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« Reply #750 on: September 20, 2015, 16:45:55 pm »

proper quick good work  Cool
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« Reply #751 on: September 20, 2015, 19:41:41 pm »

Well done this weekend Richie.
Now go enjoy yourself in the sun  Wink
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« Reply #752 on: September 20, 2015, 20:19:34 pm »

10.423 - 124.5 mph. Job well done Richie and Co!

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Was a good way to finish the weekend, nice straight pass, no wheelie just straight down the track, thinking I need to change the title off the thread to a 9 maybe?  Cheesy


Some video and pictures coming soon



Well done this weekend Richie.
Now go enjoy yourself in the sun  Wink


Spent half the journey home thinking about a nitrous engine for old cab now Shocked Grin, looking forward to driving it again this week coming  Cool

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« Reply #753 on: September 20, 2015, 20:54:26 pm »

Dang! thats moving. 1.45 60ft is very impressive!!

Congrats! You surpassed your goal by a landslide  Cheesy
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« Reply #754 on: September 20, 2015, 21:14:41 pm »

Mmmm what next ?

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« Reply #755 on: September 20, 2015, 22:26:27 pm »

mph at the 1/8 is blinding   Cool 
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« Reply #756 on: September 21, 2015, 01:08:12 am »

Mmmm what next ?

Based on what the guy next to you ran, it looks like you need a Matty Box.  Cheesy
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« Reply #757 on: September 21, 2015, 01:44:39 am »

Wow, well under target. How much bottle on that pass?

Makes me wonder how little engine you could build to hit 10's, with the same shot of gas. 2165? 2054? 1915??
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« Reply #758 on: September 21, 2015, 08:13:14 am »



Spent half the journey home thinking about a nitrous engine for old cab now Shocked Grin, looking forward to driving it again this week coming  Cool

cheers Richie

Bet you are. Got a taste for the real street cars again. Simpler times  Wink
Is there's much difference in weight if you compare everything to go with the turbo setup vs the Nos setup incl full bottle?
I know you've already taken the intercooler etc out.
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« Reply #759 on: September 21, 2015, 08:21:34 am »

Mmmm what next ?

Based on what the guy next to you ran, it looks like you need a Matty Box.  Cheesy

Not sure what that is? but car in other lane is a model A sedan delivery with a big block mopar so he runs it to about 1000ft then brakes hard, not the way I would do it Wink

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« Reply #760 on: September 21, 2015, 08:23:41 am »

Wow, well under target. How much bottle on that pass?

Makes me wonder how little engine you could build to hit 10's, with the same shot of gas. 2165? 2054? 1915??

1915 no problem at all  Wink , think the bore size on a 1776 would restrict it to much, not enough room for decent ex valve to get it out

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« Reply #761 on: September 21, 2015, 08:26:27 am »



Spent half the journey home thinking about a nitrous engine for old cab now Shocked Grin, looking forward to driving it again this week coming  Cool

cheers Richie

Bet you are. Got a taste for the real street cars again. Simpler times  Wink
Is there's much difference in weight if you compare everything to go with the turbo setup vs the Nos setup incl full bottle?
I know you've already taken the intercooler etc out.

Cab is probably 100lbs more at moment, will see at vegas when it goes over the scales, ally case & bus box doesn't help either

cheers Richie   
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« Reply #762 on: September 21, 2015, 08:31:13 am »

Great fun watching it run  Grin
You may need to rename this thread soon " how much money to run 9's in a street car "  Grin
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« Reply #763 on: September 21, 2015, 08:42:43 am »

Had to add £15 to the total this weekend to get the cage cert done Shocked  Cheesy  


and a couple of random pics I took


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« Reply #764 on: September 21, 2015, 08:46:07 am »

I really had to laugh when the speakers in the tower where talking about you Richie. Mr Break Out. They did not realize that you had two cars and thought you had registered for the 10.90 class with your cab. Typical Mr Webb they said  Grin  Grin  Grin
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« Reply #765 on: September 21, 2015, 08:53:17 am »

I really had to laugh when the speakers in the tower where talking about you Richie. Mr Break Out. They did not realize that you had two cars and thought you had registered for the 10.90 class with your cab. Typical Mr Webb they said  Grin  Grin  Grin

That's one thing I really miss, listening to the commentators is always good & amusing Grin but I never get to here it normally when I run the car unless some gets caught on background in video
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« Reply #766 on: September 21, 2015, 08:54:07 am »

Great fun watching it run  Grin
You may need to rename this thread soon " how much money to run 9's in a street car "  Grin


Maybe super gas at easter then  Wink
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« Reply #767 on: September 21, 2015, 08:57:05 am »

Dang! thats moving. 1.45 60ft is very impressive!!

