smiley

i shall keep an eye on this as 10's are what im hoping for in my car Smiley
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« Reply #193 on: July 16, 2012, 21:39:17 pm »


Been talking to a nitrous company about what is best for this as its been 10 years since I last was up to date with the latest and greatest gizmos and things have moved on since then
and no one does a aircooled vw kit that I know of,last time I kind of put it together myself



Would be cool if you, after making this project a success, put together a nitrous kit for the vw engine which is "bolt-on" and made it available to buy Smiley

Oyvind,

I am talking to the nitrous kit manufacturer I used before to do exactly that Smiley,we are figuring out any differences for carbs or efi and with or without a fan shroud,anything else you can think of that we should take into account?

cheers richie

Ahh, nice! I think you have a good number of alternatives to start with there Smiley
If you make it complete with all hoses and fittings too, you will make it really easy for the buyer. Can not wait to see what price range this kit ends up in
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« Reply #194 on: July 16, 2012, 21:59:25 pm »

Todays parts addition

Well i have been offered such a good deal on a NOS nitrous kit i cant refuse Smiley I havent used one before so will be interesting to see how it compares to the "other manufacturer" who are keen to help and create a VW specific kit so I guess i will have to try both to see which does what Cool
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« Reply #195 on: July 16, 2012, 22:00:37 pm »

When my car is ready, I will drive it with the 2.0ltr type 4 I have laying around (+/-120HP N/A)
I want to add a bottle to it, so all the info is welcome. Do I have to run extra fuellines etc.?
I am still in the building face so if I have to change things (run extra lines and so, now is the time to do it.

Cheers Paul.

I ran a -8 feed and -6 return as needed for the EFI,then a simple T to take off the required fuel for the nitrous system in the engine bay,but as I wrote earlier it was on the limit of fuel supply,but more to do with the pump used than enything else,if building a car from scratch i would always fit 2 fuel lines,you never know when you will want to upgrade later,with a single line carbed ststem I think you want to add another fuel system for the nitrous anyway so yes fit 2 lines at least

cheers richie  


Hi Richie,

The future engine will be EFI so I already installed 2 -8 lines (so I"m good for the NOS on the temp. engine). Please keep us updated on the beetle NOS kit.

Cheers Paul.
-8 will supply plenty enough fuel for your requirements Smiley
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« Reply #196 on: July 17, 2012, 15:30:27 pm »

-8 will supply plenty enough fuel for your requirements Smiley

Thanks, and thanks for the new wings that Michael will collect next week Wink

Paul.
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« Reply #197 on: July 17, 2012, 20:59:51 pm »

Not much happened today,I did get some time so made a weld in gearbox intermidiate mount,but thats all,still trying to figure out what wheels and seats to use,I think I have all the important stuff figured out in my head now Smiley

cheers richie
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« Reply #198 on: July 17, 2012, 21:11:17 pm »

-8 will supply plenty enough fuel for your requirements Smiley

Thanks, and thanks for the new wings that Michael will collect next week Wink

Paul.

Your welcome,and no problem,just finish the car now without changing your mind at all Wink
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« Reply #199 on: July 17, 2012, 22:15:28 pm »

just finish the car now without changing your mind at all Wink

That's impossible, stop with these kind of threads and I will finish sooner Grin

Paul.
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« Reply #200 on: July 17, 2012, 22:25:30 pm »

Not much happened today,I did get some time so made a weld in gearbox intermidiate mount,but thats all,still trying to figure out what wheels and seats to use,I think I have all the important stuff figured out in my head now Smiley

cheers richie

Race-weight ERCO's? 6"?
As light seats as possible with a lot of support!  Grin
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« Reply #201 on: July 17, 2012, 22:33:44 pm »

Not much happened today,I did get some time so made a weld in gearbox intermidiate mount,but thats all,still trying to figure out what wheels and seats to use,I think I have all the important stuff figured out in my head now Smiley

cheers richie

Race-weight ERCO's? 6"?
As light seats as possible with a lot of support!  Grin
A kirkey without padding Wink

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« Reply #202 on: July 18, 2012, 08:16:04 am »

