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« on: April 04, 2006, 23:16:33 pm »

What do you think about superbeetles and other late models as cal-lookers?
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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2006, 08:34:55 am »

In my opinion, cal-look is pretty much a style with a certain set of "rules" created by the cal-look-pioneers back in the days when there were no super beetles. Of course these rules can be applied to any beetle, or any car for that matter, but would it then be a true cal-looker? If you got a late model, or a super beetle, there are other styles that match those cars much better than cal-look.
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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2006, 09:20:31 am »

I agree.

Even though there was the possibilty to treat a 1302 the same way like the older bugs back in the 1970s (Empi GTV kits) and generate something related to Cal Look
(BTW. What would be the "definition" for a car equipped with all that Empi GTV stuff Huh).
But a "long nose" bug´s proportions somehow don´t match the Cal Look related typical visual appearance.
Furthermore, a superbeetle back in the 1970s was a new car which then couldn´t be afforded by most of the people who wanted to build a quick cal look car. The pre- 1965 bugs where used cars being relatively cheap-so most of the Cal Lookers where pre-1965 cars.
Coming to performance: A superbeetle´s weight is +100 kg compared to a 1200, so you need add-on engine power to gain same performance on street & strip....
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2006, 09:34:41 am »

"BTW. What would be the "definition" for a car equipped with all that Empi GTV stuff"

Hmmm...a wild guess...GTV?  Wink
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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2006, 12:09:51 pm »

 Grin

I know-but is it "Cal Look" Style, "Authentic 1970s" Style, "Custom",...?
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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2006, 13:53:56 pm »


 I think the Old School Cal-Look is suitable for all cars up to 1970. These cars don't have those "ears" for ventilation behind the rear window and still had nice classic colours.
 Super beetles (02's and 03's) look way too 70ies for a Cal-looker, and I think that the indicators in the front bumper and also the Elephant-feet are not done for a Cal-Looker...
 But a 1200 up to '74 would make a nice Cal-Looker though...
 
 I would put the border somewhere between 70&75... ( 02/03's excluded )

 
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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2006, 18:01:48 pm »

I have this 1972 Hot Rod Magazine showing all the cars of the DKP car club back then...black and white and even Gene Berg did fit in the mag......the white Arons car is there and Flemmings oval and type 3:s........So I like the late model cars...they were part of the deal in my way of thinking........One of the best examples are "The Dumper" a Super beetle from back in the day and a lot of inspiration to me!! Late models are cool!!
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« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2006, 22:19:07 pm »

This brown/green -69 looker is my favourite. Big motor, cool wheels and tires and a perfect 70`s paintjob. And of course, dual mufflers. No fat boy muffler
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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2006, 23:42:57 pm »

Holly shit on toast!  Shocked
You like that car?? You must be sick ;-)
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2006, 00:16:32 am »

Even if it is hard to imagine, but late ('68-'72 regular) beetle were a big part of the scene back in the 70s and early 80s. Jim "Sarge" Edmiston had one, Bill Schwimmer had one... I can't say if they used supers as well, but if you have a look in the June 76 issue you will see, that they showed (in the Cal Look section) how to lower a 1302! And how about John Deans 1303 Looker? He was a member of the DKK (Der Kleiner Kampfwagens), a Cal Look Club in the late 70s and early 80s, that started after the demise of DKP II. That car has it all... 135-15s and 185/70s on 5,5s Fuchs, 1776 cc with IDAs, period perfect interieur, single color...

Well, I have to admit.... it would look stange in between our cars...
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2006, 07:58:24 am »

The SuperDumper and John Dean car, is the same car...  and it rocks!

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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2006, 14:57:03 pm »

Even if it is hard to imagine, but late ('68-'72 regular) beetle were a big part of the scene back in the 70s and early 80s. Jim "Sarge" Edmiston had one, Bill Schwimmer had one... I can't say if they used supers as well, but if you have a look in the June 76 issue you will see, that they showed (in the Cal Look section) how to lower a 1302! And how about John Deans 1303 Looker? He was a member of the DKK (Der Kleiner Kampfwagens), a Cal Look Club in the late 70s and early 80s, that started after the demise of DKP II. That car has it all... 135-15s and 185/70s on 5,5s Fuchs, 1776 cc with IDAs, period perfect interieur, single color...

Well, I have to admit.... it would look stange in between our cars...
this 's the car of bill shwimmer when he was in the der kleiner kampfwagens it was  a70's sedan with 48 IDAs  Wink
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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2006, 21:04:05 pm »

The SuperDumper and John Dean car, is the same car...  and it rocks!


this's more details of the car Wink
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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2006, 21:12:46 pm »

another cool cal look on late models
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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2006, 21:14:54 pm »

 Wink stole one from the nose down  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2006, 22:31:50 pm »

Like with everything else it is a matter of taste. I personally don’t like the look of 1302 and 1303 Bugs. However every once in a while there is someone proving the opposite by having good ideas and proving superb workmanship. But beside 1302/03 who could not appreciate something like this….



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« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2006, 22:56:02 pm »

my favourite late model looker has to be Geno Comb's 69 cool or what

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« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2006, 11:17:40 am »

who could not appreciate something like this….


 It's definately nice, but a bit too low for me...
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« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2006, 11:59:02 am »

another nice one-owned by Oli Zinkann, Germany...
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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2006, 09:53:08 am »

The SuperDumper and John Dean car, is the same car...  and it rocks!


same car but different angle
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« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2006, 10:02:11 am »

another old cal look from the der kleiner kampfwagens klub in the 80
the black late models was owned by mark ramirez and he won the bug in best of show ..But which one???
the dkk won the most represented club trophy at the last bug in with over 40cars on display
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« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2006, 10:10:46 am »

nice  Wink
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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2006, 13:54:37 pm »

I always think that real Cal-lookers must be a pré'67 bug.. Not!! Grin  I still like the Late-lookers more and more.
Keith Seume has a nice quote about Late-lookers.. I'll search for that..

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« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2006, 15:35:34 pm »

 Shocked another cool cal look on late models ... riviera wheels was appreciated by the cal looker at that time
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« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2006, 14:28:52 pm »

I like these cars more and more... maybe I will do my 1303 in this style... ?  Grin
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« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2006, 17:46:29 pm »

Late lookers are ok, but they never get close to the style of a pre-64 beetle (67 rock sometimes, though). But forget about those 1302 and 1303, they're awful...
Even if in 19-whenever that famous cal look personality mr.x should have owned a superbeetle. If I feel like having a panoramic windshield in front of me I prefer a Saab 900. Ok that's my opinion.  Smiley
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« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2006, 18:49:20 pm »

another nice one-owned by Oli Zinkann, Germany...


Not a big fan of late cars but the more i look at this one the more i like it. Any more photos of the back of this car also what motor in it.
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« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2006, 20:43:46 pm »

Not a big fan of late cars but the more i look at this one the more i like it. Any more photos of the back of this car also what motor in it.

here we go... nice car!


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« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2006, 21:27:53 pm »

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« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2006, 21:39:30 pm »

Hey Speedwell, I like the blue "MY72VW" a lot. And John Dean's 1303 is really the exception to the rule "Supers are ugly as #¤%"  Grin
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