Congrats! You surpassed your goal by a landslide  Cheesy

Thanks Walter, and its just a simple cable clutch with normal kennedy cover and disc, think if I wanted to convert it to hydraulic it could go into 1.30s 60ft with some work Shocked I still only got 10 passes on car so still learning what it needs Smiley


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« Reply #768 on: September 21, 2015, 16:36:49 pm »

Video of 10.42 pass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0-VKLRqT6Y&feature=em-share_video_user
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« Reply #769 on: September 21, 2015, 17:18:47 pm »

Nice run. I missed the afternoon ones as we went out for lunch. And before you say it, no it wasn't a picnic  Tongue  Cheesy
The commentary every time you came on was good though the whole weekend. Especially when you got to No 1 qualifier on the second run.
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« Reply #770 on: September 21, 2015, 17:21:53 pm »

And the not so perfect launch pass before  Shocked
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« Reply #771 on: September 21, 2015, 18:57:20 pm »

Richie, how much nitrous, how much retard and how much fuel did you add? And do you launch on the 2 step with full throttle and nitrous?

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« Reply #772 on: September 21, 2015, 19:19:28 pm »

And the not so perfect launch pass before  Shocked

Got the sequence now thanks to blackett photography and thought it might show just how wild it was Shocked I enjoyed seeing it so hopefully some of you will as well  Smiley
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« Reply #773 on: September 21, 2015, 19:44:18 pm »

Richie, how much nitrous, how much retard and how much fuel did you add? And do you launch on the 2 step with full throttle and nitrous?

Thanks,
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Not sure, jetted for about 95-100 but afr was low 10s so to rich to make that power

4 degrees retard, but as I said to someone in a PM that asked, and I am sure you know, this is really affected by how much total you have to begin with

Its a wet kit so jetted to suit extra fuel needed

Launch on 2 step, nitrous off

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« Reply #774 on: September 21, 2015, 20:00:30 pm »

Its the gas that makes the power, not the nitrous. Or at least that is what I thought. Looking at the nitrous cars racing at Drag Week most of them smoked like old diesels going down the strip.

So you use a wet system instead of telling your DTA to add extra fuel using on of the analoge inputs? Interesting.

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« Reply #775 on: September 21, 2015, 20:04:33 pm »

Its the gas that makes the power, not the nitrous. Or at least that is what I thought. Looking at the nitrous cars racing at Drag Week most of them smoked like old diesels going down the strip.

So you use a wet system instead of telling your DTA to add extra fuel using on of the analoge inputs? Interesting.

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Yes you are correct, but still needs to be decent afr or not enough oxygen to burn all the fuel, system I got was wet, that's what I used before and knew so stuck with it, might use the dta for the 2 stage next year Wink

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« Reply #776 on: September 22, 2015, 12:36:48 pm »

That's one thing I really miss, listening to the commentators is always good & amusing Grin but I never get to here it normally when I run the car unless some gets caught on background in video

It pretty much always starts " and there is Richie Webb in the bonkers beetle "  Grin Cool Grin
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« Reply #777 on: September 22, 2015, 17:58:18 pm »

I watched that wheelie on the webcam and had my heart in mouth. Shocked The perspective from the cam made it look properly bonkers!
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« Reply #778 on: September 22, 2015, 19:11:00 pm »

I watched that wheelie on the webcam and had my heart in mouth. Shocked The perspective from the cam made it look properly bonkers!

 Cheesy  And was just thinking about grabbing 2nd gear and getting on with it Wink
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« Reply #779 on: September 22, 2015, 21:51:49 pm »

Dang! thats moving. 1.45 60ft is very impressive!!

Congrats! You surpassed your goal by a landslide  Cheesy

Thanks Walter, and its just a simple cable clutch with normal kennedy cover and disc, think if I wanted to convert it to hydraulic it could go into 1.30s 60ft with some work Shocked I still only got 10 passes on car so still learning what it needs Smiley


cheers Richie

On the subject of hydraulic clutch would you use a management system with an adjustable bypass valve for 1st? Reason I'm asking is I'm looking for that valve but can only find ones rated to 250bar.   Can you recommend anywhere please?
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