Not much happened today,I did get some time so made a weld in gearbox intermidiate mount,but thats all,still trying to figure out what wheels and seats to use,I think I have all the important stuff figured out in my head now Smiley

cheers richie

Race-weight ERCO's? 6"?
As light seats as possible with a lot of support!  Grin

That is my dilema,as the car is 4 stud and Ercos are not so easily available in 4 stud,particulaly used Wink I need to look for other options,or maybe go to 5x130 instead as there are lots of cheaper wheels available if I ignore the looks,as I will proberly need new discs and drums anyway as they are so corroded buying them in porsche pattern isnt really anymore expensive

cheers richie
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« Reply #203 on: July 18, 2012, 08:18:20 am »

Not much happened today,I did get some time so made a weld in gearbox intermidiate mount,but thats all,still trying to figure out what wheels and seats to use,I think I have all the important stuff figured out in my head now Smiley

cheers richie

Race-weight ERCO's? 6"?
As light seats as possible with a lot of support!  Grin
A kirkey without padding Wink

Michael

Proberly that or the Jaz equiverlent,but it will need some padding for the road Shocked but I am also considering the fiberglass low back buckets and then add a headrest/support to cage
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« Reply #204 on: July 18, 2012, 08:33:27 am »

There is a jazz poly seat  on lvzi for 60 quid
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« Reply #205 on: July 18, 2012, 09:40:46 am »

I am also considering the fiberglass low back buckets and then add a headrest/support to cage

That is the scariest thing I see, a head rest integrated to the seat will always follow the seat/your body in an accident. A cage headrest will not... it will stay stationary while you move about.  I know seats aren't supposed to come loose... but safety is about IF.
Just a personal observation.
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« Reply #206 on: July 18, 2012, 10:13:01 am »

I am also considering the fiberglass low back buckets and then add a headrest/support to cage

That is the scariest thing I see, a head rest integrated to the seat will always follow the seat/your body in an accident. A cage headrest will not... it will stay stationary while you move about.  I know seats aren't supposed to come loose... but safety is about IF.
Just a personal observation.

That is a good point Jon,and something I hadnt considered,I had planned a steel backbone to the fiber seat but not considered the "what if"  Shocked   

Highback it is then Smiley


Danny I will take a look,not so keen on the plastic seats as I worry they could tear where they are bolted through in an accident

 
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« Reply #207 on: July 18, 2012, 10:33:54 am »

Not much happened today,I did get some time so made a weld in gearbox intermidiate mount,but thats all,still trying to figure out what wheels and seats to use,I think I have all the important stuff figured out in my head now Smiley

cheers richie

Race-weight ERCO's? 6"?
As light seats as possible with a lot of support!  Grin

That is my dilema,as the car is 4 stud and Ercos are not so easily available in 4 stud,particulaly used Wink I need to look for other options,or maybe go to 5x130 instead as there are lots of cheaper wheels available if I ignore the looks,as I will proberly need new discs and drums anyway as they are so corroded buying them in porsche pattern isnt really anymore expensive

cheers richie

Richie, seemed to miss you guys at Dragstalgia ? Anyway catch up again somewhere huh  Wink Hoping to run at Shakey on Sunday with Danny. ClubdayRWYB sessions.
Bythe way I am sure I have seen some 4 stud ercos's for sale recently, maybe on here or Vzi or JG54 forum ? Happy hunting eh  Grin
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« Reply #208 on: July 18, 2012, 11:15:49 am »

Richie, seemed to miss you guys at Dragstalgia ? Anyway catch up again somewhere huh  Wink Hoping to run at Shakey on Sunday with Danny. ClubdayRWYB sessions.
Bythe way I am sure I have seen some 4 stud ercos's for sale recently, maybe on here or Vzi or JG54 forum ? Happy hunting eh  Grin
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We saw you make a pass but didnt see where you we all parked,they wouldnt let us round with the car and wasnt going to carry the scales all the way round so just watched from the stands.

2 thoughts from what I saw of your pass

less burnout needed and let the linelock off while still doing the burnout and roll out the water that way,it looked like you dragged some water out with you

Good luck on sunday

If you see the add for those wheels let me know please?

cheers richie 
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« Reply #209 on: July 18, 2012, 11:34:40 am »

the 4 stud wheels are in this ad,link to thesamba.
just the two rear ones in 6".

henk!!!

http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,18590.0.html
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